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I wish I was more knowledgeable about jazz so that I could engage in the technical discussions on the topic.
As it is, I can only comment on the level to which the music speaks to me and I'm not even very good at putting that into words. I just know what sounds good to these ears and what speaks to this humble soul. |
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I've never really enjoyed that kind of jazz that's a bit intellectual.........I don't even know what they call it, modern jazz ?
I categorise it as where they play lots of notes but not apparently in any kind of order (to paraphrase Eric & Ernie)..........I think it probably includes people like Miles Davies I just like the sort of jazz where they play proper songs with melodies and with a bit of instrumental improvisation based around the tune My idea of the greatest jazz records would be 1930s Billie Holiday with the Teddy Wilson Orchestra and 1950s Ella singing the American Songbook or dueting with Louis Armstrong accompanied by the Oscar Peterson trio (the two albums that group of artistsrecorded on the Verve label are probably my favourite two albums) (There was a track that we've had on here from the Catalans that was verging on the thing I don't like but I thought it was fairly accessible and maybe could ease me along the road into the more arty stuff.......It was the track called 'So What' which is a Miles Davies composition) So What....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJgbzZAjcLE |
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I wish I was more knowledgeable about jazz so that I could engage in the technical discussions on the topic.
As it is, I can only comment on the level to which the music speaks to me and I'm not even very good at putting that into words. I just know what sounds good to these ears and what speaks to this humble soul. "Never use one chord when you can bang a few more in." For each tune there are accompanying chords, these can be one chord per bar as in many pop songs, but many well loved songs will have up to four chords per par. Jazz musicians will take a popular tune and substitute some of the chords, to make it more interesting. For example if I were going to play "Fly me to the moon" on my piano. The correct chords as written would be for the first four bars. Fly me to the moon and let me play among the stars.......................... Cm7..............................Fm7................................Bb7................................Eb...Eb7 But you could play to "jazz it up." Cm7..........Gb13(#11)...Fm7.......B13(b9).........Bb7 ......E13(#11#9)....EbM7..A7(b9b5) The chords with the suitable inversions would sound right with the notes of the tune. Often these substitute chords are used when musicians are "improvising." Improvisation, can be actually, "playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order." As long as the notes played are part of the chord in that bar at that particular moment, then they will sound "right." Of course there are no real rules, as long as it sounds right. Miles Davis complicated matters once, by saying "I can work any chord into any tune." I'm over simplifying things but you can get an idea. "The best tunes" are usually those where the composer writes the melody first and then fits the chords round it. With a lot of pop tunes they start with a chord progression then write the tune round it which limits the possibilities and why some pop tunes sound very similar. As I said earlier I prefer "old fashioned" ballad style modern jazz, where they play the tune through straight in the first chorus and middle eight, then the soloists improvise for a couple of choruses and then the band return to the main tune in the last chorus, which can be by a small group or a big band, much like the way the Sant Andreu Band play. I like "So What." By Miles Davis. |
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earlier in the thread I posted a few manouche or gypsy jazz tracks.......which derives from the style of 1930s Paris
I see that the Saint Andreu band have covered one of Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli most famous songs.........Minor swing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um3GGwVK8h0 nice violin and guitar solos (Carla Motis) |
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earlier in the thread I posted a few manouche or gypsy jazz tracks.......which derives from the style of 1930s Paris
I see that the Saint Andreu band have covered one of Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli most famous songs.........Minor swing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um3GGwVK8h0 nice violin and guitar solos (Carla Motis) For anyone out there who things they can play guitar a bit and has not seen this clip before, here you go. The "traditional Major7th chord to finish." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk9bsqHMNMc She's compared in some ways to Barry Galbraith by comments on that YouTube clip. For those who may be wondering who that is and not seen previous posts, This is a clip I uploaded four years ago of his playing. It was recorded nearly sixty years ago, he died in 1983. Lots of nice comments on the clip. He's accompanied by an "all star line up." As i may have said before, it sounds as fresh today as it did when it was recorded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lrakx9Cezs |
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One Of my favourite composers is Hoagy Carmichael, (someone who wrote tunes as diverse as "Stardust," "Hong Kong Blues," and "Heart and Soul," deserves a lot of respect).
Here's his "The Nearness of You," sung and then played and sung by Andrea Motis. The recordings are four years apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_Yaecg078 This one with all adult musicians. Her singing has matured a great deal. She has a great range, but seems to prefer to sing in the lower register. It's "Hoagy does Bossa Nova," so maybe it should be in the Latin thread. But you can play any good tune any way you like and it still remains good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZiHIJI9U8 I could see she was playing a Selmer alto sax, which has lost a lot of its lacquer, so it could be quite old, maybe one of the legendary MkVls, made between 1954 and 1974, the "Holy Grail" of saxophones, very expensive to buy second-hand despite their age, but if so, she deserves it. I was curious about the website mentioned in the YouTube notes. http://www.thenewcatalanensemble.com/en I read; The New Catalan Ensemble (NewCat) was formed with the goal of incorporating the sounds of traditional Catalan music instruments into other musical genres. This fusion of sounds is the group’s main means of artistic expression. Which I thought was a bit of nonsense as what they played is nothing like that at all. But there's been nothing included in their "schedule" since February last year. I guess the Sant Andreu Jazz Band is the main focus and I prefer to listen to that anyway. |
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Just came across this one.
A Billie Holiday tune but well sung. A nice arrangement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0VoHUa95f8 |
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Doghouse.......there's a new video up !
Bit different this time. It's a Samba in Spanish (or Portuguese, or Catalan ?) featuring Andrea and Rita. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dix2-Y-IRgY |
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Sarah Vaughan tune. They seem to know well
Forget the endless rabbit from female Spanish presenter, talking over the interviewees at the end.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w-Sf82mlTU |
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new video uploaded a coupe of days ago featuring some of the younger ones.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6SOHLjZ274 |
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new video uploaded a coupe of days ago featuring some of the younger ones.....
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Joan's been at it again, uploading another new recording.
Rita Payes singing and playing trombone. Supported by Andrea Motis on trumpet. I'm always impressed by Josep Traver, capable of so many guitar styles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd_eRDnVsA |
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I've just been trawling YouTube and I came across this. It's a Rodgers & Hart show tune.
Probably the most well known recording is by Sinatra. It's on his classic fifties album, "In The Wee Small Hours." It's a favourite tune of mine, but a hard song to sing and the orchestration doesn't particularly help. A bit too much baritone sax from Chamorro. But it gets more melodic once it gets going. I think you can get "too clever" with arrangements, so much so, that the backing becomes a bit intrusive. With all the flutes playing chords, in parts they reminded me a bit of the orchestra on Miles Davis' "Porgy and Bess." But she copes very well. I think this is the way Andrea Motis may eventually go, singing and playing with mostly full time professional musicians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyzDB6NUQDY |
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Andrea is 20 this year........does that mean she has to leave the youth orchestra ?
I expect she'll carry on performing with Joan and the other mature players as she progresses her solo career Looks like Rita might be the chosen successor for the main 'front person' |
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Andrea is 20 this year........does that mean she has to leave the youth orchestra ?
I expect she'll carry on performing with Joan and the other mature players as she progresses her solo career Looks like Rita might be the chosen successor for the main 'front person' In Chamorro's description of the school he has said it was for seven to twenty year olds. But all four of the female instrumentalist singers, they are such a big draw and particularly Andrea, it would from a financial point of view, seem sensible to let the older ones continue to play with the youth band. I've no idea how the school is financed, but I doubt it is with public money, but maybe an EU grant? Looking back through old videos a few seem to have come and gone. I wonder what happened to them. There's always the possibility that some just walk away. It's not uncommon with teenagers who spend so much of their time dedicated to music, they can suddenly "discover" the opposite sex and everything else goes out the window. Thankfully not yet seen any of them with a mobile phone in any documentary style video. These encourage young people to spend so much time on trivia, during their formative years.. I guess a bit like message boards with older people, though these usually, actually have the time to spare. |
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Andrea Motis singing and playing flugel horn, (an instrument occasionally favoured by Miles Davis).
Some very fast imopro. passages she manages in this Latin song. Then changes to alto sax in the second number, then to trumpet and back to alto before the end! Talk about talented. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxBrNMsAR4 |
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Just seen another video where Andrea is improvising with her voice........not scat singing
Not sure how to describe this but I haven't seen her doing it before ! It's a variation on 'I'm In The Mood For Love' and is terrific ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWxriapsDes |
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Just seen another video where Andrea is improvising with her voice........not scat singing
Not sure how to describe this but I haven't seen her doing it before ! It's a variation on 'I'm In The Mood For Love' and is terrific ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWxriapsDes She sings it in a style similar to Marlena Shaw, when she does vocal improvisations. The kids would call this and "Scat singing, Rap singing." They think they invented it. I've added it to my file of sixty-plus Sant Andreu recordings. |
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There's another one here, uploaded today, of the 4 main girls singing the same song but without the big instrumental introduction......
they look like they're having a whale of a time here...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIzgNype8w |
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There's another one here, uploaded today, of the 4 main girls singing the same song but without the big instrumental introduction......
they look like they're having a whale of a time here...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIzgNype8w Andrea Motis and Eva Fernández gave "Sunny Side of the Street" the same treatment. Carla and Magali providing the accompaniment. But they've matured a lot since this recorded in 2011. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5n8yYez_ic |
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New upload.
They find it easier singing in their own language. "Wave" with Rita Payes taking the lead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4np_4GChFac |
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