Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, if it's 2-2, then it should go back to who is bottom in the public vote”
“Yes, if it's 2-2, then it should go back to who is bottom in the public vote”
Agreed
I really don't like the fact that Len gets the deciding vote
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I thought we were discussing if Len deserves the autocratic vote....not whether he made the right decision?
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Jake may not have been in the bottom 2 with the public though, remember.
I think this whole Head Judge thing is a load of nonsense anyway. We only need three judges, then we would always get a majority decision which would prevent these outcomes and save the BBC a small fortune.”
“Jake may not have been in the bottom 2 with the public though, remember.
I think this whole Head Judge thing is a load of nonsense anyway. We only need three judges, then we would always get a majority decision which would prevent these outcomes and save the BBC a small fortune.”
What outcomes?
How would it save the BBC a small fortune?
To be fair, even though I am not a fan of Len I don't think it makes any difference who has the deciding vote. The producers decide who will leave in a dance off and the judges do what they are told. Probably they need judges who are better actors as last week two of them were completely unbelievable!
Originally Posted by Nosaer:
“To be fair, even though I am not a fan of Len I don't think it makes any difference who has the deciding vote. The producers decide who will leave in a dance off and the judges do what they are told. Probably they need judges who are better actors as last week two of them were completely unbelievable!”
“To be fair, even though I am not a fan of Len I don't think it makes any difference who has the deciding vote. The producers decide who will leave in a dance off and the judges do what they are told. Probably they need judges who are better actors as last week two of them were completely unbelievable!”
And you have evidence to prove this?
Originally Posted by Dragonlady 25:
“And you have evidence to prove this?”
“And you have evidence to prove this?
”
See tour bias thread. Don't know how to do links sorry.
Originally Posted by Nosaer:
“See tour bias thread. Don't know how to do links sorry.”
“See tour bias thread. Don't know how to do links sorry.”
I asked for proof, not more supposition and conspiracy theories.
Last week Pixie was worst in the D/O and she went, this week Jake was worse and he went. Seems fair to me and I have been rooting for Jake since week one, so I'm disappointed but nevertheless I agree with the decision.
And to put it to the public vote again if the judges vote 2 against 2 would be ridiculous. The easiest way round it would be to have a panel of 3 judges.
And to put it to the public vote again if the judges vote 2 against 2 would be ridiculous. The easiest way round it would be to have a panel of 3 judges.
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Just when I thought It wasn't possible to loathe Len any more, he does it again.
I don't think there's room to stick any more pins in my Len voodoo doll, I'm going to have to make another.”
“Just when I thought It wasn't possible to loathe Len any more, he does it again.
I don't think there's room to stick any more pins in my Len voodoo doll, I'm going to have to make another.”
You could get a couple of walnuts in the meantime
There might as well not be any other judges if Len is going to override everyone. Not arguing about who went but the unfairness of it.
Originally Posted by Lynne_Ryan:
“There might as well not be any other judges if Len is going to override everyone. Not arguing about who went but the unfairness of it.”
“There might as well not be any other judges if Len is going to override everyone. Not arguing about who went but the unfairness of it.”
Remember that if the other 3 are in agreement, Len gets no vote at all.
Originally Posted by Maxine_Roch:
“Does anyone else not like I think that needs to be changed now if it's 2 votes each then it returns to the public vote and the person with the least votes goes home.”
“Does anyone else not like I think that needs to be changed now if it's 2 votes each then it returns to the public vote and the person with the least votes goes home.”
Why on earth would they do that. It isn't exactly a model system on X Factor. "Oh, Dermot, it's so hard, I don't know what to do (even though I am paid zillions of pounds because I am supposed to know what I am doing), I am just so torn....let's take it to deadlock" (which happens every week regardless of the huge gulf between the contestants. At least on Strictly we have judges who can make a decision and Len is the most qualified of all of them to make it. Jake was the worst dancer last night and he was eliminated on merit (or lack thereof).
Originally Posted by Bedlam_maid:
“The easiest way round it would be to have a panel of 3 judges.”
“The easiest way round it would be to have a panel of 3 judges.”
In which case, if the first two disagree then the last gets a casting vote...!
I hate conspiracy theories, hate them. But after tonight for the first time my first instinct was fix. Len hated Marks dance and yet he decides on balance to vote for him? I just don't buy it. Plus I've been suspicious all week about how often people have mentioned marks lack of dance experience...
Originally Posted by natalian:
“Why on earth would they do that. It isn't exactly a model system on X Factor. "Oh, Dermot, it's so hard, I don't know what to do (even though I am paid zillions of pounds because I am supposed to know what I am doing), I am just so torn....let's take it to deadlock" (which happens every week regardless of the huge gulf between the contestants. At least on Strictly we have judges who can make a decision and Len is the most qualified of all of them to make it. Jake was the worst dancer last night and he was eliminated on merit (or lack thereof).”
“Why on earth would they do that. It isn't exactly a model system on X Factor. "Oh, Dermot, it's so hard, I don't know what to do (even though I am paid zillions of pounds because I am supposed to know what I am doing), I am just so torn....let's take it to deadlock" (which happens every week regardless of the huge gulf between the contestants. At least on Strictly we have judges who can make a decision and Len is the most qualified of all of them to make it. Jake was the worst dancer last night and he was eliminated on merit (or lack thereof).”
I agree.
What I don't like is these repeated attacks on the judges' integrity. I simply do not believe that they are told what to do by the producers. These accusations are made without foundation so far as I can see, and seem to be based on disappointment at the departure of a favourite. As for the public vote, how can it be fairer, when we can vote three times on line and as often as we care to pay for by phone? I have been disappointed at Len's decision sometimes myself, but I respect the fact that he is the judge, not me. So please, folks, give it a rest. Just because the judges don't always agree with us doesn't mean they are wrong, and questioning their integrity really is not worthy behaviour.
I have already suggested on another thread, make the judging panel an uneven number (3 or 5 judges) then there would be no need for a deciding vote ..... Simples!!
Originally Posted by RachelBlackburn:
“In which case, if the first two disagree then the last gets a casting vote...!”
“In which case, if the first two disagree then the last gets a casting vote...!
”
Originally Posted by Vir Cotto:
“I have already suggested on another thread, make the judging panel an uneven number (3 or 5 judges) then there would be no need for a deciding vote ..... Simples!!”
“I have already suggested on another thread, make the judging panel an uneven number (3 or 5 judges) then there would be no need for a deciding vote ..... Simples!!”
See above!!
Originally Posted by Vir Cotto:
“I have already suggested on another thread, make the judging panel an uneven number (3 or 5 judges) then there would be no need for a deciding vote ..... Simples!!”
“I have already suggested on another thread, make the judging panel an uneven number (3 or 5 judges) then there would be no need for a deciding vote ..... Simples!!”
It isn't "simples" . Whoever votes last gets the casting vote if there is a deadlock.
If its 2 against 2 in the judges votes in the DO they could decide it by whoever tops the leaderboard over the 11 weeks combined .
Originally Posted by Paace:
“If its 2 against 2 in the judges votes in the DO they could decide it by whoever tops the leaderboard over the 11 weeks combined .”
“If its 2 against 2 in the judges votes in the DO they could decide it by whoever tops the leaderboard over the 11 weeks combined .”
That seems quite fair actually
Originally Posted by Paace:
“If its 2 against 2 in the judges votes in the DO they could decide it by whoever tops the leaderboard over the 11 weeks combined .”
“If its 2 against 2 in the judges votes in the DO they could decide it by whoever tops the leaderboard over the 11 weeks combined .”
Leave it as it is!! How hard is that to understand? It works!!
Originally Posted by Dragonlady 25:
“What outcomes?
How would it save the BBC a small fortune?
”
“What outcomes?
How would it save the BBC a small fortune?
”
Do you really need me to spell it out?
The judges supposedly get paid over £100,000 per series - so by having 3 judges instead of 4, they save £100k.
Many fans may also accept a 2/3 decision to vote off their favourite better than a 2/2 decision.
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