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Old 26-12-2014, 00:45
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I really enjoyed ED xmas episode but the scenes between Ross and April was so sweet, she a little firecracker of a actress and Ross is just the best, lovely.
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Old 26-12-2014, 00:55
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I really enjoyed ED xmas episode but the scenes between Ross and April was so sweet, she a little firecracker of a actress and Ross is just the best, lovely.
I agree. She is such a little cutie. I like seeing her on screen.
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Old 26-12-2014, 01:00
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Their relationship is utterly charming. I love that April clearly realises Ross is a vast improvement on her foul father.
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Old 26-12-2014, 01:19
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I actually can't stand their scenes, they're so forced just to make Ross seem likeable or something. I just don't buy April being so attached to Ross when she never even saw him and Donna together.

As much as Laurel irritates me, I felt really sorry for her having to put up with Ross at Christmas. I wouldn't want some thug that car jacked me and got away with it in my house around my kids especially at Christmas. I wouldn't care if the kids loved the car jacker, I wouldn't want him around them, no matter how nice he acted.

I'm getting sick of all the criminals in Emmerdale that just conveniently get away with everything.
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Old 26-12-2014, 15:49
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I find a grown man stalking a 4 yr. old girl very disturbing. The shopkeeper, whose head Ross smashed in, is he dead or does he just have brain damage?
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:22
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I find a grown man stalking a 4 yr. old girl very disturbing. The shopkeeper, whose head Ross smashed in, is he dead or does he just have brain damage?
Why do you keep saying Ross is stalking April?? I'm 51 and give my neighbour's young son birthday and Christmas presents - he's 6 at the moment. Does this mean I'm stalking him? No, of course not! So by the same token Ross giving April presents is not stalking her, you're just spouting rubbish.
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:27
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I find a grown man stalking a 4 yr. old girl very disturbing. The shopkeeper, whose head Ross smashed in, is he dead or does he just have brain damage?
Ross was seeing her Mum, who he loved and saw die, he cares about her she the last thing of Donna, I can't find anything disturbing about that.,he can't exactly ignore or be nasty too a 5 year old.
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:28
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I agree, I like their scenes together and I like seeing a different side to Ross.
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:36
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Their relationship is utterly charming. I love that April clearly realises Ross is a vast improvement on her foul father.
the carjacking, thug that is Ross is better than Marlon...I'm not Marlon's biggest fan, but Ross is a thug
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:38
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I find a grown man stalking a 4 yr. old girl very disturbing. The shopkeeper, whose head Ross smashed in, is he dead or does he just have brain damage?
are you a troll? you basically said the same in another thread. Ross went to take a present round, to his kinda step daughter, he wasn't hiding behide bushes spying on her
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:44
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I find a grown man stalking a 4 yr. old girl very disturbing. The shopkeeper, whose head Ross smashed in, is he dead or does he just have brain damage?
I don't like Ross, and he has many not nice traits, but stalking April isn't one of them. He actually genuinely seems to like and care about her, and he did genuinely love Donna so probably sees April as his only link left to her. He also knows what it's like to grow up without a mum, and possibly feels guilty or like it's partly his fault April's going to grow up without hers. I don't see him wanting to be around her or give her Christmas and Birthday presents disturbing, I'd think him worse if he ignored/forgot about her as soon as her mother was no longer around. The main problem I have with them is the scenes are almost always shown after Ross has done something horrible, and then they come across as contrived in a 'look! look! he's nice! he's not really a nasty piece of work!' way.

Houndy's going to faint if he reads this, and I feel rather strange too - I've actually been sort of nice to and stuck up for Ross
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:46
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the carjacking, thug that is Ross is better than Marlon...I'm not Marlon's biggest fan, but Ross is a thug
Oh dont let get good sense get in the way of good old shallow prejudice
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Old 26-12-2014, 16:46
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I actually can't stand their scenes, they're so forced just to make Ross seem likeable or something. I just don't buy April being so attached to Ross when she never even saw him and Donna together.

As much as Laurel irritates me, I felt really sorry for her having to put up with Ross at Christmas. I wouldn't want some thug that car jacked me and got away with it in my house around my kids especially at Christmas. I wouldn't care if the kids loved the car jacker, I wouldn't want him around them, no matter how nice he acted.

I'm getting sick of all the criminals in Emmerdale that just conveniently get away with everything.
We're not supposed to remember that or that Donna deliberately kept them apart! But then we're not supposed to remember anything, just accept the latest disjointed ramblings.
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Old 26-12-2014, 19:11
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Why do you keep saying Ross is stalking April?? I'm 51 and give my neighbour's young son birthday and Christmas presents - he's 6 at the moment. Does this mean I'm stalking him? No, of course not! So by the same token Ross giving April presents is not stalking her, you're just spouting rubbish.


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We need accurate, consistent writing in the show; this storyline is flawed... Donna was very careful to keep her little girl away from Ross and their criminal activities, as any good mother would. She entrusted April to Marlon and Laurel; so Ross and April had no involvement, which makes this storyline implausible. If the writing was consistent, April would find out, probably from another child at school, that Ross was complicit in the death of her mother, that he car-jacked her stepmother, put her little half-brother Leo in danger, terrorised Laurel, plus all his other thuggery.
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Old 28-12-2014, 21:35
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I actually can't stand their scenes, they're so forced just to make Ross seem likeable or something. I just don't buy April being so attached to Ross when she never even saw him and Donna together.

As much as Laurel irritates me, I felt really sorry for her having to put up with Ross at Christmas. I wouldn't want some thug that car jacked me and got away with it in my house around my kids especially at Christmas. I wouldn't care if the kids loved the car jacker, I wouldn't want him around them, no matter how nice he acted.

I'm getting sick of all the criminals in Emmerdale that just conveniently get away with everything.
bib1: Laurel needs to stop whining and get over herself; besides, she should have locked the car door in the first place. And she still went and broke into Ross's flat and threatened him (with a pair of scissors). She should have gone to prison for that.

bib2: Like Debbie, eh.

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Old 28-12-2014, 22:17
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I think the Ross/April scenes are great. Yep, maybe they're designed to show a more vulnerable side to Ross, sure. But Michael Parr is a good enough actor to never let us forget that Ross is still a mess-up. He lives a dangerous life, and bad shit follows him around. He could never look after April himself, and Marlon and Laurel both know that. But he went there because he misses Donna, and April wants him there, and he knows being with April makes them both feel closer to her. And that's also why Marlon and Laurel very reluctantly let him in, for a supervised visit, for April's sake.

It's a messed up situation, and they all know it. I like that. I never feel like the show is saying, oh look, Ross is such a hero after all! He's a great guy! Look how cuddly he is! He's not. I like those murky shades of grey. I even felt *slightly* sorry for Marlon and Laurel this Christmas over the whole situation, and I never thought I'd say that.
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Old 28-12-2014, 23:23
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I love their scenes. I think it definitely helps Ross as a character - it reminds us that there is some good there.
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Old 29-12-2014, 01:42
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the carjacking, thug that is Ross is better than Marlon...I'm not Marlon's biggest fan, but Ross is a thug
Morally speaking absolutely, no question. I wouldn't want to hang out with Ross in real life. But as a character I find him much more likeable than Marlon in every possible way. I probably wouldn't let a sometimes violent criminal be around a little girl but in tv show terms Ross and April's interactions are very sweet.

I think the Ross/April scenes are great. Yep, maybe they're designed to show a more vulnerable side to Ross, sure. But Michael Parr is a good enough actor to never let us forget that Ross is still a mess-up. He lives a dangerous life, and bad shit follows him around. He could never look after April himself, and Marlon and Laurel both know that. But he went there because he misses Donna, and April wants him there, and he knows being with April makes them both feel closer to her. And that's also why Marlon and Laurel very reluctantly let him in, for a supervised visit, for April's sake.

It's a messed up situation, and they all know it. I like that. I never feel like the show is saying, oh look, Ross is such a hero after all! He's a great guy! Look how cuddly he is! He's not. I like those murky shades of grey. I even felt *slightly* sorry for Marlon and Laurel this Christmas over the whole situation, and I never thought I'd say that.
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Old 29-12-2014, 03:20
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bib1: Laurel needs to stop whining and get over herself; besides, she should have locked the car door in the first place. And she still went and broke into Ross's flat and threatened him (with a pair of scissors). She should have gone to prison for that.

bib2: Like Debbie, eh.

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BIB: Actually, yea
As much as I like Debbie's character, her getting away with everything she's done is very annoying especially when she's being hypocritical about Charity. Her holier than thou act makes me roll my eyes, then again everyone in soap seems to forget their past misdeeds when someone else is behaving bad.
Even with that though, I find Ross much worse at the moment, in that he's gotten away with everything and still goes around acting like a victim and being a bitch to everyone, at least Debbie had some punishment in being held hostage and nearly killed and was also disowned and nearly lost her kids (although it wasn't for very long), and I like that she gets along with her family and the Bartons whereas Ross is a pissy loser to everyone except April. He just goes around hurting and threatening people with a big grin on his face and then cries and act hurts when someone doesn't take his bull lying down.

Re Laurel and Ross: If Laurel should have locked her car doors to prevent a car jacking then Ross should have better protected his flat if he didn't want one of his victims coming back to threaten him
Either way, I don't see why Laurel has to happily put up with someone who stole her car and frightened her for months that she was scared to be in her own home. I like that Laurel is thoroughly miserable with Marlon at that moment, I really dislike her character but I feel for her when it comes to having to put up with Ross, even Laurel doesn't deserve having to spend her xmas with someone who terrified her like that.
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Old 29-12-2014, 07:24
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Though I think April is a little cutie....Ross and April just doesn't work for me I find the whole thing to contrived...
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Old 29-12-2014, 08:35
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As a new viewer, I can only really comment on what I see and although I can recognise the manipulation, I enjoy these scenes. There is lovely interaction between the actors, the plot with Marlon and Laurel is enhanced and the character of Ross is given one redeeming quality (because without April he is very lacking).

I also agree that I don't see a 'stalking' of April. Ross loved her mum, she is a connection with that and I think the scenes are played that way. I actually found April's wanting to be 'kind' to Ross as that's what her mum would do, touching. I'm a big softie really.
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Old 29-12-2014, 10:29
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Even with that though, I find Ross much worse at the moment, in that he's gotten away with everything and still goes around acting like a victim and being a bitch to everyone, at least Debbie had some punishment in being held hostage and nearly killed and was also disowned and nearly lost her kids (although it wasn't for very long), and I like that she gets along with her family and the Bartons whereas Ross is a pissy loser to everyone except April. He just goes around hurting and threatening people with a big grin on his face and then cries and act hurts when someone doesn't take his bull lying down.
But Ross is a bit of a bitch though, isn't he? That's who he is. He's got a chip on his shoulder a mile wide because his Mum left when he was a kid, and he blames his godawful Dad for it, and he left home because of it and got caught up in dodgy stuff and has spiralled from there. He just lashes out at almost everyone - the main exceptions being Donna, April, and Finn. And he seems to respect Cain as well. But mostly, he hates everyone, so at least he's consistent. I guess all it comes down to in the end is whether you find that interesting to watch, or not. And I do!

I also find his arsey behaviour interesting because it seems to me that while he seems to hate everyone, he hates himself more. He obviously knows at bottom that he's responsible for the mess his life is in. He hits out to cover it up.

Anyway, as a person, he's terrible, but as a character, I think he's brilliant.
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Old 29-12-2014, 10:58
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But Ross is a bit of a bitch though, isn't he? That's who he is. He's got a chip on his shoulder a mile wide because his Mum left when he was a kid, and he blames his godawful Dad for it, and he left home because of it and got caught up in dodgy stuff and has spiralled from there. He just lashes out at almost everyone - the main exceptions being Donna, April, and Finn. And he seems to respect Cain as well. But mostly, he hates everyone, so at least he's consistent. I guess all it comes down to in the end is whether you find that interesting to watch, or not. And I do!
I can't stand his character, I find him one dimensional and irritating. With characters like Cain, Charity, and Debbie I can root for them easily because they have a rich history and big families that they look out for, and the few times they turn on each other, they're genuinely torn up about it, they're fleshed out characters.. And I like that they've all hit rock bottom a few times. With Ross though, he hasn't really grown or changed (him falling for Donna didn't add to his character imo), he's still robbing and scowling every 5 seconds. Since he's been in the show, he hasn't stopped his criminal behaviour, he's done dozens of crimes and he's conveniently gotten away with everyone - even Cain and co had long breaks from crime whilst Ross hasn't had any.
Him always ending up having the upper hand is frustrating, I'd like him to have some comeuppance, it would have been great if Lawrence had carried on hurting him.

On top of that Ross doesn't feel guilty about all the people he's hurt, he was smug about car jacking Laurel and robbing from the Whites and the Whites trying to destroy his family's livelihood, I don't recall the Dingles ever boasting about their crimes to their scared/innocent victims.

Also, I find the scenes with April manipulative, just there to make Ross seem like a good guy underneath it all, it's a cheap and lazy way to make him seem layered and complex. I can see why people like him, I want to like him but he's just written so poorly imo - it's disappointing because I love bitchy/mean/arsey characters when they're written well.
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Old 29-12-2014, 11:06
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I can't stand his character, I find him one dimensional and irritating. With characters like Cain, Charity, and Debbie I can root for them easily because they have a rich history and big families that they look out for, and the few times they turn on each other, they're genuinely torn up about it, they're fleshed out characters.. And I like that they've all hit rock bottom a few times. With Ross though, he hasn't really grown or changed (him falling for Donna didn't add to his character imo), he's still robbing and scowling every 5 seconds. Since he's been in the show, he hasn't stopped his criminal behaviour, he's done dozens of crimes and he's conveniently gotten away with everyone - even Cain and co had long breaks from crime whilst Ross hasn't had any.
Him always ending up having the upper hand is frustrating, I'd like him to have some comeuppance, it would have been great if Lawrence had carried on hurting him.

On top of that Ross doesn't feel guilty about all the people he's hurt, he was smug about car jacking Laurel and robbing from the Whites and the Whites trying to destroy his family's livelihood, I don't recall the Dingles ever boasting about their crimes to their scared/innocent victims.

Also, I find the scenes with April manipulative, just there to make Ross seem like a good guy underneath it all, it's a cheap and lazy way to make him seem layered and complex. I can see why people like him, I want to like him but he's just written so poorly imo - it's disappointing because I love bitchy/mean/arsey characters when they're written well.
He's not going to have the depth of Cain though - he's only been in the show about 18 months is it? 2 years? He still feels like a newbie to me, so I'd expect any development to happen over time. And his family background isn't nearly as fleshed out - they've never explored why he hates his Dad so much, mainly because they seem to have changed their minds on James and are trying to portray him as a "good guy" (*spits*).

As for his crimes, he hasn't done time (yet). But he has watched his girlfriend die, because of crap that he was involved in. And he didn't exactly look like he'd got the upper hand at Christmas, when literally no one but April wanted him around. And no doubt when Lawrence finds out about the rubbish heist, he will chase him round the estate with a shotgun. But that's all to come.

Oh well, I love watching him. Don't expect everyone/anyone to agree. But he's anything but one-dimensional to me.
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Old 29-12-2014, 11:31
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And no doubt when Lawrence finds out about the rubbish heist, he will chase him round the estate with a shotgun. But that's all to come.
I hope so, it's about time he suffers. The Donna stuff didn't really feel like any kind of comeuppance to me, I didn't buy into their love when they only knew each other a few months and just used each other.

I don't get what's happened with the James stuff, there were strong hints that he used to beat Ross and treat him like crap but that seems to be all forgotten about. I was really looking forward to that as well, and if they bring it up now it won't make much sense since there's not been any hint of James having beat up younger Ross in over a year. Now the only history between James/Ross seems to be that they just never got along, instead of anything more serious/sinister. They've really messed up Ross's supposed troubled past with James.
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