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Judges choice should be renamed to Redemption Dance
Don't bother renaming it, just get rid of it. Let the couples choose their own favourite ballroom and favourite latin dance to perform in the final to go with their showdance. That way we might get a much better final 
They used it to choose weakest dances apart from Simon who they gave the breakthrough chance to. They must have really thought they needed to throw him a bone to make it into a competition.
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“They used it to choose weakest dances apart from Simon who they gave the breakthrough chance to. They must have really thought they needed to throw him a bone to make it into a competition.”
“They used it to choose weakest dances apart from Simon who they gave the breakthrough chance to. They must have really thought they needed to throw him a bone to make it into a competition.”
Caroline didn't do her weakest dance... in fact only Frankie was given her worst
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“They used it to choose weakest dances apart from Simon who they gave the breakthrough chance to. They must have really thought they needed to throw him a bone to make it into a competition.”
“They used it to choose weakest dances apart from Simon who they gave the breakthrough chance to. They must have really thought they needed to throw him a bone to make it into a competition.”
I thought that too - not really fair on the others
Originally Posted by foxyred:
“Caroline didn't do her weakest dance... in fact only Frankie was given her worst”
“Caroline didn't do her weakest dance... in fact only Frankie was given her worst
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That wasn't even her worst dance though, she got pretty good scores first time round. If memory serves it was a couple of 8s and a 9, and as for the much cited Craig comment, his 7 was hardly an awful mark. She got quite a sensible pick from the judges - something which was a good dance with room for improvement.
In previous years they've generally chosen something that was good the first time but they felt could be improved on (the exception being Susanna's Quickstep last year which they wanted to see without it being crap). I found the choices this year rather bizarre and not particularly interesting to watch, which was only exacerbated by the choice to not announce them ahead of time.
There was no consistant logic to the choices. Caroline was given cha cha because it was her lowest scoring dance, Frankie was given samba because of the obvious mistakes she could correct, Mark was given cha cha so he could show his journey, and Simon got Charleston because it was a breakthrough. It's no wonder such a lot of conspiracy twaddle has sprung up around it because the show seemed to have literally no clue what the point of the round even was. The choice for Frankie seemed the closest to the idea of the round as I'd like to see it, if they're going to do it, but it's clearly a nonsense.
I think the finalists should be given a dance that suited them from the first few weeks but have to perform a new version with new music.
Caroline could still have got the cha cha, Frankie the waltz, Simon the Viennese Waltz or jive and Mark could have got the American Smooth or Quickstep. All dances that scored a maximum of 30 first time round but which, arguably, would have been high scorers for all concerned had they been done later.
This way, they improve and really get a chance to show how much they've learnt as the new routine should be more complicated and much better performed. If they fluff it, tough. Nobody said the final should be easy.
Caroline could still have got the cha cha, Frankie the waltz, Simon the Viennese Waltz or jive and Mark could have got the American Smooth or Quickstep. All dances that scored a maximum of 30 first time round but which, arguably, would have been high scorers for all concerned had they been done later.
This way, they improve and really get a chance to show how much they've learnt as the new routine should be more complicated and much better performed. If they fluff it, tough. Nobody said the final should be easy.
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“There was no consistant logic to the choices. Caroline was given cha cha because it was her lowest scoring dance, Frankie was given samba because of the obvious mistakes she could correct, Mark was given cha cha so he could show his journey, and Simon got Charleston because it was a breakthrough. It's no wonder such a lot of conspiracy twaddle has sprung up around it because the show seemed to have literally no clue what the point of the round even was. The choice for Frankie seemed the closest to the idea of the round as I'd like to see it, if they're going to do it, but it's clearly a nonsense.”
“There was no consistant logic to the choices. Caroline was given cha cha because it was her lowest scoring dance, Frankie was given samba because of the obvious mistakes she could correct, Mark was given cha cha so he could show his journey, and Simon got Charleston because it was a breakthrough. It's no wonder such a lot of conspiracy twaddle has sprung up around it because the show seemed to have literally no clue what the point of the round even was. The choice for Frankie seemed the closest to the idea of the round as I'd like to see it, if they're going to do it, but it's clearly a nonsense.”
I thought the choices were poor simply because we had a final that was almost all latin and no real ballroom, apart from Frankie's.So it was unbalanced and more like a talent contest.
That as well. It would have been so easy to get, say Simon's Viennese Waltz (in the bottom 2 with it, has improved immeasurably in ballroom technique since) in and fit the criteria of the round but NO, we have to see another bloody Charleston apparently.
If we were to apply each of the different approaches consistently, then we get:
Lowest scoring dance: Caroline's Cha-Cha-Cha, Frankie's Waltz or Charleston, Mark's Cha-Cha-Cha, Simon's Rumba
Mistakes to correct: Caroline's American Smooth, Frankie's Samba, no clue for Mark, Simon's... Paso maybe?
Journey: Caroline's Cha-Cha-Cha, Frankie's Cha-Cha-Cha or Foxtrot maybe?, Mark's Cha-Cha-Cha, Simon's Jive probably
Breakthrough: Anything Caroline did between weeks 2 and 5 probably or her Jive, Frankie's Paso or Tango, Mark's Samba or Jive (maybe QS at a push), Simon's Charleston
In 2011 they chose two dances that had scored 39 to begin with and had been done just two or three weeks earlier plus one which had scored 36 in week 3, in 2012 it would seem to be the 'breakthrough' approach and in 2013 it was three dances that were good the first time but could be improved (two of which hailed from week one and the other from week 10) plus one that had been completely botched the first time around.
And in 2010 it was the couples' highest scoring dance by default, which to be honest strikes me as probably the best way if they're really going to pretend there's any kind of logic to this and would have left us with Caroline's salsa, Frankie's VW or AT, Mark's Charleston and Simon's AT, Waltz or Foxtrot.
Lowest scoring dance: Caroline's Cha-Cha-Cha, Frankie's Waltz or Charleston, Mark's Cha-Cha-Cha, Simon's Rumba
Mistakes to correct: Caroline's American Smooth, Frankie's Samba, no clue for Mark, Simon's... Paso maybe?
Journey: Caroline's Cha-Cha-Cha, Frankie's Cha-Cha-Cha or Foxtrot maybe?, Mark's Cha-Cha-Cha, Simon's Jive probably
Breakthrough: Anything Caroline did between weeks 2 and 5 probably or her Jive, Frankie's Paso or Tango, Mark's Samba or Jive (maybe QS at a push), Simon's Charleston
In 2011 they chose two dances that had scored 39 to begin with and had been done just two or three weeks earlier plus one which had scored 36 in week 3, in 2012 it would seem to be the 'breakthrough' approach and in 2013 it was three dances that were good the first time but could be improved (two of which hailed from week one and the other from week 10) plus one that had been completely botched the first time around.
And in 2010 it was the couples' highest scoring dance by default, which to be honest strikes me as probably the best way if they're really going to pretend there's any kind of logic to this and would have left us with Caroline's salsa, Frankie's VW or AT, Mark's Charleston and Simon's AT, Waltz or Foxtrot.
