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Old 31-12-2014, 05:59
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She just seems too switched on to be ill.. there's moments where she just changes.. like the scene where she was talking to stan.. she's the manipulating one to watch out for! any1 else feel the same or is it just me?? if its true I think itl b very intresting..

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Old 31-12-2014, 06:29
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I fully agree.......she is "all there"...but has a nasty streak......
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Old 31-12-2014, 06:35
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I had my suspicions from last week about Sylvie. Should be very interesting to watch in the coming months.
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Old 31-12-2014, 07:01
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I hope this turns out to be the case. The actress is excellent and I could see her being a total b*tch on the square.
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Old 31-12-2014, 07:43
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EE had the opportunity to show someone's journey with Dementia, however after last night's episode it's looking like they are going to just dip in and out as their story lines dictate.
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Old 31-12-2014, 07:50
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Seriously?? Good grief.

My gran has advanced dementia. She has periods of sharp lucidity where she is in the present. She will snap suddenly into thinking she is fifty years or so in the past and recognises some relatives but not others. A minute or so later, she won't recognise anyone she knows, and will throw a "tantrum" through sheer frustration and fright. She oscillates between varying degrees of these three states of mind constantly.

So no, I don't find anything about Sylvie's illness unrealistic. Quite the opposite.
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:28
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Seriously?? Good grief.

My gran has advanced dementia. She has periods of sharp lucidity where she is in the present. She will snap suddenly into thinking she is fifty years or so in the past and recognises some relatives but not others. A minute or so later, she won't recognise anyone she knows, and will throw a "tantrum" through sheer frustration and fright. She oscillates between varying degrees of these three states of mind constantly.

So no, I don't find anything about Sylvie's illness unrealistic. Quite the opposite.
Well said Sara, I agree. Like you I have an understanding of this awful illness with a close relative. It is completely heart breaking to witness. Good wishes to you and your Gran.
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:28
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Seriously?? Good grief.

My gran has advanced dementia. She has periods of sharp lucidity where she is in the present. She will snap suddenly into thinking she is fifty years or so in the past and recognises some relatives but not others. A minute or so later, she won't recognise anyone she knows, and will throw a "tantrum" through sheer frustration and fright. She oscillates between varying degrees of these three states of mind constantly.

So no, I don't find anything about Sylvie's illness unrealistic. Quite the opposite.
I agree with you. My nan was exactly the same. I remember her being able to do mental arithmetic faster than I could yet sometimes she wold speak to my mum not realizing she was her daughter....however for the sake of future storylines I hope that she really isn't ill because if she is, that'll strongly limit her own storylines as where else would the be able to take the character?
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:30
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People with dementia have moments of lucidity, so it's perfectly reasonable to accept that Sylvie would remember some things (fundamental things like how many kids she has) but not others. It's a very realistic portrayal.

What could she possibly gain from 'faking' dementia?
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:33
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People with dementia have moments of lucidity, so it's perfectly reasonable to accept that Sylvie would remember some things (fundamental things like how many kids she has) but not others. It's a very realistic portrayal.

What could she possibly gain from 'faking' dementia?
Sympathy? An excuse for being nasty?
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:49
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Nobody in the family was ever supposed to know where she was, much less that she had dementia, despite her being diagnosed 5 years ago though. 5 years is a long time to fake something on the vague offchance that you might get to have a pop at your ex and daughter one day.

My nan had dementia. She was often confused but not aggressive with it. She took to calling absolutely everyone "lovely" as forgetting names was distressing, but more often than not she knew vaguely who we all were, even if she got the relationships muddled sometimes (think my auntie and I were each other for instance). The only person she could always identify correctly immediately was Vera Duckworth...

So there are no hard and fast rules for dementia. It is how it is for the individual person and it can change in a heartbeat.
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:52
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I don't think she is faking but I think it's unrealistic. My Grandad and the many people I have nursed have plenty of lucid moments but we are led to believe Sylvie's dementia is at the stage where she can not be left unsupervised therefore her cognitive function has deteriorated significantly, yes she will have lucid moments but they would occur as and when, not on cue because Stan decides he wants to have a serious conversation and I can see that whenever a character wants to have a serious conversation with her she will have a lucid moment. I think it's a mistake to bring in a character that is needed for a dramatic storyline and portray them with a Dementia.
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:55
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Old 31-12-2014, 08:58
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I agree that it appears unrealistic. That first day she was disorientated and petrified of being in unfamiliar surroundings. A few days later she's spending Christmas with the long lost family, the majority of who she had either never met before or was seeing again for the first time that day in nearly 4 decades, witnessed a punch up, Shirley revealing the skeleton in the closet, including an unscheduled overnight stay without her carer, who has had a strop and flounced off, and doesn't appear fazed at all.
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Old 31-12-2014, 10:06
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She might put it on at times or play up to it, but there was that scene in the market when she ran from the car and the camera effects were blurry and disorientated, showing the audience she was confused and scared. That wasn't for anyone's benefit but the audience.
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Old 31-12-2014, 10:19
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I don't think she is faking it but I think like in the above post, that she sometimes plays on it at times.
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Old 31-12-2014, 10:24
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I don't think she's faking it. From what i have seen it is a very accurate portrayal of someone with Dementia (more so than other portrays in soaps in the past). Just goes to show how poor Dementia Awareness is in the UK
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Old 31-12-2014, 10:26
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I'd agree with this, if we hadn't had that POV scene where she was scared in the market, and walked into the cafe. If she doesn't have dementia, this scene was a cheat in the narrative.
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Old 31-12-2014, 10:44
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I don't think this is the case. As when she was on her own in the square she looked terrified. She couldn't of been faking that her family wasn't near by to see it.
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Old 31-12-2014, 11:13
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The scene when she was in market proved she was had dementia brough whether she fakes symtoms of it sometimes is possible( my nan has dementia and she appears to be worse with my dad and one aunt compared to when another Aunt( all her children) vists.
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Old 31-12-2014, 11:31
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I can't say whether she is faking or not, purely for lack of knowledge or experience through demential personally

But Linda Marlowe's acting leaves little to be desired on everything to do Sylvie on who and what she is.
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Old 31-12-2014, 11:45
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While I'm sure she has dementia, I would be surprised if she was more lucid than she behaved on Christmas Day, she seemed to say just what was needed to rub the salt into Stan. No reason to believe she doesn't have it, and yet be exaggerating to get the family on her side, and to get at Stan.
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Old 31-12-2014, 12:14
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The market scene made it pretty obvious that she isn't faking it. Certain things and people spark lucidity and memories in dementia sufferers - they can have a conversation with you one day in the most amazing detail then an hour later not recognise you, it's what makes it such a cruel disease.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:03
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Nobody in the family was ever supposed to know where she was, much less that she had dementia, despite her being diagnosed 5 years ago though. 5 years is a long time to fake something on the vague offchance that you might get to have a pop at your ex and daughter one day.

My nan had dementia. She was often confused but not aggressive with it. She took to calling absolutely everyone "lovely" as forgetting names was distressing, but more often than not she knew vaguely who we all were, even if she got the relationships muddled sometimes (think my auntie and I were each other for instance). The only person she could always identify correctly immediately was Vera Duckworth...

So there are no hard and fast rules for dementia. It is how it is for the individual person and it can change in a heartbeat.
I can see what your saying but firstly we have not seen her on screen for 5 years secondly aunt babe isn't exacly innocent is she we have seen how manipulator she can be. I may be wrong & to be honest I haven't lived with anyone who has dementia so I can't say anything first hand or out of experience its just a feeling I have about her.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:12
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I had my suspicions from last week about Sylvie. Should be very interesting to watch in the coming months.
Found someone that thinks the same yaay lol.. but some people who have commented have family with dementia & believe its not the case. so I'm confused now. I guess we will have to wait & see.
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