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Nowhere is safe anymore day or night.
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Isn't there access on Hannover street (or something like that) directly across from Queen Street station? I went to the union a few times during the 90s and that's where the access to the union was then. Maybe it moved. Maybe I was so drunk at those times that my memory is shot.
It matters not anyway - my point was about how dangerous that particularly street (North Hannover) could be due to the combination of very steep hill and lots of people at the bottom and that it's probably not the best street to have buses on.
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Depending on how bright the lights are, perhaps it means the police can continue examining the area for debris/skid marks/evidence overnight rather than having to suspend everything until tomorrow morning. Just a thought.
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If you go straight down the hill from the Union you will end up in the courtyard of the city chambers then into John St. I worked in Cafe Rouge there many years ago and went to Strathclyde uni too
![]() I wasn't trying to make a big point about where the union was but more about the safety aspect of the street I was trying to identify - seems more pertinent to the topic. Have you any thoughts on that? |
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Millennium Hotel, which it hit, which looks like thishttp://www.taste-of-scotland.com/pho...nium_hotel.jpg |
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No doubt you are correct. I wasn't trying to make a big point about where the union was but more about the safety aspect of the street I was trying to identify. Have you any thoughts on that?
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Millennium Hotel, which it hit, which looks like this
http://www.taste-of-scotland.com/pho...nium_hotel.jpg |
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Agreed. The mods have acted very quickly in this instance and with good reason.
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Will the ice skating and wheel be closed till after Christmas? Suppose that would be the right thing to do
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Not especially as it's never been an accident blackspot, one tragic incident doesn't mean the whole layout is wrong.
I can see significant safety risk myself. We're lucky if we haven't had many accidents. At the least, I'd put a significant crash barrier at the bottom of the hill because I would struggle to think of a worse place to have an out of control vehicle. |
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Millennium Hotel, which it hit, which looks like this
http://www.taste-of-scotland.com/pho...nium_hotel.jpg |
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Steep hill, single driver of multi-ton vehicle, many passengers, heading down to square filled with kids and shoppers.
I can see significant safety risk myself. We're lucky if we haven't had many accidents. |
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Actually thinking about it now - the street I mention which is a giant hill is used by masses of buses from Buchanan Street station. If a bus driver ever took a heart attack you'd be talking massive casualties because you'd have the passengers and then the scenario that you'd be travelling head on down a steep hill with ahead of you lots of families at whatever funfair or ice rink is in George Square at the time. And then there's the size of the bus.
I think George Square might need to rethink it's design a bit. |
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Depending on how bright the lights are, perhaps it means the police can continue examining the area for debris/skid marks/evidence overnight rather than having to suspend everything until tomorrow morning. Just a thought.
![]() In the great scheme of things the reason why they want to keep the lights on is probably not important but I did wonder why. |
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I don't think buses usually come down North Hanover Street, do they? Cos of the one-way system, it's easier for them to go along to Renfield Street and down there. And they only go up North Frederick Street.
I remember because when I was on the bus I'd often wish they would miss out the round George Square bit and just go direct to the bus station! The bus routes have probably changed though. I'm old. |
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I'd need to get out google maps but when I was a student the X1 bus (primarily students) from Lanarkshire area would turn off the motorway and pass the hospital on the left, then straight down the street with Strathclyde uni buildings either side, then turn left down the street with the side entrance into queen street station (the street I was saying seemed quite dangerous because of the steep incline, etc) which looked directly down onto George Square, then go around George Square, up a block or two, then up the hill towards Buchanan Street station.
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Any time you have a large vehicle you have the potential for a loss of life if there is a medical problem with the driver. It could equally have happened to a HGV truck or National Express bus on the motorway. In fact, such accidents on the motorways are so common that 6 deaths in a road collision would make the news but it wouldn't get the blanket coverage that we saw the afternoon. What made this so unusual was that it happened in a shopping area.
This is a terrible hill though. You need to see it to believe it. If I could choose one place not to have an out of control bus (for example) in a built up area it would be on the top of that hill pointing down into George Square. In this particular event it doesn't seem to have been an issue as it's up a bit and coming from the other direction (well, it seemed that way to me but as I've proven my direction sense isn't 20/20). I was just making the point that the layout didn't seem great to me. |
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Hate to think what 6 families are going through tonight so close to Xmas.
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Yeah, agreed.
This is a terrible hill though. You need to see it to believe it. If I could choose one place not to have an out of control bus (for example) it would be on the top of that hill pointig down into George Square. |
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Which has never (to my knowledge) happened and didn't happen today.
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Hate to think what 6 families are going through tonight so close to Xmas.
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Proactive vs reactive. What works best?
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I'd need to get out google maps but when I was a student the X1 bus (primarily students) from Lanarkshire area would turn off the motorway and pass the hospital on the left, then straight down the street with Strathclyde uni buildings either side, then turn left down the street with the side entrance into queen street station (the street I was saying seemed quite dangerous because of the steep incline, etc) which looked directly down onto George Square, then go around George Square, up a block or two, then up the hill towards Buchanan Street station.
I remember because when I was on the bus I'd often wish they would miss out the round George Square bit and just go direct to the bus station! The bus routes have probably changed though. I'm old. |
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Amongst all the arguing, I was trying to find out about what would have happened if it had actually hit the pillars it got wedged against.And how did it not hit any other vehicles down the road, other then the car it crushed? |
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