I really think that Ben is going to win. Despite all of the hype surrounding Fleur I think that this is going to be one of those dark horse scenarios. I do think that Fleur is brilliant and that she will def be signed by Syco either way but I have a feeling that Ben may well appeal to a higher amount of actual X factor voters. In addition previously when Dermot has called the second safe act through at the semi final they have more often than not been the contestant with the highest number of votes...

I agree. Below average white men have won this show multiple times before :/

Stone me, a thread not devoted to Fleur or Andrea!

It will pretty much be a Joe/Olly situation. I'm not saying Fleur will be as successful as Olly at all (as brilliant as she is), but I'm pretty sure her success will outstrip Ben's. He just ticks all the boxes for a safe, male winner

He could have a very outside chance of winning, but he will have to perform far better than he did last weekend.

It wouldn't surprise me tbh

Are you a Fleur fan?

If he doesn't win, do you reckon Cowell or anyone else will offer him a record deal?

I don't really think Ben is a Dark Horse tbh. He's been pretty much the favourite for the past few weeks it's only because of Fleur's Uptown Funk performance last week that she's currently seems to be the favourite but it wouldn't be a surprise at all if Ben won.

I meant Dark Horse going into the final in terms of all the push towards Fleur in the media this week and the itunes number 1 moreso than Dark Horse throughout the competition. Whilst Ben was a favourite throughout it does seem to be all Fleur in the closing week. I like them both but would like to see Ben win given that Fleur is clearly going to be given the Syco treatment whether she wins or not

I'll go along with this as I'm in the 'Anyone But Fleur' camp.
I don't care if a small piece of warm putty found in my armpit wins it as long as it's not Fleur.

Have I made my position clear?

In all honesty, I think it will turn out much better for her if she didn't win. So to those who don't want her to win due their dislike of her, I think you are mistaking some Fleur fans for people who give a flying fig.

But don't the top two acts get signed anyway ? (top three sometimes too ) So boyth of these will get signed

Is it?...
It sounds more like a thread to motivate Fleur voters that it's not done yet.

Anyway, fair enough. If Fleur fans want her to win, they still have to vote this weekend.

And we give a shit because! If she does win what you gonna do? Start a petition because she's a black artist as you so keep saying

Yes, we all know why you dont want Fleur to win. Sad really

Ive loved him since day one. Now that hes in the final I can finally scream yeeeeeeeehaaa! 💃

When he sang Eagles at boot camp was when I thought he could win. 🙅
Fleur brought something new never done before so I think she will win.

I also believe Ben will win .
Not sure it makes too much difference to Fleur though, I'm sure she will be signed and have less pressure on her as the runner up.

Ben however will win, and flop. Hes just the same as all the other male flop winners. Nothing to see here. Winning by default due to the strong desperate housewives vote.

Aura101, that's what i fear. If Ben doesn't win, then will he get a contract? I doubt it? I reckon his only chance of any success is a win... but he may fall into the Leon Jackson category.

I actually think Andrea might have an amazing night leading to a Andrea and Fleur final 2

contract, he is unlikely to get in case of loss, but can give a chance

Hope not, he's just your average good singer who seems to be a one trick pony.

Could be a shock and Ben may be out 3rd even Fleur all depends on there performances and if Fleur manages to not break her neck in the swan dive

Think quite a few people only watch the finals so it depends on who they warm to on the night. Ben is more emotional and likeable (not to say that Fleur isn't likeable) - but voters often seem to go for the underdog on the final night.

Depends on how pimped up Fleur is with better songs, bigger productions and Simon prattling on about how she is an international star etc etc . It is likely to be manipulated in her favour - but if Ben gets emotional and tearful he could pull it off as that vulnerability will appeal to the public.

I might be totally wrong and Andrea might win!

For me that would be a shock and I would have to eat humble pie on here..