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Old 28-03-2015, 10:32
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One thing for sure, Aaron will not play 2nd fiddle long term, they have just done this, so the story must take on a new twist.

I have quite a few random thoughts rolling round my head:

If the whites were removed from the equation, would Robert be happy to have a relationship with Aaron out in the open? Or does that still not fit with his own vision of how his life should be?

Robert is smart and ruthless enough to get his own wealth status, he wouldn't need the whites then... There is lots of potential for something to go down between him and Lawrence which could get him this in some way.

I never watched when Robert was in it before, with katie, but he is a lot older now. Some people play the field until they find "the one". Not saying that this is Aaron but it could be.(I tend to think people never really change so Robert will always be looking for a new challenge, but sometimes how they direct their energy changes). Maybe this is just the romantic coming in me and this is soap land so never going to happen. Scratch that thought ☺☺
Maybe, like someone said previously maybe its because he never met the right person, he obviously was very much in love with Katie at the time but she obviously was not enough or the right person either if he threw away their relationship by having an affair with Sadie but he was young and she was probably the first girl/person he really loved, he supposedly loves Chrissie but she isn't enough(i don't buy into their love but maybe its because they have no chemistry and they look more like brother and sister to me and that he mainly only loves her because of what she represents ) but maybe Robert just will never change, I have said too if him and Aaron do get together it may not last/ be a happy ending because of his wondering ways
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Old 28-03-2015, 10:35
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Just a mad thought cos I don't want him to leave ED but I think that Danny could do X Factor very well now Dermot been sacked - big mistake BTW - Danny's done pantomime and other stuff besides ED.
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Old 28-03-2015, 10:46
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I remember Kate mentioning about Roberts past and never being happy with his relationships and always looking for more, bit if you remember the article she suggested that was because it was a man he probably wants/needs something deep and longterm with. It seems a bit odd for her to say if its never going to filter into the show/story.
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Old 28-03-2015, 11:46
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I remember Kate mentioning about Roberts past and never being happy with his relationships and always looking for more, bit if you remember the article she suggested that was because it was a man he probably wants/needs something deep and longterm with. It seems a bit odd for her to say if its never going to filter into the show/story.
Yes i remember This interview.
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Old 28-03-2015, 12:57
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If Chrissie was a broke mechanic and scrap worker with a voilent temper and a fragile mental state would Robert be interested at all?
Lol, because all those things sounds soo attractive!!!! Yet the man who plays him does it so well that loads of folk do!
Rather than marrying the daughter of his rich boss who promoted him up through the ranks because robert knew how to manipulate the old mans desire for him.

#disfuntional
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Old 28-03-2015, 12:58
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If Chrissie was a broke mechanic and scrap worker with a voilent temper and a fragile mental state would Robert be interested at all?
thumbs way up!!!! XD Only as a concubine you see, sidedishes, sidedishes..
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Old 28-03-2015, 13:40
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I'm kinda losing track with the spoilers but if Robert has Aaron at HF for some time next week and Aaron get relaxed enough to say ILY again back to him it will be so obvious if it's immediately then that Chrissie decides to come back early causing Aaron to go off again
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Old 28-03-2015, 13:47
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Absolutely loved this week☺

I do believe that robert loves aaron, his actions say it all. Not sure weather he was telling aaron for the right reasons but i definitely believe he does. The way robert was in his scenes with aaron yesterday was telling, i dont know what i was but there was something every different there.

Im excited to where this SL is going, there chemistry is just unbelievable. Really hope we get some scenes of them enjoying time alone next week, i doubt it but it would be great, feels like forever since there been on screen together.
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Old 28-03-2015, 13:52
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I remember Kate mentioning about Roberts past and never being happy with his relationships and always looking for more, bit if you remember the article she suggested that was because it was a man he probably wants/needs something deep and longterm with. It seems a bit odd for her to say if its never going to filter into the show/story.
I agree Andy.

I've known a couple of people who are promiscuous, fickle, incapable of being faithful and you just think they will never settle down with just one person. Then suddenly, lo and behold they are in a completely monogamous same sex relationship and are happy and contented. On that basis I find the way kate and the writers are taking the storyline is completely realistic, and my dream scenario is looking closer all the time! . (Not planning on revealing it anytime soon, don't want to jinx it! )
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Old 28-03-2015, 14:30
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It is possible to love more than one person at any one time. You just love them in different ways. Robert loves Chrissie for the wealth. power and status that she gives him. That's all.
Yeah I guess it is possible as people say this.I haven't been in that situation so I can't really comment.I do also think that Robert loves her for the status,wealth etc but I just wonder as that's not what Ryan has alluded to in interviews etc-he seems to say that Robert loves her for her
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Old 28-03-2015, 14:48
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Yeah I guess it is possible as people say this.I haven't been in that situation so I can't really comment.I do also think that Robert loves her for the status,wealth etc but I just wonder as that's not what Ryan has alluded to in interviews etc-he seems to say that Robert loves her for her
Ryan alluded to that? I'd love to read that interview please.. that sounds shocking
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:02
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Ryan alluded to that? I'd love to read that interview please.. that sounds shocking
How do you mean shocking ?
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:05
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The part when robert was parked up when aaron followed him, did he know aaron was going to come after him? I didnt get how they both ended up there.
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:24
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The part when robert was parked up when aaron followed him, did he know aaron was going to come after him? I didnt get how they both ended up there.
Robert knew exactly what he was doing and he was certainly sure that Aaron would come after him,he had tried a few ways if getting his attention before this
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:26
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The part when robert was parked up when aaron followed him, did he know aaron was going to come after him? I didnt get how they both ended up there.
Like Lmack said, Robert knew exactly what he was doing, that's why he was being a d*ck towards Aaron when he turned up at the Scrap Yard with Ross cause he knew Aaron would chase after him angrily
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:39
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The part when robert was parked up when aaron followed him, did he know aaron was going to come after him? I didnt get how they both ended up there.
Yep I think he did. The whole thing with the car was set up so Aaron would blow his stack, all part of Robert 's plan to get his attention. He knew Aaron would be gunning for him and chase after him, so all he had to do was park up and wait for Aaron to find him. The business proposition he had for Ross was basically to pretend Robert had agreed for the scrapyard to take the car, then return it to outside the cafe with no harm done. I'd love to know how Ross explained it to Adam tho! lol

My guess is that stretch of road is between the village and Home Farm as it's where the first kiss took place after Robert had his fake breakdown. Not necessarily on the main road as that might be a bit public, but somewhere easy for Aaron to find.
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:44
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I did like lasts nights episode. Great kisses etc, I hope that when the home farm scenes come up it might give Robert chance to talk about his feelings explain what he really feels mybe even talk about how he feels for Chrissy and Aaron maybe even talk to Aaron about his past a bit. Yes I know I'm way off beam but want our boys to be genuinely happy. I think my fellow Robron fans we need to enjoy last night and maybe even this week from what we've heard it's going to get stormy again soon but at least for now the Robron ship is still very much afloat 😄😄😄
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:44
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It's interesting with Robert as he is a complex character.It could be that he genuinely loves Chrissie.For me personally I don't know how he can do what he does to her though because he cheats and constantly lies.Then again he has lied to Aaron too,but up until now he hasn't loved him.It maybe is that Robert had never found the one yet.He was in love with Katie for sure but he threw it away.He was young though.He has always been a cheat it seems with a wandering eye,always looking for more.It seemed he thought he had found that with Chrissie but here he is again cheating.Maybe he has never had true love with anyone male or female.And maybe now it is with a male (Aaron) that he had found it
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:50
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How do you mean shocking ?
I mean we're here discussing a (ambiguous) gay love story and you're telling us that one of the actors is alluding to his character loving his wife. How shocking is that. What is there to discuss then? Most think Chrissy is there as a financial crutch for Robert.

Bring on Finn and Aaron then!! Honestly
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:50
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I did like lasts nights episode. Great kisses etc, I hope that when the home farm scenes come up it might give Robert chance to talk about his feelings explain what he really feels mybe even talk about how he feels for Chrissy and Aaron maybe even talk to Aaron about his past a bit. Yes I know I'm way off beam but want our boys to be genuinely happy. I think my fellow Robron fans we need to enjoy last night and maybe even this week from what we've heard it's going to get stormy again soon but at least for now the Robron ship is still very much afloat 😄😄😄
That would be good.How is it to get stormy again ?
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:53
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I mean we're here discussing a (ambiguous) gay love story and you're telling us that one of the actors is alluding to his character loving his wife. How shocking is that. What is there to discuss then? Most think Chrissy is there as a financial crutch for Robert.

Bring on Finn and Aaron then!! Honestly
Ryan has always said that Robert loved Chrissie though.Thats why I have always been a bit uncertain.But they want to have this ambiguity it seems.A lot of people on here also do believe he loves Chrissie.Did you not know this ?
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Old 28-03-2015, 15:55
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Robert does love Chrissie. She's just not enough for him. He's said that himself. Does he love Chrissie more than Aaron? Aaron more than Chrissie? Honestly I'd say the former at the moment but it's not like it can't become the latter in the coming weeks/months.
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Old 28-03-2015, 16:02
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How about my first thought because I always felt with Robert it's about appearance and status. Do you think he would freely go into an "out" relationship with Aaron where everyone knows they are a couple?
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Old 28-03-2015, 16:10
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I mean we're here discussing a (ambiguous) gay love story and you're telling us that one of the actors is alluding to his character loving his wife. How shocking is that. What is there to discuss then? Most think Chrissy is there as a financial crutch for Robert.

Bring on Finn and Aaron then!! Honestly
Still don't think it's shocking - maybe it's a bit disconcerting as it may mean things won't pan out as we hope, but shocking? Nope. With my life experiences it's not even particularly surprising. You've heard of denial, right? It's really very common!

We've discussed Robert's feelings for his wife many times. There's no doubt that he thinks he loves her, but actions speak louder than words, and she seems to irritate him a lot of the time. Whether he would ever be able or willing to leave her remains to be seen, and that's what gives the storyline longevity.

I would have loved Finn and Aaron to get together pre-Robron, but now it would be like going from the Ritz to a Premier Inn! I don't know why I'm replying to such an obvious troll, but it amuses me on a cold rainy day when I can't be arsed to go out tbh! Lol
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Old 28-03-2015, 16:11
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I know some of you will be annoyed I've said this but I don't think the ILY its genuine. I noticed the emphasis on the IlY to Chrissie tonight when she agreed he could stay at HF whilst they were away on holiday. He uses ILY as a way of manipulation and to bring back some control over Aaron when he was becoming a loose canon..
I'm sorry but I'm afraid I disagree.

I think it is different with a boy or a girl. Although someone like Robert (regardless of Chrissie being his wife) would certainly find it much easier to say ILY to any girl just to get what he wanted it would be completely different with another guy. He just wouldn't do it for the same reason. Where its in order to keep himself out of serious trouble he just might but it would be harder for him and he wouldn't do it any more times than he felt he really had to. If there was nothing there at all, each of the three times he said it to Aaron would have got harder for him.

The first time he said it he wasn't even facing Aaron, the second he was standing up and looking at him and finally he was up close and personal. Aaron, and us watching, obviously had doubts at first as to how genuine it was but having watched it again (and again and again) I am sure it was and if it wasn't quite yet everything that Aaron feels it's certainly not completely meaningless. Looking at it from another angle I think its clear that Robert certainly cares enough about Aaron not to be so completely heartless to say ILY if he felt absolutely nothing because if he did feel nothing there are other ways he could have tried to keep Aaron quiet. After all if Aaron had been straight Robert would have had to protect himself in some other way.
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