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Old 28-12-2014, 18:55
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Can you think of any musicians who've said one statement and went against what they've said?

One of my biggest music hypocrites is Emeli Sande. I remember her slagging X Factor off saying it's a bad platform to become an artist and it's wrong (yet it didn't stop her performing on it 4 times) another was when she slagged off Band Aid lyrics yet still performed on the track.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:01
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Jessie J.

Spent two years on The Voice saying how much better it was than X Factor and how it didn't laugh at people etc. Then the second she leaves (cough sacked cough) The Voice, she's promoting her latest single on X Factor Australia then appears on the UK show a few weeks later with Mary J Blige.
Then she talks to the press again this year about how she could never do X Factor as Simon Cowell laughs at people etc. Fast forward to a few weeks later and she's performing Bang Bang on there. Surely if she was THAT against it, she wouldn't even think of performing. Oh no that's right, she needs to try and sell music.

Also to a certain extent Beyonce. Don't get me wrong, I think she's an amazing performer, but she has banged on about how it's not about the beauty on the outside blah blah, her song Pretty Hurts is all about how it's the inside that matters and not what you look like..............yet at the same time she's trying to ban any "ugly" pictures of her Superbowl performance and photoshopping her Instagram pictures to appear thinner than she is. Hmmmm.

There's a lot of hypocritical stuff that goes on with artists though too. I mean again, I think she's great, but Lady Gaga was heavily rumoured to be part of this "sabotage" plan (along with Perez Hilton) against the likes of Christina Aguilera in 2010 (when she was on top of the world I might add), she in fact encouraged the idea that Christina was copying her yet in 2013 when her latest album isn't doing quite as well and she isn't BFF's with Perez anymore, she doesn't want artists to be compared to each other and she wants to be friends with Christina.

Another example is Nicki Minaj. She's had years of comparisons with Lil Kim. Lil Kim makes it very clear she can't stand her. Nicki Minaj says she doesn't understand why older artists can't be excepting when there's a new person on the scene etc. Fast forward to 2014 when Iggy Azalea is #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and there's talk about how she's the "new rap girl" in town and Nicki Minaj takes the opportunity to shade the hell out of Iggy in her acceptance speech at the BET Awards, implying that she doesn't write her own lyrics.

Honestly, there is example after example of it in music.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:27
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"Example" dissing (amongst others) The Saturdays' music for being crap, when he's dumped out some of the biggest turds this century.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:29
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Saying you wouldn't be a judge on the X Factor isn't the same as saying you wouldn't perform on it. Had she been a judge, I'd call her a hypocrite, but considering she just signed on the be a coach on The Voice Australia, it is clear her loyalty still lies with The Voice.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:37
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Saying you wouldn't be a judge on the X Factor isn't the same as saying you wouldn't perform on it. Had she been a judge, I'd call her a hypocrite, but considering she just signed on the be a coach on The Voice Australia, it is clear her loyalty still lies with The Voice.
So true and to an extent in this day and age the X factor etc is some of the best if not the best way to gain exposure for your music. Similarly katy perry declined being a judge but uses it as a platform nothing wrong in that.

Eminent is the biggy for me saying he is nether misogynist nor homophobic yet littering his music with some of the worst examples,

Beyonce as others have said her flaws and all approach while looking flawless and censoring her image to be perfection.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:37
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Saying you wouldn't be a judge on the X Factor isn't the same as saying you wouldn't perform on it. Had she been a judge, I'd call her a hypocrite, but considering she just signed on the be a coach on The Voice Australia, it is clear her loyalty still lies with The Voice.
Has she? Where'd you read that? Can't see any mention of it anywhere.


I'd agree with the OP on Emeli Sande. Cheryl Cole said she'd never return to the X Factor and didn't Miley Cyrus always bang on about how she'd always be a role model whenever she was in Hannah Montana. That hardly turned out well.
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Old 28-12-2014, 19:40
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Any musician who threatens to retire but then doesn't. E.g Lily Allen, Coldplay, Elton etc
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Old 28-12-2014, 21:53
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Has she? Where'd you read that? Can't see any mention of it anywhere.


I'd agree with the OP on Emeli Sande. Cheryl Cole said she'd never return to the X Factor and didn't Miley Cyrus always bang on about how she'd always be a role model whenever she was in Hannah Montana. That hardly turned out well.
She posted a picture on Instagram of her signing the papers with a chair and a peace sign in the caption with hash tag teamjessie. Then as people were guessing in the comments she responded to a couple. One asked if it was the US or UK and she said neither. Then someone said something like they imagine it's Australia and she just said imagine with a wink I believe. Then a koala emoji by itself.
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Old 28-12-2014, 22:08
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"Example" dissing (amongst others) The Saturdays' music for being crap, when he's dumped out some of the
biggest turds this century.
Slagging off other acts' music is not being a hypocrite, it's called expressing an opinion.
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Old 28-12-2014, 22:47
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Can you think of any musicians who've said one statement and went against what they've said?

One of my biggest music hypocrites is Emeli Sande. I remember her slagging X Factor off saying it's a bad platform to become an artist and it's wrong (yet it didn't stop her performing on it 4 times) another was when she slagged off Band Aid lyrics yet still performed on the track.
That's not hypocrisy. Believing that the X Factor is a bad platform to become an artist (a pretty valid point of view) does not have to exclude one from performing on it. You may not like a TV show much but it doesn't mean you shoot yourself in the foot promotion-wise by refusing to appear on it. Saying "I'd never go on the X Factor" and later appearing on it is hypocrisy i.e. doing exactly what you've said you would not. I doubt all musicians and actors love everything about all the radio and TV shows and channels they appear on or the people who interview them over the years. Business is business.

Likewise Band Aid - the lyrics are patronising, naive garbage but someone who takes issue with them might still contribute to the record because they want to support the cause.

Another example is Nicki Minaj. She's had years of comparisons with Lil Kim. Lil Kim makes it very clear she can't stand her. Nicki Minaj says she doesn't understand why older artists can't be excepting when there's a new person on the scene etc.

Fast forward to 2014 when Iggy Azalea is #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and there's talk about how she's the "new rap girl" in town and Nicki Minaj takes the opportunity to shade the hell out of Iggy in her acceptance speech at the BET Awards, implying that she doesn't write her own lyrics.
Nicki Minaj obviously believes she's worthy of Lil Kim's respect but doesn't receive it as Kim feels otherwise. This doesn't mean Nicki automatically has to rate Iggy Azalea. Nobody with a bit of sense in the world of Hop Hop does. Frankly I say they are all wack artists and not due any respect but Iggy Azalea's offerings are especially laughable even compared to the two cosmetic surgery disasters.
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Old 29-12-2014, 00:15
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For me its the guys in the band Rage againts the machine

Singing their anti capitalism drivel while being employees of Sony

U2(bono) Preaching to help the poor and doing everything in his power to not pay taxes

Im fine with artist using any way they can to save money /not pay taxes but not when all they do is preach and whine about helping others with politicians
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Old 29-12-2014, 00:24
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Saying you wouldn't be a judge on the X Factor isn't the same as saying you wouldn't perform on it. Had she been a judge, I'd call her a hypocrite, but considering she just signed on the be a coach on The Voice Australia, it is clear her loyalty still lies with The Voice.
(not that it matters really...) wasn't Jessie a judge at Tulisa's judges houses on XF just a couple of months before she did The Voice?
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Old 29-12-2014, 00:33
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(not that it matters really...) wasn't Jessie a judge at Tulisa's judges houses on XF just a couple of months before she did The Voice?
That was in 2011 I believe and she is on video saying she told Simon she would only be part of that aspect of the show because the contestants at that point can actually sing and aren't there to be ridiculed, but she would not participate as a regular judge on the show.
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Old 29-12-2014, 00:49
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John Lennon. "Imagine no possessions...", probably quite difficult for a multi millionaire musician.
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Old 29-12-2014, 01:48
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Jessie J.

Spent two years on The Voice saying how much better it was than X Factor and how it didn't laugh at people etc. Then the second she leaves (cough sacked cough) The Voice, she's promoting her latest single on X Factor Australia then appears on the UK show a few weeks later with Mary J Blige.
Then she talks to the press again this year about how she could never do X Factor as Simon Cowell laughs at people etc. Fast forward to a few weeks later and she's performing Bang Bang on there. Surely if she was THAT against it, she wouldn't even think of performing. Oh no that's right, she needs to try and sell music.

Also to a certain extent Beyonce. Don't get me wrong, I think she's an amazing performer, but she has banged on about how it's not about the beauty on the outside blah blah, her song Pretty Hurts is all about how it's the inside that matters and not what you look like..............yet at the same time she's trying to ban any "ugly" pictures of her Superbowl performance and photoshopping her Instagram pictures to appear thinner than she is. Hmmmm.

There's a lot of hypocritical stuff that goes on with artists though too. I mean again, I think she's great, but Lady Gaga was heavily rumoured to be part of this "sabotage" plan (along with Perez Hilton) against the likes of Christina Aguilera in 2010 (when she was on top of the world I might add), she in fact encouraged the idea that Christina was copying her yet in 2013 when her latest album isn't doing quite as well and she isn't BFF's with Perez anymore, she doesn't want artists to be compared to each other and she wants to be friends with Christina.

Another example is Nicki Minaj. She's had years of comparisons with Lil Kim. Lil Kim makes it very clear she can't stand her. Nicki Minaj says she doesn't understand why older artists can't be excepting when there's a new person on the scene etc. Fast forward to 2014 when Iggy Azalea is #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and there's talk about how she's the "new rap girl" in town and Nicki Minaj takes the opportunity to shade the hell out of Iggy in her acceptance speech at the BET Awards, implying that she doesn't write her own lyrics.

Honestly, there is example after example of it in music.
But Iggy Azalea ain't no rapper though!!
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Old 29-12-2014, 03:35
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Elton John. That is all.
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Old 29-12-2014, 12:31
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John Lennon. "Imagine no possessions...", probably quite difficult for a multi millionaire musician.
I agree totally, mate. Singing 'Imagine there's no possessions' while sitting in a £800,000 mansion. Piss off, you two faced, hippy prick.
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Old 29-12-2014, 12:37
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I recall Elton John slagging The XF off continuously every year and would never perform on there, and yet he appeared a year or two ago to plug his new music.

Britney Spears has always embraced her gay fans and like many, she supported same sex marriage. Yet, she has openly admitted she admires and follows the teachings of a well known reverend in the states. and guess what, he hates gay people with a passion and preaches about his hate for it a lot.
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Old 29-12-2014, 16:22
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John Lennon, Give Peace A Chance. Whilst donating money to the IRA to make bombs, and marching to suppose them . I remember the Rolling Stone article and photos.

Gary Barlow, shoving give to charity every two seconds. Yet jumps on a scheme to avoid paying normal tax so he can hang on to his millions. When caught out tries to make out he didn't know it was illegal.
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Old 29-12-2014, 17:29
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Avril Lavigne - went on and on in interviews saying 'this is me' and how she would never sell out and become like other blonde bimbo pop stars who wear loads of make up and dress provocatively, and then did exactly that.
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Old 29-12-2014, 17:56
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I agree totally, mate. Singing 'Imagine there's no possessions' while sitting in a £800,000 mansion. Piss off, you two faced, hippy prick.
You are missing the point, it's a song about ending division between peoples, not about riches. Do you agree with the sentiment or not?
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Old 29-12-2014, 18:02
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John Lennon, Give Peace A Chance. Whilst donating money to the IRA to make bombs, and marching to suppose them . I remember the Rolling Stone article and photos.
There is an alternative view which suggests that Lennon was only prepared to play to raise money for the families of internees. Believe what you wish.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/the-night-i-punched-john-lennon-hooley-28446390.html
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Old 29-12-2014, 18:56
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John Lennon. "Imagine no possessions...", probably quite difficult for a multi millionaire musician.
The song was about more than that, and the message is a good one, and you don't need to be poor to say it.
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Old 29-12-2014, 19:17
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There is an alternative view which suggests that Lennon was only prepared to play to raise money for the families of internees. Believe what you wish.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-28446390.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-28446390.html

Sorry for quoting myself but that's the right link now.
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Old 30-12-2014, 08:20
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Avril Lavigne - went on and on in interviews saying 'this is me' and how she would never sell out and become like other blonde bimbo pop stars who wear loads of make up and dress provocatively, and then did exactly that.
To be fair, she was still a teenager. She simply grew up.
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