Janette the one female pro at the moment who is not a ballroom dancer (she's a Salsa dancer). Ola on the other hand has been complimented by the judges for her choreography, particularly for matching it to their ability. I don't think her choreography is crummy, but on the other hand she sticks to the rules and that doesn't matter to lots of posters on here. I don't know whether you are okay with rule breaking or not.

What on earth has football got to do with it, and why would you think she is a supporter?

There are some of us who couldn't care less about football and have never supported a team in their life.

That was a bit aggressive don't you think? I feel the same way but there are far more polite ways of expressing your opinion.

What would this forum do without the smiley, eh?

Personally, I think Jay can do very well - and barring something going very wrong or him having a lot of unexpected competition - I think he will, no matter his partner. But then again I'm basing that on my estimations of his existing popularity and dance ability, rather than what he can bring in a couple.

I was not being aggressive, just bewildered why so many think that everyone is as obsessed with football as they are.

Oops. Sorry there must have been a misunderstanding. I completely understand where you were coming from now.

It really isn't about rule breaking; it's about creativity and interesting choreography. She tends to rehash her routines and as others have mentioned you do see the same moves/steps appear again and again. Ola, Karen and new girl Otlile aside, there's still three pros Jay wouldn't 'need to avoid' because they are ballroom trained. I deliberately left Janette out because I think she's unpredictable and capable of the sublime and a head-scratcher moment.

Perhaps because Jamelia's ex husband was a footballer and she famously got into one of her infamous public spats about WAGS with Alex Gerrard......the more I find out about Jamelia the more I'm looking forward to seeing her on strictly

I thought the poster's musings were harmless enough.

I don't know that Karen's background is all that more "auspicious" to be honest. They both seem to have been general stage school dancers until their early 20s, when they started taking ballroom classes. Besides, I'm not sure it matters in terms of success - most people I see who have (or affect) technical expertise would have Pasha as the weakest of the male pro line-up at classic "ballroom" by some margin, and Caroline never really got the basics of those dances completely down (witness : that awful semi-final foxtrot) and she still won.

Darren Gough never got the basics of dance down, and he won.

*muppetgate.

I think I get what you mean. Ola does use a lot of the same moves, although playing devil's advocate she does what she knows will work to keep her celeb in the competition. I like recognising the steps/moves relevant to each dance and you get that with Ola. However, I would like to see her with a partner with dance experience (like Jay) to see what she comes up with.


To be honest, all I go by is how they danced professionally before they joined the show and despite having no knowledge of dance other than what I've picked up over the years from the show, ITT and on here, for some illogical reason I consider the pros who don't come from the ballroom world less qualified!

I think with Caroline it was less "Pasha can't teach her", and more "Caroline isn't a natural at Ballroom hold"; she got all her Ballrooms bar the Tango & Quickstep (both a bit atypical in terms of smooth Ballroom) late in the series, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) pros spend a few hours each week practicing basics for dances already done (Ballroom hold, hip-action etc), which'd hopefully be consolidated in later weeks - with Caroline, the consolidation just started really, really late, and I don't think, ringer or not, she ever got the chance to catch up. I mean, her first soft, slow Ballroom was her Waltz... Week 7.

Last year the dance allocation was bazaar at best. Pixie went 8-9 weeks without any "show dances" (Salsa, American Smooth, Charleston and Argentine Tango). So did Caroline. There needs to be more variation in the allocation this year. Take out a couple of Charlestons and replace them with Argentine Tango, Don't use up the Tango by week 10, spread the Cha Cha Cha and Waltz out over the series instead of going 6-7 weeks between them so the public can see a brilliant technical Cha Cha Cha and Waltz rather them being seen as Week 1 fodder, Organise the Semi Final dances better by maybe having a couple of Agentine Tangos like years ago. I think shows run better when there is versatility.

Like Topaz said she was married to Darren Byfield did not know she had an incident with Alex Gerrard though!, I was just making a point wish I had never bothered sorry if I offended you in any way.

I find Karen really hard to watch, to be honest. From the top of the legs up, she is fine but from there down I just find her really ungainly. I can pick her out in the group dances purely by her feet. She really does have the most undancery set of uprights I think I've seen.

If the relevant move is pivot, starfish, knee slide

I agree with this completely and I remember one year everyone had done the Cha Cha Cha by Week 4! I don't like how the Charleston has become the preferential favoured dance - it would be nice for at least one of the finalists not to have done it. I wish they would ensure all the finalists had at least done the traditional 10 by introducing 2 dances per week earlier. I'm still reeling that Kimberly didn't do the Rumba - such a wasted opportunity because she would have been hot!

Ola and Spoony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dy0WiGg2NM

A Tango to traditional Tango music and if Spoony hadn't made a mistake, he might have survived past that week. It was Ola's first year and Spoony's first ever Ballroom dance.
Not smiling after the mistake would have helped, but it was his first mistake and his last.

You've got nothing to be sorry for. I found your post interesting

Jameilia's comments about some WAGS were spot on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ng-attack.html

Although perhaps she shouldn't have made it quite so personal about Alex Gerrard. I love that Jamelia is controversial and I'm looking forward to seeing her on strictly.

Thanks Topaz and any way I would like to know if Jamelia has ever attended College on a Fashion Design/Textiles/Interior Design course due to her plus size clothing comments, I would go on it as I already have the following relevant qualifications GNVQ Business Studies, GCSE Textiles, OCN Levels 1 and 2 Floristry and an NCFE Level 3 Flower Arranging as I am currently unemployed and design courses are the only think that suit me as I lack academic skills, but feel that I may be a bit to old for College as I will be 30 in October (The Halloween show will be my 30th Birthay party as my birthday is on the Wednesday before).

Forgot to say the only reason I have not set up a Floristry business is because it is to wasteful in terms of stock/accounts.

Jamelia's background is singing so I doubt she's been to fashion college - I wouldn't be surprised if she has a strong interest in fashion though as many people in the entertainment industry do. She seems more famous for making controversial statements as a panelist on Loose Women now.

If you want to do a fashion course then I say go for it - it's never too late to learn. 30 is not old either

That'll do me nicely!

Personally I preferred it when the number of dances was limited in the first few weeks of each series because it gave us more chance to compare like with like. It gave viewers a chance to judge who might have prospects and who was doomed.

The change to mixing up the dances every week was a bad one in my opinion, because it gave even more scope for viewers to think some celebs were getting an easier ride than others. In the early series when pre-series training was longer, it was quite common for pros to spend a lot of the time teaching basics and only teaching the choreography for their first dance nearer the show (with good celebs starting to learn their second dance).

Now it's two dances in the first weekend, which is fine, but the dances allocated can put some less able/experienced celebs at a disadvantage so early on.

Like I stated in the songs thread Jamelia should dance to that new song called Shut Up and Dance by Walk The Moon.

It turns out the contestant who had a friend in common with Tess was Kellie! This article has the information:http://tv.bt.com/tv/tv-news/strictly...11364001176522