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Old 27-12-2014, 17:19
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Or is their relationship now damaged beyond repair given Shirley is defending Dean(though I do think she will eventually realise he did attack Linda and attempt to put things right) and also that Shirley has lied to Mick all his life. I'm interested in how they explore this because at the moment Mick wants absolutely nothing more to do with Shirley and is disgusted with her for sticking up for her son who is a rapisf. I completely understand Mick's reaction, but I think Shirley's is understandable to an extent too as she's in complete denial and doesn't want to believe Dean is capable of such an horrific crime. Do you think Shirley and Mick could in the future start building up their relationship again or is it too late?
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:09
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Or is their relationship now damaged beyond repair given Shirley is defending Dean(though I do think she will eventually realise he did attack Linda and attempt to put things right) and also that Shirley has lied to Mick all his life. I'm interested in how they explore this because at the moment Mick wants absolutely nothing more to do with Shirley and is disgusted with her for sticking up for her son who is a rapisf. I completely understand Mick's reaction, but I think Shirley's is understandable to an extent too as she's in complete denial and doesn't want to believe Dean is capable of such an horrific crime. Do you think Shirley and Mick could in the future start building up their relationship again or is it too late?
I think they can, but I don't think it will happen for awhile. Mick and Linda will probably need to reconcile first, and I don't think Mick will accept Shirley again while she's supporting Dean's explanation that he and Linda had a one night stand. I'm guessing Stan's death and Buster's eventual reappearance will bring them closer together as well.
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:10
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Not for a good while yet but it may happen
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:15
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I think they will but it will be draaaaaaaged out until we no longer care ( a bit like who killed Lucy)!
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:16
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I care more about Mick and Linda reconciling
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:30
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Mick didn't really seem like he cared Shirley was his mother.

Nobody did for that matter.
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:35
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Shirley is always forgiven for everything so the answer is yes. "Poor Shirl" can do no wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
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Old 27-12-2014, 18:39
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They'll be reconciled again, but not for a good few months. Mick will always hate Dean though.
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Old 27-12-2014, 19:03
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Old 27-12-2014, 19:43
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I certainly hope so. It would be awful silly to create a family for Shirley and then alienate her from them completely. It will be tough but once Dean is out of the picture, I think there is potential. I understand Micks reaction to Dean but I also understand Shirley's and I think that will transpire on screen, eventually.

While Dean is around there isn't much hope for a reconciliation but I hope that sooner rather than later Shirley will find out the truth and make it up to Linda and then their (Linda/Shirley) relationship can strengthen, I wonder what their relationship was like before the fire.

With the rape rattling in his head, I don't think Mick has fully digested the information that Shirley is his mother properly yet. Or that Buster is his father, I wonder how Mick will react when Buster returns. I hope Buster supports Shirley, gawd knows she needs someone to have her back.

Stan's death and the return of Buster may be the catalyst that brings them closer again, I think they will reconcile eventually as they have/had a close bond. Mick spoke about Shirley as a 'mother' like figure and Shirley helped to bring him up and get him out of care, so it would be a shame to lose that completely.

DTC said in his interview that things will be hard for the Carters but ultimately there will be some happiness so my hope is that this means a reconciliation and that the baby will be Micks.

I would like to see a proper episode between Shirley and Mick about this at some point in the future as we won't be able to see these until the Dean situation is resolved.

I think 2015 will be Shirley's redemption and a new era for her, making up with Linda/Mick, being a mother and her relationship with Buster will all be big parts of that, I imagine.
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Old 27-12-2014, 19:51
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My big fear about Buster's return is that he will take Dean away and make a new life together. While that would be good for Dean (who I don't believe is a monster but is very mixed up and needs a lot of help) the bad news would be that Buster would be gone too. I want him to stick around and be a real support to Shirl and to stick it to Phil every chance he gets!!
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:01
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My big fear about Buster's return is that he will take Dean away and make a new life together. While that would be good for Dean (who I don't believe is a monster but is very mixed up and needs a lot of help) the bad news would be that Buster would be gone too. I want him to stick around and be a real support to Shirl and to stick it to Phil every chance he gets!!
Shirley already shot Phil! What more do you want?

Not only that but Phil and Sharon made sure Shirley got off scott free and the entire incident has been swept under the rug
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:07
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My big fear about Buster's return is that he will take Dean away and make a new life together. While that would be good for Dean (who I don't believe is a monster but is very mixed up and needs a lot of help) the bad news would be that Buster would be gone too. I want him to stick around and be a real support to Shirl and to stick it to Phil every chance he gets!!
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. I would like Buster to be a permanent fixture, he has so much potential and Karl H made such an impact in such a short space of time. I would hope that he wouldn't leave Shirley and Mick to take up with Dean once the truth about Linda is revealed.

BIB: This is exactly what I would like to happen also. I would like Buster to be a proper rival to Phil, not one who Phil immediately owns but someone equal to him. And I would like him to be a proper support to Shirley and for them to have a relationship that isn't tainted with affairs or anything.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:09
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Shirley already shot Phil! What more do you want?

Not only that but Phil and Sharon made sure Shirley got off scott free and the entire incident has been swept under the rug
Since you ask - I want Phil put down and humiliated at every available opportunity

I also want him to pine for Shirley and realise that:

1) He will never get her back and that she is happier with Buster than she ever was with him and

2) That the Stepford Wife he is lumbered with is not a patch on the real woman that he treated like dirt and cast away.

That's all for now that I can think of
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:13
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Mick didn't really seem like he cared Shirley was his mother.

Nobody did for that matter.
Yeah that was unrealistic. Yes his partner was raped but if you hear shocking news about yourself, a selfish part of you would forget about that for a split second to deal with your own news. Mick seems obsessed with Linda anyway. All this is going to make him worse and even more obsessive.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:13
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Since you ask - I want Phil put down and humiliated at every available opportunity

I also want him to pine for Shirley and realise that:

1) He will never get her back and that she is happier with Buster than she ever was with him and

2) That the Stepford Wife he is lumbered with is not a patch on the real woman that he treated like dirt and cast away.

That's all for now that I can think of
I love this post. I think we are going to get on very well...
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:16
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Since you ask - I want Phil put down and humiliated at every available opportunity

I also want him to pine for Shirley and realise that:

1) He will never get her back and that she is happier with Buster than she ever was with him and

2) That the Stepford Wife he is lumbered with is not a patch on the real woman that he treated like dirt and cast away.

That's all for now that I can think of
But Shirley is just as bad as Phil!

To be fair they deserve each other. They should've taken each other out long ago
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:16
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I love this post. I think we are going to get on very well...
I agree as well - I hope Buster gives the Philth all he can handle.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:17
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I love this post. I think we are going to get on very well...
It would appear so
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:18
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Mick didn't really seem like he cared Shirley was his mother.

Nobody did for that matter.
Exactly this. That was partially what let the whole thing down. Even with what Linda had revealed, you would still be in shock and be wanting answers. Linda, Nancy and Lee barely raised and eye and Mick just said he didn't care...it's nonsensical.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:25
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I don't get this reasoning if I'm being honest.

Phil is utter trash so Shirley and Buster should behave even worse to show him what for? Err...okay. A tad hypocritical. If Phil's behaviour is so abhorent then it shouldn't be repeated by others. Shirley was like the cat that got the cream a few years ago when she was with Phil as he terrorised Walford. If Buster replaces Phil as the resident scumbag bully then Shirley will happily threaten and intimidate weaker individuals just as she did then and just as she does now.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:26
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We've probably got a few more weeks of him bursting through doors and doing that silly posturing stance first. Afterwards it's a dead cert.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:28
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But Shirley is just as bad as Phil!

To be fair they deserve each other. They should've taken each other out long ago
I honestly don't think she is. Phil is a thug and a bully who thinks he is god and treats everyone like dirt. He hurts everyone around him and only really cares about himself at the end of the day. Look how he treated Sharon, who he supposedly loves, when he discovered her painkiller addiction - vile. He always blames others for his actions - case in point he told Grant that Sharon threw herself at him when the affair was discovered when it was not like that at all.

Shirley is no angel but she has a good heart underneath it all - Phil has a black heart and deserves all he gets.

All imho of course
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:29
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To be honest, can Shirley really be a mother to Mick?

I don't actually think he needs her. He has his own family. I just don't see much story here for them once they have sorted everything out.

Buster though, I like him and am looking forward to him coming back.
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Old 27-12-2014, 20:33
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I honestly don't think she is. Phil is a thug and a bully who thinks he is god and treats everyone like dirt. He hurts everyone around him and only really cares about himself at the end of the day. Look how he treated Sharon, who he supposedly loves, when he discovered her painkiller addiction - vile. He always blames others for his actions - case in point he told Grant that Sharon threw herself at him when the affair was discovered when it was not like that at all.

Shirley is no angel but she has a good heart underneath it all - Phil has a black heart and deserves all he gets.

All imho of course
This describes Shirley perfectly. She and Phil are a match made in Hell. Both as awful as the other. It's easy to see why the writers keep putting them back together. Phil has found the female version of himself and Shirley has found the male version of herself.

Where is Shirley's good heart? I've rarely seen her be kind to anyone unless it served her purposes. I couldn't picture her breaking down with Ian Beale in shared grief to be perfectly honest.
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