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Old 21-12-2014, 22:18
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Surprised this hasn't been brought up on the show...


A one-size-fits-all approach just doesn’t work when it comes to nude tights, traditional ‘nude’ tights have made darker skin colours appear too light and distorted the natural look of the legs. We reckon that our new nude tights will appeal to women of all ethnicities and ages.
And their cost? £3.50 a pair.

http://thedailydebrief.debenhams.com...our-skin-tone/
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:20
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well that blows that market
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:23
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well that blows that market
I don't how good they are (don't wear tights... in public ) but just found it searching for Bianca's brand in curiosity if she had set up a website (doesn't seem so...)
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:25
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Bianca is clueless. £35 for bucket died cheap tights.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:27
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Not a surprise really. It's not that retailers didn't think of it before, they were just too expensive to manufacture because of the variations. Remember that each skin tone will also need slightly different packaging too.

So if you have 15 colours in small, medium and large, that is 45 products and 45 different packets. Incredibly expensive.

You would need a retailer the size of Debenhams with it's buying power to even contemplate it.

A stupid idea that was not a good investment.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:31
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Not a surprise really. It's not that retailers didn't think of it before, they were just too expensive to manufacture because of the variations. Remember that each skin tone will also need slightly different packaging too.

So if you have 15 colours in small, medium and large, that is 45 products and 45 different packets. Incredibly expensive.

You would need a retailer the size of Debenhams with it's buying power to even contemplate it.

A stupid idea that was not a good investment.
You don't need different packaging for each colour, the clear window at the top of the packet would show the colour and the specific name of the colour and specific size is usually just a sticky label attached to generic packaging. You'd only need different packaging for different deniers.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:32
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Even if there is a gap in the market for skin tone tights, is there actually much demand for it? Is it actually high up on the list of things to buy for women? Could it be that the gap is there because there isn't really a market for it?
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:33
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Hey, if it worked for Spanx lady, it would work for Bianca. Add some shaping into it, lower the price and it would work and sell imo.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:34
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You don't need different packaging for each colour, the clear window at the top of the packet would show the colour and the specific name of the colour and specific size is usually just a sticky label attached to generic packaging. You'd only need different packaging for different deniers.
Fair point, but the premise remains the same.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:37
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Even if there is a gap in the market for skin tone tights, is there actually much demand for it? Is it actually high up on the list of things to buy for women? Could it be that the gap is there because there isn't really a market for it?
There is a definate market for what she is proposing.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:38
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I did think it was rather bizarre no one would've thought of her idea before but it's still not a very crowded market.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:39
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https://www.nubianskin.com/hosiery/tights
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:40
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Fair point, but the premise remains the same.
I do agree, 45 products is an awful lot of space in a store and potentially a lot of unsold returns. I'd have thought it would be something that is perfect for an online product really.

I did think it was a very good idea though.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:41
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I think it is a fantastic idea. A bit like true match foundation... I would be willing to pay a lot of money for a pair of tights that were a perfect match... wouldn't do it very often though only for really special occasions.

A great idea but might be costly unless you're only selling to people with that kind of money
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:42
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She threw her chances away tonight by refusing to listen to her team, market research people and industry experts. I understand that she is passionate about the product and has always had visions of it being a high end thing but everyone kept telling her that she was going in the wrong direction. Someone might pay 20 odd quid for tights if they were made by a well known brand that had been around for years but even then I can't see many people forking out that much money for something that might only last a few weeks.
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Old 21-12-2014, 22:42
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Hey, if it worked for Spanx lady, it would work for Bianca. Add some shaping into it, lower the price and it would work and sell imo.
Totally agreed
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Old 21-12-2014, 23:33
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I think that her range was FAR too extensive. But surely the best way to flog such a product would be online, not in shops? The whole range could be available then. Other niche hosiery ranges are sold online, eg support stockings as these need to be very accurately sized.
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Old 21-12-2014, 23:44
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I did a quick search during tonight's episode and found another site doing skin tone tights too. With the price mark Bianca was looking for, even buying from abroad was cheaper. That said though the tight I found had no control top.
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:06
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tights are so cheap to manufacture, how on earth did she get the £35 in her head?

Don't tights have very short useful life too where they get holes in them and have to be thrown out?
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:13
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I've just written about these in another thread! Bianca's £20 or even £7.99 for a pair of her tights is just ridiculous...
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:18
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Surprised this hasn't been brought up on the show...



And their cost? £3.50 a pair.

http://thedailydebrief.debenhams.com...our-skin-tone/
Don't see much of a colour range there and nothing at £3.50. A spoiler possibly. What they plan to buy in and what they currently offer are two different things.
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:26
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As soon as she decided to stick to her guns and not lower the price to under 20 quid I knew she was a goner. People MIGHT fork out that amount if the brand were well known or high end designer but for a new business set up that no one has heard of before it was far too risky. I think she had it in her head that she wanted uber professional city working women/rich women with money to throw around buying them and she didn't want her product to be something that your average working class woman could afford to buy, it felt a little elitist in a way and that disappointed me.
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:31
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BIanca went into the final without knowing how much she was going to charge.
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:32
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Bianca is clueless. £35 for bucket died cheap tights.
She wasn't selling dyed tights. Do try and keep up.
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Old 22-12-2014, 00:58
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Don't see much of a colour range there and nothing at £3.50. A spoiler possibly. What they plan to buy in and what they currently offer are two different things.
It's not a spoiler. That article was from October 2011
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