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Not Mentioning Ola Was A Disgrace
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lundavra
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Have you read your contract for work, if you work? There are often conditions included on what you can and can't do.

For instance I was a teacher and included in my contract was the fact that if I wrote any material that was published, any income from it had to be paid to my employer as it was their property because I had written in while employed by them even if I did it during evenings and weekends. Sound ridiculous, but if I had written a romantic novel while employed as a science teacher that condition would still apply, even though the novel had nothing whatsoever to do with my work.

Most employment contracts contain clauses on what activities you cannot do - it's often to do with insurance. I would think that the BBC insures all their dancers against injury and would therefore not allow "dangerous" activities outside the show, If they were injured there could be lengthy legal wrangling over which activity was the prime cause of the injury and who should pay out.”

I suspect that if she had been in breach of her BBC contract then something would have been said by the BBC. But as the contracts are private we will not know.

I wonder if a contract like your one would stand up to a challenge in court? I can understand an employed expecting to benefit from activities related to work but I think they would find it difficult to justify that.
daziechain
15-12-2014
I'm sure they don't wish her ill but can't imagine they're best pleased with her for doing that whilst under contract. It's more of a disgrace actually that she did do it ... absolute madness in fact and she let her fellow pro's down let alone her celebrity partner.
alan_tracy
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“...I wonder if a contract like your one would stand up to a challenge in court? I can understand an employed expecting to benefit from activities related to work but I think they would find it difficult to justify that.”

Almost certainly unenforceable. Many employers put catch all terms in contracts. They have no intention to enforce them as written, it's a starting point for review or negotiation if any conflict does turn up. Bad practice, but it happens.

If you wrote a manual about some aspect of your work, illustrated with examples from your workplace - as many teaching guides and ideas books are - then employers may have a say. If you write fiction at weekends, they don't.
Janet43
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by alan_tracy:
“Almost certainly unenforceable. Many employers put catch all terms in contracts. They have no intention to enforce them as written, it's a starting point for review or negotiation if any conflict does turn up. Bad practice, but it happens.

If you wrote a manual about some aspect of your work, illustrated with examples from your workplace - as many teaching guides and ideas books are - then employers may have a say. If you write fiction at weekends, they don't.”

That type of condition probably wouldn't even be included in a teaching contract now - I did retire in 1997 - but I'm sure there would be one restricting "dangerous" activities which could affect their ability to do their job for dancers.

Not that I have the ability to write any type of novel, let alone a romantic one. I did write an instructional one for horse owners, but used a pen name and kept quiet about it.
Summeriris
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Have you read your contract for work, if you work? There are often conditions included on what you can and can't do.

For instance I was a teacher and included in my contract was the fact that if I wrote any material that was published, any income from it had to be paid to my employer as it was their property because I had written in while employed by them even if I did it during evenings and weekends. Sound ridiculous, but if I had written a romantic novel while employed as a science teacher that condition would still apply, even though the novel had nothing whatsoever to do with my work.

Most employment contracts contain clauses on what activities you cannot do - it's often to do with insurance. I would think that the BBC insures all their dancers against injury and would therefore not allow "dangerous" activities outside the show, If they were injured there could be lengthy legal wrangling over which activity was the prime cause of the injury and who should pay out.”


Yes but those clauses in your contract may not stand up in a court trial, and lets face it...Ola could have been struck down by a car crossing the street. You simply cannot safeguard against everything. And if the reports are correct it may turn out to have been a freak accident.
mossy2103
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by Summeriris:
“Yes but those clauses in your contract may not stand up in a court trial, and lets face it...Ola could have been struck down by a car crossing the street. You simply cannot safeguard against everything. And if the reports are correct it may turn out to have been a freak accident.”

A freak accident, but unlike crossing the road, one directly related to taking part in a known risky physical pursuit, ergo contributory negligence.
tvqueen1905
15-12-2014
Hope ola can dance again in future
zabe
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Ola was a disgrace, she had contractual obligations to SCD and pranced off and injured herself. Unprofessional and stupid.”

Maybe the two words to describe you Annsyre are..............vicious and heartless!
alan29
15-12-2014
Still, it will give her more time to devote to her dodgy "modelling" career.
Sallyforth
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Still, it will give her more time to devote to her dodgy "modelling" career.”

Well maybe yes if there is a market for photos for those with a crutch (not I said crutch not crotch) fetish....
lundavra
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by alan_tracy:
“Almost certainly unenforceable. Many employers put catch all terms in contracts. They have no intention to enforce them as written, it's a starting point for review or negotiation if any conflict does turn up. Bad practice, but it happens.

If you wrote a manual about some aspect of your work, illustrated with examples from your workplace - as many teaching guides and ideas books are - then employers may have a say. If you write fiction at weekends, they don't.”

He could write a rather pornographic novel under a pseudonym and see if the school wanted a tabloid headline about them earning money from porn.
Chiltons Cane
15-12-2014
Why should they mention her?
they are prob annoyed with her to be honest.
Janet43
15-12-2014
Has anyone read their travel insurance document for your summer holiday? Think you'll find that most will exclude "dangerous" activities such as rock climbing, bungee jumping and some other physical activities.

Having an accident in your car taking part in a car race while only covered by your ordinary car insurance would certainly void it. Ola could be in the same situation of voiding her Strictly insurance and contract.
Steve9214
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“Why should they mention her?
they are prob annoyed with her to be honest.”

I am thinking about Top Gear when Ben Collins wrote a book and outed himself as The Stig.

IIRC they did drive-by shootings at his cutout.

Any dangerous sport requires extra insurance - I had to take out extra insurance for my son to do an ice hockey training course while we were on holiday in USA.
Ski jumping would need it's own insurance - if they even offered it - bearing in mind the horrible injuries for the last series.
SeasideLady
15-12-2014
Pictures from Daily Mail today

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ming-Jump.html
erin_p
15-12-2014
Why would they ,,,,she was under contract and went with another network before her obligation to the BBC had been fulfilled. Why did a pro dancer not consider the long term implications to their career should they be involved in an accident doing such a high risk sport .Madness...........
LurkingGood
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“Ola has worked on the show for years but the Producers could not find 10 seconds to wish her all the best. Pathetic is putting it mildly.”

Shame you couldn't be bothered to wish her well, more interested in criticizing the show.
Ellie_
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by SeasideLady:
“Pictures from Daily Mail today

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ming-Jump.html”

Poor Ola. I hope it heals well and she is able to dance just as well as before. Say what you like about James, he is a very supportive husband indeed who loves her dearly - I'm glad she has somebody like that by her side.

People break their legs tripping down the stairs - obviously there is a higher risk with skiing but so many people ski and have no injuries at all. She was brave to try something new.

Wishing her well! For dancers it's not just a job - it's their whole life. It must hurt deeply to have it hanging in the balance like this.
lundavra
16-12-2014
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Why would they ,,,,she was under contract and went with another network before her obligation to the BBC had been fulfilled. Why did a pro dancer not consider the long term implications to their career should they be involved in an accident doing such a high risk sport .Madness...........”

From what little has been said, she signed a contract with another network which starts after the end of the BBC contract as she is entitled to do. She appears to have been getting a little skiing training before she starts on the news series, perhaps she did not want to look a complete idiot on skis when she started on the new series. I doubt that she was doing any ski jumping, more likely just normal skiing.

I think people have been shown ice skating on some of the videos done for the programmes, as well as other potential dangerous activities if they go wrong.
Steve9214
21-12-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“Ola has worked on the show for years but the Producers could not find 10 seconds to wish her all the best. Pathetic is putting it mildly.”

Victim of circumstances.
Ola was in the group dance when Take That's final appearance was recorded,.
So - like the recorded results show being referred to as Sunday - they cannot say " get well Ola" if she is clearly to be seen dancing in front of Take That who are supposed to be performing live at the final.
RoseAnne
22-12-2014
Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“Victim of circumstances.
Ola was in the group dance when Take That's final appearance was recorded,.
So - like the recorded results show being referred to as Sunday - they cannot say " get well Ola" if she is clearly to be seen dancing in front of Take That who are supposed to be performing live at the final.”

Was that Ola? I tried to look for her using pause on iPlayer but couldn't positively identify as the one I thought could be her kept going out of camera shot, and now she is brunette doesn't help either. I thought Anya was there too.
EyeballEyeball
22-12-2014
At least she'll now have more time to dedicate to her spot cream ads.
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