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Old 04-12-2014, 15:05
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Handing over £48 to a bloke in an estate with no address . I mean anything could be in that small bottle .

Surprised LS even allowed it . I bet if you went into partnership with him he wouldn't allow such a deal with no come back .
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:08
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He had a legitimate website which he usually sold through but they needed the product that day so visited his home. Perhaps he gave them a receipt.
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:15
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He had a legitimate website which he usually sold through but they needed the product that day so visited his home. Perhaps he gave them a receipt.
They didn't . It was done in the open, he could be living anywhere .
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:16
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Well I assume he can be tracked down through his website if it is a legitimate trading business so not a big deal.
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:19
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Well I assume he can be tracked down through his website if it is a legitimate trading business so not a big deal.
Yes it is a big deal, can you be certain that Oud oil is in that bottle ?
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:35
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About as certain as the diamonds being real.
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Old 04-12-2014, 15:53
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legitimate website..lol, there's loads of fake/scamming websites out there. I made this point in another thread, the usual format for this task is they have a customer, they're buying for. So I take it The Savoy would be happy to meet some guy on a council estate to buy some "product"
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:09
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You could say the same about meeting some nerd in a dark basement to buy a diamond. It's easy to smell the oil and look at the colour to determine it's authenticity. It doesnt need a lab test, in the sane way that the diamonds didn't.
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:21
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You could say the same about meeting some nerd in a dark basement to buy a diamond. It's easy to smell the oil and look at the colour to determine it's authenticity. It doesnt need a lab test, in the sane way that the diamonds didn't.
FGS When handing over large sums of money you buy from an established business with a legitimate address , especially when buying something like oil or diamonds .
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:22
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And also maybe he was not comfortable with TV cameras coming in to his house.
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:34
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Handing over £48 to a bloke in an estate with no address . I mean anything could be in that small bottle .

Surprised LS even allowed it . I bet if you went into partnership with him he wouldn't allow such a deal with no come back .
There's no difference in that and buying from a dodgy looking bloke on a market stall who claims he is called Sugar. He can hardly raise the issue can he.

The interesting bit was that they allowed them seemingly to use the internet to find him? Which doesn't fit what we saw elsewhere- as people struggled to find diamond dealers, or the cheaper skeletons, or find the lowest prices available. If they could find an online oud dealer, why didn't anyone find the same skeletons online at half the price?
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:40
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There's no difference in that and buying from a dodgy looking bloke on a market stall who claims he is called Sugar. He can hardly raise the issue can he.

The interesting bit was that they allowed them seemingly to use the internet to find him? Which doesn't fit what we saw elsewhere- as people struggled to find diamond dealers, or the cheaper skeletons, or find the lowest prices available. If they could find an online oud dealer, why didn't anyone find the same skeletons online at half the price?
I assume he was listed in the business directory. Mark/Katie probably phoned a few businesses that looked like they might have the oil and got lucky with this chap. People struggled finding an unmounted diamond as they didn't understand at first that jewelers don't sell them.
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:49
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The diamond task was silly.

A cheap diamond will always be cheaper than an expensive diamond.
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Old 04-12-2014, 16:52
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FGS When handing over large sums of money you buy from an established business with a legitimate address , especially when buying something like oil or diamonds .
£48 is not a large sum of money. People would spend that kind of money in a market where the seller could just pack up his pitch and never return again.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:44
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The diamond task was silly.

A cheap diamond will always be cheaper than an expensive diamond.
Indeed the £50 diamond might have been worth 30, and the other one the right price for its quality. Yoiu can just see his Lordship ranting on some other tasks about them being conned into buying rubbish with his money.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:38
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£48 is not a large sum of money. People would spend that kind of money in a market where the seller could just pack up his pitch and never return again.
Quite.

That bit of the show bothered me a bit. It seemed contrived to give the impression that a tower block equals a dodgy neighbourhood. Mark and Katie made some dumb comments to this effect. I live in a tower block myself, on an estate, and I just think it's prejudice and ignorance.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:10
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Quite.

That bit of the show bothered me a bit. It seemed contrived to give the impression that a tower block equals a dodgy neighbourhood. Mark and Katie made some dumb comments to this effect. I live in a tower block myself, on an estate, and I just think it's prejudice and ignorance.
Lucky they didn't tweet an uncaptioned photo of it or they would definitely have been fired.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:20
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You could say the same about meeting some nerd in a dark basement to buy a diamond. It's easy to smell the oil and look at the colour to determine it's authenticity. It doesnt need a lab test, in the sane way that the diamonds didn't.
Hands up if you know what that oil should smell like...not me, I don't think. And hands up all the Diamond experts on here who can tell if the cut and colour is correct.. not me again, and I will hazard a guess not one person in a hundred or even a thousand can. And didn't the team a few years back struggle to even guess that the oil was in fact oil.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:34
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Hands up if you know what that oil should smell like...not me, I don't think. And hands up all the Diamond experts on here who can tell if the cut and colour is correct.. not me again, and I will hazard a guess not one person in a hundred or even a thousand can. And didn't the team a few years back struggle to even guess that the oil was in fact oil.
Last year in Dubai the teams struggled to work out what an oud was. I believe the page in their task folder just said "oud" with no additional descriptive text?

It turned out to be a stringed instrument, a bit like a sitar from memory. But one of the blind alleys one of the teams pursued was, I think, perfume.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:35
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Hands up if you know what that oil should smell like...not me, I don't think. And hands up all the Diamond experts on here who can tell if the cut and colour is correct.. not me again, and I will hazard a guess not one person in a hundred or even a thousand can. And didn't the team a few years back struggle to even guess that the oil was in fact oil.
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Old 05-12-2014, 15:15
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True it was well dodgy and I'm surprised it was allowed. Could have been a mate of Mark's - wouldn't take a minute to send a text saying bro, go steal a nail varnish from Boots, tell me it's Oud oil, I'll rock up with an incomprehensible mackem and for added kudos don't go below whatever price she suggests. Make me look good. Peace out.
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Old 05-12-2014, 15:19
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agreed Tally, that bloke is probably selling baking soda as cocaine normally, Sugar the muppet didn't even sniff it
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Old 05-12-2014, 17:36
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Hands up if you know what that oil should smell like...not me, I don't think. And hands up all the Diamond experts on here who can tell if the cut and colour is correct.. not me again, and I will hazard a guess not one person in a hundred or even a thousand can. And didn't the team a few years back struggle to even guess that the oil was in fact oil.
They needed to takeJames from posh pawn with them. He would have known a proper diamond. Hes a diamond geezer, innit?
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