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Old 15-12-2014, 13:18
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But that kind of makes strictly like zero hours contracts - they can reduce you down to a very minor role at any moment with hardly any notice and reduce pay accordingly, but you still have to commit every moment of your life solely to strictly.
I suspect it is a self employment arrangement, you are paid a price for the job. If whoever negotiates the contracts has any mettle (I think most of the dancers have management of some sort?) it will make allowances for being able to do other work, unforseen eventualities etc.
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Old 15-12-2014, 13:24
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I may have missed it but I did not hear any remarks on Saturday from Claudia or Tess wishing her a speedy recovery which I thought was a bit "off"

I imagine she was contracted from Strictly for the whole series, I can't see bosses being too impressed that she was practising for a show for another channel and got herself injured so she couldn't fulfil her contractural obligations.
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Old 15-12-2014, 13:29
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People whose earning potential relies on a part of their body being kept in tip top condition don't usually put said body part in harms way. They usually go out of their way to minimise any risk, not maximise it.
Or you could look at it that what she and James are doing are recognising that as they get older it's harder to have all your eggs in the dancing basket careerwise, so it was an intentional choice to move on from that.
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Old 15-12-2014, 13:29
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Id hope that she would be allowed to at least sit in the audience for the final - she was part of the series for a long time - and deserves to be there.[/quote]

Does she want to sit in the audience for the final?? How does anybody know this. It could easily be too uncomfortable for her anyway.


Get well soon Ola
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Old 15-12-2014, 13:48
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But that kind of makes strictly like zero hours contracts - they can reduce you down to a very minor role at any moment with hardly any notice and reduce pay accordingly, but you still have to commit every moment of your life solely to strictly.
Strictly is not like a zero hours contract. The pros are paid a flat fee for the series I understand, even if you are knocked out early. You still have to commit to doing the pro-dances obviously, with or without a celeb right up to the finish. As for the final, EVERYBODY in the cast is expected to take part, only real illness or perhaps bereavement lets you off.
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Old 15-12-2014, 15:09
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Strictly is not like a zero hours contract. The pros are paid a flat fee for the series I understand, even if you are knocked out early. You still have to commit to doing the pro-dances obviously, with or without a celeb right up to the finish. As for the final, EVERYBODY in the cast is expected to take part, only real illness or perhaps bereavement lets you off.
I dont know the exact wording of the Strictly Contracts but unless they have some wording that specifically forbids particular activites during the time strictly is running I cant see that Ola has done anything wrong. Ola has a real illness or at least Injury so clearly cant take a full part in the final, but it doesnt mean she cant be there.

Unless winter sports is excluded of course which means that none of the dancers would be allowed recreational skiing skating etc in time when they werent required for strictly duties, and then you need to start excluding horse riding, climbing playing sports such as football etc etc..

Whether Ola was wise to think about doing the Jump - well thats a whole different question bearing in mind the injury rate last season, but the training she was doing last week was basic skiing loads of people do that in their time out of the office
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Old 15-12-2014, 15:46
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I dont know the exact wording of the Strictly Contracts but unless they have some wording that specifically forbids particular activites during the time strictly is running I cant see that Ola has done anything wrong. Ola has a real illness or at least Injury so clearly cant take a full part in the final, but it doesnt mean she cant be there.

Unless winter sports is excluded of course which means that none of the dancers would be allowed recreational skiing skating etc in time when they werent required for strictly duties, and then you need to start excluding horse riding, climbing playing sports such as football etc etc..

Whether Ola was wise to think about doing the Jump - well thats a whole different question bearing in mind the injury rate last season, but the training she was doing last week was basic skiing loads of people do that in their time out of the office
No sorry, it does not wash with me. Sacrifices always have to be made when you are appearing to the public. In a show-business contract specifically you HAVE to fulfil your obligations to the level expected of you until the end, therefore you should not be doing anything by choice that could potentially have a serious impact on that. Surely she along with all the other pros are expected to perform one or even several demanding pro-dances in the last two weeks, plus appearing with all the other eliminated couples in the final. Not to mention possible appearances on ITT.

I am connected to the business and I can tell you, that this has a very dim view taken of it. If you sign a contract for a show with matinees for example, you can't suddenly announce cheerfully, 'oh I'm appearing at the Haven camp on Saturdays, do you mind if I do that instead.' You have signed a contract, that's it. You stick it out until the end, and then what you do in your time is your business.
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Old 15-12-2014, 17:55
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HI TWEEPS

Thank you so much for all of the lovely messages you have sent my little trooper @The_OlaJordan
It means so much to her 😘😘😘

Just wanted to say that @The_OlaJordan is now at home resting.
She wanted to send you all a big kiss
So here you go!

That's what James Jordan's said
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Old 15-12-2014, 18:27
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Darcey had knee ligament reconstruction surgery relatively recently so I hope she will be able to commiserate with Ola and offer her tips and support.
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Old 15-12-2014, 18:49
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No sorry, it does not wash with me. Sacrifices always have to be made when you are appearing to the public. In a show-business contract specifically you HAVE to fulfil your obligations to the level expected of you until the end, therefore you should not be doing anything by choice that could potentially have a serious impact on that.
Define what is and isnt acceptable behaviour - are you really suggesting that for 4 months the dance professionals shouldnt do anything that carries any risk and all the time they are not actively working on the show they should sit quietly in a darkened room - Are they allowed to go for a walk or a run even training has the potential for injury.

Surely she along with all the other pros are expected to perform one or even several demanding pro-dances in the last two weeks, plus appearing with all the other eliminated couples in the final. Not to mention possible appearances on ITT.

I am connected to the business and I can tell you, that this has a very dim view taken of it. If you sign a contract for a show with matinees for example, you can't suddenly announce cheerfully, 'oh I'm appearing at the Haven camp on Saturdays, do you mind if I do that instead.' You have signed a contract, that's it. You stick it out until the end, and then what you do in your time is your business.
This isnt relevant Ola didn't arrange to do something else when she was needed for strictly she was doing a bit of ski practicing when she wasn't actually needed at the studio - in her own time ! - had she not suffered an accidental injury she would have met all her commitments. Had it been a car accident or she had slipped on the stairs at home its just the same
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Old 15-12-2014, 19:09
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But that kind of makes strictly like zero hours contracts - they can reduce you down to a very minor role at any moment with hardly any notice and reduce pay accordingly, but you still have to commit every moment of your life solely to strictly.
Not at all. With zero hours contract you only get paid if you work. For Strictly the pro dancers get a fixed fee for the duration of their contract to appear in all the shows in a particular series, or at least be available to appear. They don't get pay reduced when their celeb goes out.

Ola has been paid from the first practice pro dance for the opening show until the end of the final show next week.

All of show business is like that - they negotiate a new contract for each show, be it stage shows, TV, Radio, public appearances or whatever. If no-one wants to employ them then they don't get paid. Why do you think so many actors are "resting" and working as waiters/waitresses. Some even give up altogether and go and get an ordinary job like the rest of us.
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Old 15-12-2014, 19:35
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Define what is and isnt acceptable behaviour - are you really suggesting that for 4 months the dance professionals shouldnt do anything that carries any risk and all the time they are not actively working on the show they should sit quietly in a darkened room - Are they allowed to go for a walk or a run even training has the potential for injury.



This isnt relevant Ola didn't arrange to do something else when she was needed for strictly she was doing a bit of ski practicing when she wasn't actually needed at the studio - in her own time ! - had she not suffered an accidental injury she would have met all her commitments. Had it been a car accident or she had slipped on the stairs at home its just the same
Of course you can have an accident doing anything. You could have an accident in the kitchen or falling off a step which could happen to anyone. I really don't think practising ski jumping is on the same level.

No, it was not in her own time. She is still under contract, under requirement for the show, and to go and practice an acknowledged dangerous sport especially if you have never done it before is foolish in the extreme.
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Old 15-12-2014, 19:49
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Old 15-12-2014, 19:52
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James is tweeting that she is home ...and he's flogging her calendar .lol
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Old 15-12-2014, 20:30
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No, it was not in her own time. She is still under contract, under requirement for the show, and to go and practice an acknowledged dangerous sport especially if you have never done it before is foolish in the extreme.
But it's still her own time. Her commitment to Strictly once her partner goes out must surely be the Monday rehearsals for the the group dance, Friday dress rehearsal and the show on Saturday. What she does for the other four days is nobody's business but her own - and certainly nothing the BBC can expect to control. If they wanted her contract to be exclusive, they'd have to pay her more, so I think we can be fairly confident they haven't gone down that road!
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Old 15-12-2014, 21:35
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Some pictures of Ola https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossi...123754466.html.
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Old 15-12-2014, 22:42
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Knee surgery is changing. 4 yrs ago I had major knee surgery,took a ligament from calf area and twisted it through kneecap making a figure of 8 before screwing the ligament in place. All done as a day op. Came home on crutches knee brace and an anesthetic bomb. Now almost 20 yrs ago almost same op was pit for 4 months before then op then 6 mths pot ankle to hip then intensive physio. Now as ola is a dancer she will have some great physio
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Old 15-12-2014, 22:48
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I think that operations and physio have changed over the years. A friend of mine had a total hip replacement last year and she was mobilising with crutches in the hospital on the same day as her op with a physiotherapist. A few days later she went home on crutches.

Year's ago, people spend weeks in hospital after something like that.



I think that the newspapers are over exaggerating by saying that her injuries are life changing. Surely knee ligaments are not that life changing?
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Old 15-12-2014, 22:51
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The truth is the jump is a dangerous show the winner and runner up last year were near enough the last two standing as more celebs ended up with injuries than without. She is under contract with strictly which requires her to take part in pro dances and in the final and she got injured while training and being filmed for rival channel show which is known to be dangerous. I hope she gets better soon but can understand why the producers are annoyed.
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Old 16-12-2014, 04:55
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I'd be surprised if the Strictly contract doesn't exclude her from taking on other work, ie the jump , during the strictly show period.
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Old 16-12-2014, 08:41
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what a rubbish end of the year for what probably feels like a rubbish year after her hubby
not taking it lying down when he was let go and then the bullying stuff. Hope she makes a quick recovery and however unlikely is given another year.
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Old 16-12-2014, 09:01
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We do not know what the discussions were regarding Ola and the BBC regarding the Jump nor do we know what anyone's plans or medical conditions will be next year. Discussing whether Ola will be in it next year or not is futile. The majority thought she wouldn't be in it this year and that she had antagonised the BBC to the point of not being asked back. I wouldn't trust a thing the Mail say, I'll wait until next year.

As for a cruciate, the worrying thing is that this will really hurt her dancing future. Poor Ola.
Discussion is not futile, people are entitled to discuss what they think about dancers and the future of the show, that's what this forum is for. So why do you think it's futile?
Is it futile because it doesn't accord with your view?
If that's what you believe you are under a false impression that your opinion carries any more weight than others. Perhaps a reassessment of ego is required.

She won't be back and good riddance, horrible woman.
The worrying thing is that your worried about the knee of some privileged idiotic puffed up dancing poodle.

Now I know you won't agree, but that's irrelevant to me, your opinion is futile in that respect. Do you now understand futile?
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Old 16-12-2014, 09:16
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But it's still her own time. Her commitment to Strictly once her partner goes out must surely be the Monday rehearsals for the the group dance, Friday dress rehearsal and the show on Saturday. What she does for the other four days is nobody's business but her own - and certainly nothing the BBC can expect to control. If they wanted her contract to be exclusive, they'd have to pay her more, so I think we can be fairly confident they haven't gone down that road!
What part of not fulfilling your contractual obligations is not clear? She voluntarily went and practiced a dangerous pursuit with the considerable risk of injury - even a sprained ankle would be enough to put her out - and now she cannot fulfil her side of her contract that would have been laid down from the start. It's nothing to do with it being 'exclusive' or whatever, the fact is, she along with other eliminated pros are expected to all be there and performing on the final. Ola has been very unprofessional.
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Old 16-12-2014, 09:44
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Saw some of her calendar shots.
seems very fit to me.
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Old 16-12-2014, 09:48
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I think it's very unlikely Ola's dancing career is over, she will be out of a action for a few months, then she will be back doing whatever she would have been doing if she hadn't had the accident. Footballers have ligament damage all the time, they recover, they are back playing again, I cannot envisage it is any different for dancers.
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