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Old 22-12-2014, 23:26
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No, the council turned the Christmas lights off as "a mark of respect", after being harangued into doing so by the hand-wringing busybodies on Twitter. Probably the same type that demanded that the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London be kept in the ground for a few extra weeks, despite not even having purchased one. They love the cheap token acts made by others, but never spend any of their own time or money in contributing to the cause.

The lights should have been kept on, especially when there are still children's bodies at the scene - if I were one of their relatives, I would have found it comforting that they had the colourful lights shining beside them.
The council offered to switch the lights off out of respect but the brightness was helping the emergency crews so were left on for some time , but I think it is probably better they go off for a while as handwringers to one side that means it will be more difficult for any pap or onlooker to take clear photos of any body being removed and put it online, and they would do and that's awful for the families.

Such a terrible thing to happen, especially at this time of year , losing anyone is always awful but close to Christmas time which is meant to be happy and fun , when you have bought their presents which will never get opened it is just so much more sad. My thoughts go to all affected by this.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:28
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Not confirmed officially, but eyewitnesses report "small children" as being among the victims.
Yes those kind of reports are similar to Sky whose reputation for wanting to be 'first in' is well known and you have to take their 'news' reports with a pinch of salt.

For example the Sky News site is quoted;

She continued: "When something is coming up behind them like that, how can they run out of the way? It's such a horrific thing. There was noise and bangs and screams.

"There was a baby in a buggy. There were actually two little kids. It was just horrific."
only to then say later on....

"People were just in shock, just standing about screaming. A mother with her baby in the pram fainted. Apparently the lorry had just missed her and her child."
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:28
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I've just read an article in the Scottish Record. I can't believe how graphically they've described it, it's reduced me to tears. One witness has said the mother and baby in the pram had died, another witness has given details of seeing a pregnant woman being given cpr. Just heartbreaking.

Re Christmas lights, now I watch a lot of criminal minds, so may be waaaay off the mark here. But could they have kept them on to help with eye witness statements? A psychological memory trigger so to speak?
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:28
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Don't know which direction the lorry was coming from
Ah, I meant before that i.e. whether it had been coming straight up from Argyle St or if it had just turned from Ingram St (in which case I can't see it building up all that much speed).
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:31
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Not confirmed officially, but eyewitnesses report "small children" as being among the victims.
I seen that report but it could also possibly mean they were injured or nearly hit, I do hope the latter.

There is a twitter picture doing the rounds (Ross Loraine of Sunderland) who has been vile about the victims and it seems the police will be paying him a visit shortly (if they haven't already done so). One of the responses to his post was from a girl who says she was there today and had a woman die at her feet whilst she tried tending to her and her young daughter was standing shocked and lost looking beside her.....poor young girl
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:31
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One woman witness who spoke on Channel4 News who had managed to calm herself enough after the initial shock spoke of the surreal surroundings...people lying in the road whilst Christmas lights flickered merrily away in the background.

I think the emergency services have done the right thing in switching the lights off. They aren't necessary.
That must have been so awful for her as a witness no, your right it does seem appropriate especially in the immediate aftermath. The lights at this moment in time are better turned off.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:31
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Don't think so. Haven't seen anything on Twitter haranguing the council about lights either...
Here, here, here, here, here, here and here, to show but a few...
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:35
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Ah, I meant before that i.e. whether it had been coming straight up from Argyle St or if it had just turned from Ingram St (in which case I can't see it building up all that much speed).
I don't know how the road is at all but a truck of that weight/size would only need the slightest of inclines for it to gain considerable momentum just from free wheeling, but it was being driven at the time and it appears (still not confirmed) that the driver had a heart attack as witnesses described seeing him slumped over the wheel.

Even at 20mph that truck would be capable of doing the damage it's done.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:37
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I seen that report but it could also possibly mean they were injured or nearly hit, I do hope the latter.

There is a twitter picture doing the rounds (Ross Loraine of Sunderland) who has been vile about the victims and it seems the police will be paying him a visit shortly (if they haven't already done so). One of the responses to his post was from a girl who says she was there today and had a woman die at her feet whilst she tried tending to her and her young daughter was standing shocked and lost looking beside her.....poor young girl
Oh No! That poor child. How will she ever get over seeing that. My sympathies as well to all those people who have witnessed these horrific scenes.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:37
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I seen that report but it could also possibly mean they were injured or nearly hit, I do hope the latter.

There is a twitter picture doing the rounds (Ross Loraine of Sunderland) who has been vile about the victims and it seems the police will be paying him a visit shortly (if they haven't already done so). One of the responses to his post was from a girl who says she was there today and had a woman die at her feet whilst she tried tending to her and her young daughter was standing shocked and lost looking beside her.....poor young girl
Oh he's been named and shamed for a good few hours Maids.

His comment

So a bin lorry has crashed into 100 people in Glasgow

Probably the most trash it has picked up in one day is that


and poor lass
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:37
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No, the council turned the Christmas lights off as "a mark of respect", after being harangued into doing so by the hand-wringing busybodies on Twitter. Probably the same type that demanded that the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London be kept in the ground for a few extra weeks, despite not even having purchased one. They love the cheap token acts made by others, but never spend any of their own time or money in contributing to the cause.

The lights should have been kept on, especially when there are still children's bodies at the scene - if I were one of their relatives, I would have found it comforting that they had the colourful lights shining beside them.
They wanted to switch them off early, but the police told them to leave them on to help in their inquiries.

At 9:30pm Glasgow City Council tweeted:

We're now switching off Christmas lights in #GeorgeSquare as a mark of respect. Police are content with this.
9:30 PM - 22 Dec 2014
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:40
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I seen that report but it could also possibly mean they were injured or nearly hit, I do hope the latter.

There is a twitter picture doing the rounds (Ross Loraine of Sunderland) who has been vile about the victims and it seems the police will be paying him a visit shortly (if they haven't already done so). One of the responses to his post was from a girl who says she was there today and had a woman die at her feet whilst she tried tending to her and her young daughter was standing shocked and lost looking beside her.....poor young girl
Why would the police be paying them a visit? It's a joke, albeit a not very funny and a very poorly timed one, hardly something worth wasting police time over.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:41
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I don't know how the road is at all but a truck of that weight/size would only need the slightest of inclines for it to gain considerable momentum just from free wheeling, but it was being driven at the time and it appears (still not confirmed) that the driver had a heart attack as witnesses described seeing him slumped over the wheel.

Even at 20mph that truck would be capable of doing the damage it's done.
If anything it's ever so slightly uphill. For the sake of argument it's pretty much flat from GOMA to Queen Street Station.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:41
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Your definition of haranguing is a lot politer than mine, then.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:43
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I seen that report but it could also possibly mean they were injured or nearly hit, I do hope the latter.

There is a twitter picture doing the rounds (Ross Loraine of Sunderland) who has been vile about the victims and it seems the police will be paying him a visit shortly (if they haven't already done so). One of the responses to his post was from a girl who says she was there today and had a woman die at her feet whilst she tried tending to her and her young daughter was standing shocked and lost looking beside her.....poor young girl



There just aren't any words for that. Just a child, and life spoiled forever in a few seconds.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:43
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Why would the police be paying them a visit? It's a joke, albeit a very poorly timed one, hardly something worth wasting police time over.
There has been a huge backlash against him on Twitter, some people have even managed to get hold of his address.

I don't condone this retaliation but I can't say I have much sympathy for what happens to him.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:48
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I don't condone this retaliation but I can't say I have much sympathy for what happens to him.
So if some idiot decides to take it up on themselves to hospitalise, or worse, this person over something as petty as posting an insensitive and poorly timed 'joke' on the internet you'll be OK with that?
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:51
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There has been a huge backlash against him on Twitter, some people have even managed to get hold of his address.

I don't condone this retaliation but I can't say I have much sympathy for what happens to him.
He will be regretting his total idiocy now.

But he has no one to blame but himself the w****r.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:52
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If anything it's ever so slightly uphill. For the sake of argument it's pretty much flat from GOMA to Queen Street Station.
I was thinking the same. It's why when I initially heard I'd assumed the accident had happened going from Cathedral Street down into George Square rather than this which is coming up Queen Street. I guess heart attack and foot jammed on the accelerator seems most likely given what we've heard so far. I kind of hope for the driver's sake that this is what happened because then at least he has no blame and it's just a tragic accident.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:53
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Did anyone else see the vile tweet from someone called Ross Loraine?
He said "That's the most rubbish that bin lorry has ever collected".

It's doing the rounds on Facebook and he's now deleted his twitter account.

Utter prick.


Edit - sorry, I see it's already been discussed. Still, what a hateful bastard. I hope he's thoroughly ashamed of himself.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:55
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Why would the police be paying them a visit? It's a joke, albeit a not very funny and a very poorly timed one, hardly something worth wasting police time over.
They might be nipping over to make sure he's safe. You'd be surprised at what can happen from haphazard remarks on media.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:57
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Oh he's been named and shamed for a good few hours Maids.

His comment

So a bin lorry has crashed into 100 people in Glasgow

Probably the most trash it has picked up in one day is that


and poor lass
This is where social media users really let themselves down big time. This is why every single man on the street is now either a 'pervert' or 'Paedo'.

The best sentence they can give this Twitter Twit (i would use another term but it's no printable), is to force him to stand in the city centre every Saturday for five years with a sign around his neck.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:58
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Why would the police be paying them a visit? It's a joke, albeit a not very funny and a very poorly timed one, hardly something worth wasting police time over.
Northumbria Police are looking into it. The comment was exceptionally tasteless and, IMO, vile but surely it's not a police matter, ffs.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:59
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So if some idiot decides to take it up on themselves to hospitalise, or worse, this person over something as petty as posting an insensitive and poorly timed 'joke' on the internet you'll be OK with that?
Crazy isn't it.

What a messed up world we live in.
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Old 22-12-2014, 23:59
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So if some idiot decides to take it up on themselves to hospitalise, or worse, this person over something as petty as posting an insensitive and poorly timed 'joke' on the internet you'll be OK with that?
Like I say, I don't condone it and I'd prefer it if that didn't happen but....meh.
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