On here no. If you went on polls on here Pasha would be onto his third winner in four series with Caroline. His partners have consistantly been overbacked on here, and to be honest on the Internet generally.
Is this Final as One -sided as the polls on here suggest?
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Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“On here no. If you went on polls on here Pasha would be onto his third winner in four series with Caroline. His partners have consistantly been overbacked on here, and to be honest on the Internet generally.”
“On here no. If you went on polls on here Pasha would be onto his third winner in four series with Caroline. His partners have consistantly been overbacked on here, and to be honest on the Internet generally.”
I think that Caroline is being backed, everywhere.
I don't think the polls will be accurate. It was only in the QF that Frankie was bottom of the leaderboard, but didn't end up in the dance-off. That suggests a pretty hefty share of the vote that night went her way. I think her committed voting base is probably bigger than Caroline's, but there will be a lot of floating votes on the night that could go anywhere so I wouldn't count anything out - even a win for one of the guys, but that would definitely be a big suprise if that happened!
Originally Posted by dander:
“I don't think the polls will be accurate. It was only in the QF that Frankie was bottom of the leaderboard, but didn't end up in the dance-off. That suggests a pretty hefty share of the vote that night went her way. I think her committed voting base is probably bigger than Caroline's, but there will be a lot of floating votes on the night that could go anywhere so I wouldn't count anything out - even a win for one of the guys, but that would definitely be a big suprise if that happened!”
“I don't think the polls will be accurate. It was only in the QF that Frankie was bottom of the leaderboard, but didn't end up in the dance-off. That suggests a pretty hefty share of the vote that night went her way. I think her committed voting base is probably bigger than Caroline's, but there will be a lot of floating votes on the night that could go anywhere so I wouldn't count anything out - even a win for one of the guys, but that would definitely be a big suprise if that happened!”
She may have been at the bottom, but both Simon and Mark who are box office poison were above her. Their vote isn't strong, so theoretically she didn't need too much to overtake them.
I still think she has it in the bag though!
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“It's between the girls, I don't think either of the boys has any chance.
Caroline has the momentum and more wow dances than Frankie but I think an anti-Caroline vote might come into play on Saturday.
My guess is still Caroline.”
“It's between the girls, I don't think either of the boys has any chance.
Caroline has the momentum and more wow dances than Frankie but I think an anti-Caroline vote might come into play on Saturday.
My guess is still Caroline.”
Sadly I think you are right but it is very sad that the two with previous dance experience are the favourites to win. I much prefer it when someone who is an absolute beginner at the start comes through to win the trophy.
Originally Posted by Fallaway r:
“I think Caroline's definitely got it - she's winning in polls across the board. And I don't see why there'd be an "anti-Caroline" vote - there's nothing unlikeable about her.”
“I think Caroline's definitely got it - she's winning in polls across the board. And I don't see why there'd be an "anti-Caroline" vote - there's nothing unlikeable about her.”
Don't believe that someone is immune to "unlikebility". For example, it quite annoys me when she shows so much enthusiasm for absolutely everything. Zoe only need to say hello to her on ITT and Caroline starts shrieking and clapping as if she's in the National Lottery audience. That's not the behavior of anyone I know in real life. Too much media personality! (Not a bad dancer though).
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“I think that Caroline is being backed, everywhere.”
“I think that Caroline is being backed, everywhere.”
Whilst that may turn out to be true, we have to take into some sort of account that she's been in the bottom two once and that Frankie hasn't.
There again Mark & Simon have also been in the B2 and yet been popular enough to escape it the following week, so maybe I'll go back to interpreting goats' entrails...
Oh how the BBC would love an ex XFactor presenter winning, I think her and Pasha have it in the bag.
Depends who gets given what and whats available to choose of the other dances, if it starts close.
if you have great late dances and can't do them again so soon you are stuck with something else. If you can't green up for a two dance show, you can't use Wicked. If your worst dance is quite lowly marked, and dull, you are stuck with it , if the .judges pick it.
if you have great late dances and can't do them again so soon you are stuck with something else. If you can't green up for a two dance show, you can't use Wicked. If your worst dance is quite lowly marked, and dull, you are stuck with it , if the .judges pick it.
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Sadly I think you are right but it is very sad that the two with previous dance experience are the favourites to win. I much prefer it when someone who is an absolute beginner at the start comes through to win the trophy.”
“Sadly I think you are right but it is very sad that the two with previous dance experience are the favourites to win. I much prefer it when someone who is an absolute beginner at the start comes through to win the trophy.”
I agree.
I think Frankie could quite easily take it. She has never been in the bottom 2 and if they pull of amazing dances in the final then I think she's got it in the bag.
I've been rooting for Frankie from the start,a and voting for her since Judy went out(stop sniggering).
Probably means she is gonna lose now😱
Probably means she is gonna lose now😱
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Whilst that may turn out to be true, we have to take into some sort of account that she's been in the bottom two once and that Frankie hasn't.
There again Mark & Simon have also been in the B2 and yet been popular enough to escape it the following week, so maybe I'll go back to interpreting goats' entrails...”
“Whilst that may turn out to be true, we have to take into some sort of account that she's been in the bottom two once and that Frankie hasn't.
There again Mark & Simon have also been in the B2 and yet been popular enough to escape it the following week, so maybe I'll go back to interpreting goats' entrails...”
Never being in the dance off does not mean anything. Just enough votes at the right time.
If for one reason or another Caroline was knocked out in the first section I would switch to Simon.
Well, a lot of new viewers do come on board just for the Final. That's what skews the vote.
Every poll I have seen gives Caroline to win by a wide margin. I don't particularly like her. She seems very bland. I prefer Simon and Frankie. Frankie has Kevin however and he has his detractors. Quite a few people are vehemently anti-Kevin.
I'm assuming Caroline will win and I can't see Pasha choreographing a totally rubbish routine for the showdance but I'm not sure his track record is that brilliant either.
If only Trent were still in it!
Every poll I have seen gives Caroline to win by a wide margin. I don't particularly like her. She seems very bland. I prefer Simon and Frankie. Frankie has Kevin however and he has his detractors. Quite a few people are vehemently anti-Kevin.
I'm assuming Caroline will win and I can't see Pasha choreographing a totally rubbish routine for the showdance but I'm not sure his track record is that brilliant either.
If only Trent were still in it!
I would like Caroline to win but wouldn't mind Frankie or Simon winning.
I don't think it's very close between Caroline and second place but I think it's closer than people would think.
Oh and by the way, whoever you want to win MAKE SURE YOU VOTE FOR THEM!
As the judges scores won't count.
I don't think it's very close between Caroline and second place but I think it's closer than people would think.
Oh and by the way, whoever you want to win MAKE SURE YOU VOTE FOR THEM!
As the judges scores won't count.
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Well, a lot of new viewers do come on board just for the Final. That's what skews the vote.
Every poll I have seen gives Caroline to win by a wide margin. I don't particularly like her. She seems very bland. I prefer Simon and Frankie. Frankie has Kevin however and he has his detractors. Quite a few people are vehemently anti-Kevin.
I'm assuming Caroline will win and I can't see Pasha choreographing a totally rubbish routine for the showdance but I'm not sure his track record is that brilliant either.
If only Trent were still in it!”
“Well, a lot of new viewers do come on board just for the Final. That's what skews the vote.
Every poll I have seen gives Caroline to win by a wide margin. I don't particularly like her. She seems very bland. I prefer Simon and Frankie. Frankie has Kevin however and he has his detractors. Quite a few people are vehemently anti-Kevin.
I'm assuming Caroline will win and I can't see Pasha choreographing a totally rubbish routine for the showdance but I'm not sure his track record is that brilliant either.
If only Trent were still in it!”
Yep, A lot of X. Factor viewers might tune in and may vote Caroline.
This is the most fragile group of finalists ever so anything could go wrong 
The result will depend on who holds his or her nerve on the night.
The result will depend on who holds his or her nerve on the night.
Originally Posted by holly berry:
“This is the most fragile group of finalists ever so anything could go wrong The result will depend on who holds his or her nerve on the night.”
“This is the most fragile group of finalists ever so anything could go wrong
The result will depend on who holds his or her nerve on the night.”
I agree that nerves will play a vital part.
Obviously hard core fans will not change their votes but I do think this is open - it is really up for grabs on Saturday and may the best dancers win .....unless of course it is Mark,
Wasn't Susanna Reid the front runner and "impossible to beat" in some polls last year? Maybe I remembered wrongly though
I'm starting to think that the final 3 might depend on, which dances people want to, see a repeat of the most, and how they perform it.
Caroline might not have it in the bag, just yet.
Caroline might not have it in the bag, just yet.
Originally Posted by Pashulty:
“hmm.... pains me as it does.... I agree ... its Frakie's to lose”
“hmm.... pains me as it does.... I agree ... its Frakie's to lose”
No she won't win! I love how open it is this year. As much as I'd love Caroline to win (who I think has been the best overall), I would love to see Simon win against all the odds.
Originally Posted by Liliaprincess:
“No she won't win! I love how open it is this year. As much as I'd love Caroline to win (who I think has been the best overall), I would love to see Simon win against all the odds.”
“No she won't win! I love how open it is this year. As much as I'd love Caroline to win (who I think has been the best overall), I would love to see Simon win against all the odds.”
I want Simon to win, as well. Even if Simon doesn't win, I'm very happy that he made the final.
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