That's not strictly true: the Brigadier Cyberman shot at her before the Doctor could - which some believe was a transportation ray thingy, not a zap her dead ray thingy.

I like Missy - I'm looking forward to her returning.

By the way Sara: I enjoy reading your posts

She's not really a one-off character though, she's the latest incarnation of the Master.

I'd bring her back for either a mid-series episode or Christmas 2015 (which could be Moffat's last outing).

You've either missed what I meant or are being rather pedantic (I do think the former)

All I mean is that for a show with as limitless possibility as Doctor Who we shouldn't have to be churning out the same villains year on year, particularly consecutive years. Imagine if the Dalek Emperor had been the main bad guy at the end of Series 2, or Davros at the end of Series 5. It's stale, and it's repetitive a concept...no matter how good the story itself is.

I'm not saying remotely that Missy shouldn't come back, and I loved the character (the actress was a superb choice as well). But I want Capaldi to face more major threats than just the one. In my opinion, I'd prefer to see the character rested and then resurface in a couple of years. In the mean time, give us something wholly different for Series 9 rather than falling into the trap of using the same characters over and over. Do we not remember how tiresome the constant appearances from the Daleks became just a few years ago - even for those who didn't mind them, it was a very clear problem with a lot of people because of their ever diminished returns.

If they must bring her back, have her severly injured and then she can regenrerate back to a man. which is what THE Master should be. I like the character of the Master but hated Missy. Stupid name to begin with never mind the prancing and posing around. As for her Mary Poppins impersonation !

And what makes you think Moffat will continue to write for the show once he steps down? TBH after the abuse he's got from certain sections of the fandom i wouldn't be at all surprised if he walks away for good. I think he'll do that anyway, just as RTD did. Frankly, it makes me laugh when some of the Moffat-must-go brigade want him to write for the show under a new showrunner because they'll "miss his stories". Once he goes, and fans start to complain about the next showrunner, those same people will be clamouring for Moffat to come back.

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I'm glad, Missy was great

The Master is no more a man than the Corsair.



Seriously though, what series 8 did to an extent is show how gender is irrelevant to character/nature. The Master was as mad and crazed and evil as ever and it totally refreshed the dynamic. I can't imagine a male actor adding the same unique spin to the Master/the Master's relationship with the Doctor that Michelle Gomez did. Whilst I agree the character was "silly/over the top to begin with I thought everything from the revelation scene in Dark Water onwards (including the whole of Death in Heaven) was completely in character. Heck at times s/he was more satanic and crazed than any previous incarnation of the Master I'm familiar with.

Yes, please.

So Missy will be back, do you think she will change from Mary Poppins style to Babooshka style?

Missy-Doctor, look away now.
The Doctor-Why?
Missy- Because.
Clara- Listen to Missy, she makes sense, this time.

Personally, I love the Master as a woman.

And I really think the Rani would make a very sexy chap!

Ditto.

Sooner the better.

Who would you cast as the Rani?

I thought Missy was excellent and expect to enjoy Gomez's return in that role. Absolutely no problem with a female Master. The fun Gomez was having that role, really going for it full bore, was evident. It gave the Master a fresh twist by adding a female, sexual layer to that attraction the Master has always had for the Doctor. If anyone's seen "The Imitation Game", I can imagine the childhood relationship between them being somewhat like that shown in that film between the young Turing and his "friend".

It would have to be someone quite austere. The Rani wasn't mad like the Master. She simply lacked morals and didn't care who/how many people got hurt in reaching her goals. She was also very articulate and didn't suffer fools gladly but (I think) was vain enough to want to regenerate into a form that would be considered attractive.

So if they were casting a man to play the Rani, I could imagine someone like Joseph Fiennes or Idris Elba. Someone with genuine gravitas and sex appeal but who can also play it with an underlying sense of threat.

If you mean "man" as in homo sapiens terrae, i.e. Earth humans, you are quite correct. If you mean "male", I disagree.


Again, I disagree. I would say that series 8 showed just the opposite - that gender is very, very relevant, and that trans-gender regeneration is not such a good idea after all - certainly not for the Master. If Missy was an experiment to give some idea how a female Doctor would turn out, the the conclusion should, in my opinion, be "better not."

Cybermen: Ha - I hadn't noticed that!

But, Missy barely got a chance to stretch her legs in Death in Heaven. We've only had her being Masterly for one ep. Usually I'm against serial returns, find them gratuitous, but rarely has a villain's introduction so clearly been an appetiser. Great news, bring on the main course!


You'd be wrong to, she's a woman, now. Try to keep up!

How so, the fact we didn't know she was didn't mean she wasn't in others.

Ho yay! Also that phone call... "Say my name... I like it when you say my name."

Of course she'll return, was there any doubt? The only question was "when".

You're very probably - almost certainly - correct. Regrettably.

I didn't. I don't.


I have.


...which the show needed like a proverbial aperture in the cranial cavity.

I hope this time we actually find out how he/she got off Gallifrey and regenerated. This isn't the eighties, when simply saying ''I'm indestructable'' is a sufficient explanation.

Well, good for you!

Go on, say something nice!

I did. I do.
I don't
I thought it added a layer unique to this take of the Master - which the show does need. Otherwise what's the point in bringin someone back?