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Old 13-12-2014, 10:07
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Ben now 2.02 favourite on Betfair
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:08
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Ben now 2.02 favourite on Betfair
Ignore Betfair, not enough money in the market to make it worthwhile. There is definite closing in of the odds though.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:09
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Lol this is to funny because Ben has got 50% allegedly everyone is like well yeah it's true but if it was Fleur who got it then everyone would be like nah it's not true - psychology is a funny thing.

So as Ben is the favourite with you guys it's not Bs but if boot was on other finalists show it would be utter crap.

So in light of the article can we stop saying Fleur is pimped and the manipulation of the show is terrible now that Ben is supposedly running away with the votes.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:10
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Lol this is to funny because Ben has got 50% allegedly everyone is like well yeah it's true but if it was Fleur who got it then everyone would be like nah it's not true - psychology is a funny thing.

So as Ben is the favourite with you guys it's not Bs but if boot was on other finalists show it would be utter crap.

So in light of the article can we stop saying Fleur is pimped and the manipulation of the show is terrible now that Ben is supposedly running away with the votes.
Doesnt mean that Fleur hasnt been pimped though. Producers obviously wanted her in the Final and she could still win.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:11
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Doesnt mean that Fleur hasnt been pimped though. Producers obviously wanted her in the Final and she could still win.
Nah, she can't
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:12
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Ignore Betfair, not enough money in the market to make it worthwhile. There is definite closing in of the odds though.
Odds shorten from bookies by Betfairs market, so that post is totally wrong
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:13
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Once Fleur has out performed Ben this evening the odds will be changing again anyway.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:13
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Odds shorten from bookies by Betfairs market, so that post is totally wrong
Agree. Betfair is always the one to look at first.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:13
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Once Fleur has out performed Ben this evening the odds will be changing again anyway.
Like last week according to this leak.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:13
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Doesnt mean that Fleur hasnt been pimped though. Producers obviously wanted her in the Final and she could still win.
Fleur won't win, I have thought for a while Ben would, he is the typical boring male winner, he has the house wife vote, gran vote, young women and teenie girls vote.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:14
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They're fairly reliable, aren't they?

Ben is your typical XF winnah and I can see him raking in votes from the programme's main demographic. Shame about Fleur but it's probably for the best if she doesn't win anyway...
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:15
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At least she may make second which is good!
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:16
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At least she may make second which is good!
True, would still luved to of seen her win though, but women are only allowed to win once or twice every year.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:16
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Honestly just enjoy the shows guys. Anything can happen..
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:16
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Ben 1.67 on Betfair now lol
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:16
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If Ben does win i give him 12 months and dont even think his winners single will hit #1
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:18
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Like last week according to this leak.
And where was Ben in the itunes chart? i am still looking, so he could'nt have had that many votes. It stands to reason.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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And where was Ben in the itunes chart? i am still looking, so he could'nt have had that many votes. It stands to reason.
where you come in itunes doesnt mean a thing when it comes to votes
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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True, would still luved to of seen her win though, but women are only allowed to win once or twice every year.
She could still do well - she's got a growing fan base all the time - tonight is what matters depends how much she's pimped tonight and we best hope cowells sheep are voting in forces tonight!
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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And where was Ben in the itunes chart? i am still looking, so he could'nt have had that many votes. It stands to reason.
Well the people who vote and the people who buy songs are very different, hence the success of the likes of JLS, 1D etc who didn't win the show
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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And where was Ben in the itunes chart? i am still looking, so he could'nt have had that many votes. It stands to reason.
Those that vote don't equate to those that buy. Ben could get through on the granny vote.

Both are great talents. But Fleur is the breakout I think. She doesn't need to win to be a success.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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Daily Star is ALWAYS accurate with its voting leaks, hence the huge swing in the odds.

I'd be more surprised if they were wrong to be honest.

That gap is huge, especially after Fleur's performances.

I think we could find that Ben has been topping the votes almost all series like Matt Cardle did
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:19
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Well the person who placed the 20k either has money to waste, or is in the know.
Nah someone supposedly placed a similar sized bet on Quickenden to win the jungle. If he really did have inside info he wouldn't have done it because the voting stats showed he was never gone overhaul Foggy.

These bets try to give a false confidence that something is a definite because no one would risk that much money if they weren't sure of the outcome. But then people blow large amounts on footie accums these days so anything is possible.

As for the leak its from a paper with a history of CORRECT X Factor leaks, I'd definitely believe the gist of it even if the figures aren't entirely spot on which is Bens been the front runner all series and despite the whole Uptown Funk promo storm is STILL far out in front.
Its entirely believable and I've thought for some time Ben would win simply because he probably built a fanbase early on and thats normally a good start. We met the 'van driver' at his audition and people fell for him there. Fleur even Cowell said he didnt remember until judges house.
So where i imagine hes consistently polled well since the very first vote, Fleur has probably steadily climbed the rankings over other pre show 'stories' and has only just displaced Andrea in recent weeks.

The leak is about ensuring a closer final and making sure Cowell gets his chosen top 2 because the stats show there is definitely a chance for Andrea to break into top 2 and isn't the lame Final duck many assumed
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:20
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And where was Ben in the itunes chart? i am still looking, so he could'nt have had that many votes. It stands to reason.
No it doesn't. Stereo Kicks were the highest on the iTunes chart the week they were eliminated.
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Old 13-12-2014, 10:24
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Well the people who vote and the people who buy songs are very different, hence the success of the likes of JLS, 1D etc who didn't win the show
But it will be all about selling records after the show which is why Fleur is far more likely to do well whether she finishes first or second.
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