Was it a staggered start because I thought Pixie was going to win from my starting position.

Probably because you hadn't guessed, (though there were clues when she opened the very first show) that she also had 2 years of dance training and had 'tried out' for cats, les miserables and various other shows.Which makes her MORE trained up than pixie. Your in good company. Most of the GBP didn't know till sunday.....

The grapes are very very sour ....

I've heard about the 'dance training' but where did all this cats, les miserables, and various other shows come from? Her list seems to get added to daily. Pretty soon she'll be a prima ballerina.

Aww didums. - Sorry but all your shouting is coming across as a huge bunch of sour grapes.

Funny how it was on this very forum the whole business of Caroline's training 15 years ago being outed in the Daily Fail was discussed in depth on Saturday.

What .. fifteen years ago?? And not had a job as a dancer?? Very odd for such a dance specialist. Frankie, Simon and Pixie have been dancing as part of their job since the beginning of their careers.
The GB public would have had to be blind not to have read those spiteful ... exquisitely timed .. articles. Either on-line or in the papers. I think they helped Caroline's cause ... they were so unnecessarily nasty.
Your favourite didn't win ... you'll get over it. Hope it wasn't Frankie though who has been dancing since S Club 7 JUNIORS!! That would be too hypocritical.

This programme was probably made before she even went into Strictly. Thank goodness we don't have to endure yet another programme with the previous presenter.

The thing about Caroline presenting "Saints and Scroungers" was the invention of somebody editing Wikipedia (read: not actually true).

Like a needle stuck on a record ... it is now getting very boring.


Wholeheartedly agree, dazechain, Caroline was like a breath of fresh air, she was excellent on ITT and Caroline & Pasha had a great chemistry and above all else she was captivating to watch.


Hear, Hear. She was charming in every way, always enthusiastic and she seemed to be enjoying the experience.

It was in the SUNDAY MIRROR...DO TRY TO KEEP UP!! hear that kristina previously did some training with her for that other dance show she was ...bloody hell how come this stuff didn't come out at the same time that pixie was being slaughtered? And why, in comparison?

btw...I hope none of of you lot were in any way responsible for the vile attacks on natalie last year re-dance training.....now that would be a trite 2 faced wouldn't it...a bit like Olly Murs in fact....

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to that particular factual magazine. I only read VIZ and Take A Break after the wife's finished with it.

LOL it was in the Sunday Mirror. Well it MUST be true then. Quoting trash tabloid newspapers as fact is not a good idea.

This is the same media that informed us we were 45 minutes from destruction. I don't even trust them to get the date right.

Take That's "dancing" on the BBC music awards blows that out of the water.

Missed that one, but was unfortunate enought to witness their efforts in the Strictly Final Show. Embarrassing or what?

I didn't notice them in the final show, I was watching the pros.

I'm easily distracted. No attention span, you see.

It was pretty bad in the music awards though.

And as far as I'm aware Blue didn't have too much dancing in their performances anyway. Barring that first single.

I've seen several boy band members on chat show and suchlike later in their careers, declaring that they couldn't dance and only shuffled about on stage.

It doesn't matter. They did routines and they danced .. so saying he had no dance training is untrue for we've all seen the footage of pop/boy/girl bands in the dance studios with choreographers. He liked to put his own moves into the routines with Kristina .. body popping and the like and as any dance training for the girls means they must be fully trained in latin and ballroom then I don't know why he should be viewed any differently.

Maybe I'm wrong but working with choreographer is a lot different from actually going to a dance school and undertaking a formal course. As far as am aware, a lot of Blue songs are quite slow so they didn't have a lot of need to work with a choreographer. Simon is completely different from Caroline because she actually did a proper course.

All dancers are equal .. but some are more equal than others??!!
Caroline's course was fifteen years ago and she hasn't been hired as a dancer since .. as such how much of that would she have retained and why on earth did she not pursue a career in dance immediately? If it was because she wasn't good enough then enough said.

Anyway, my answer was to someone who said that Simon had had no dance training which is untrue in my view. But .. I'm one of those people that .. unless they were knees up Mother Browning it recently in the West End .. couldn't give a stuff about previous dance training which is usually used as a stick to beat celebs with when the real reason is just pure old dislike.

Every year there are conspiracy theories abound about whoever the winner is. No one is forced to vote & I don't buy that only the Caroline supporters were duped by some subliminal persuasion from the BBC, while the other celeb supporters all realised the cheeky BBC's techniques.

Well done Caroline! She became my favourite celeb about the half way through this series because it was beautiful to see her improve. I am also thrilled for Pasha who is a delightful dancer & choreographer. Well deserved win for both (just in case I hadn't made that clear)
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Kyran Bracken did body popping in one of his Dancing on Ice routines, it doesn't mean he had dance or skating training because he already knew how to do it.

I think Caroline deserved her win and I don't really care if she had training or not but there's no need for other celebrities to be bashed. In one of the other threads there was someone saying that Louis had plenty of prior experience of dancing and performing as he was a gymnast despite a. Never competing in the floor element of gymnastics (which isn't dancing anyway) and b. Being absolutely slaughtered by the judges over lack of performance skills in the show.

Yep, but it's all swings and roundabouts....from what I remember Louis did have an above average amount of gymnastics in some of his routines...an element that often, for some inexplicable reason, seems to go down a storm with judges and the Strictly audience .. notably Mark got huge cheers for doing a run of the mill cartwheel in the final, just why any one wants to see gymnastics in a dance routine is a mystery to me but hey-ho.

Perhaps their supporters were influenced by "subliminal" persuasion too. It's in the nature of the subliminal that you're not consciously aware of it.


Note how Caroline was seen as having that sort of "journey". Perhaps if people had known more about her prior training, it wouldn't have seemed to plausible.