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I'm still hoping we get to meet Simon at some point. He doesn't need to be a regular but he could pop up for a bit and I really do want more of a look into what originated the Hennessey/Kiely feud as well.
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I'm still hoping we get to meet Simon at some point. He doesn't need to be a regular but he could pop up for a bit and I really do want more of a look into what originated the Hennessey/Kiely feud as well.
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Tonight is the mid-season finale and last episode of 2016.
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I'm still hoping we get to meet Simon at some point. He doesn't need to be a regular but he could pop up for a bit and I really do want more of a look into what originated the Hennessey/Kiely feud as well.
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Tonight is the mid-season finale and last episode of 2016.
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This makes no sense! I thought maybe it was because TV3 would be airing I'm A Celebrity but it's on UTV this year. In place of Red Rock, they're showing DIY SOS next week. I don't recall it finishing this early last year?
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A lot of the US shows have mid season breaks, so maybe they've adopted the same idea for Red Rock. It will no doubt mean a cliff hanger to carry it over to the next part of the series when it's back next year.
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What a bizarre move!
![]() It's only been back on air for two months, and now it's being taken off air for two months? People will not stick with this show if they keep messing it around. |
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What a bizarre move!
![]() It's only been back on air for two months, and now it's being taken off air for two months? People will not stick with this show if they keep messing it around. Could it be something to do with the move to the BBC?? This couldn't have been the plan when they launched Series 3 in September with a load of publicity, something must have happened behind the scenes to make them take the drastic action of pulling the programme from the schedule for the rest of this year. They're not happy with the one hour episode and will revert back to two episodes a week perhaps? Who knows. |
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Must say I'm absolutely baffled as to why they've pulled the series after nine episodes, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Could it be something to do with the move to the BBC?? This couldn't have been the plan when they launched Series 3 in September with a load of publicity, something must have happened behind the scenes to make them take the drastic action of pulling the programme from the schedule for the rest of this year. They're not happy with the one hour episode and will revert back to two episodes a week perhaps? Who knows. And as Dullagj2 pointed out, the cliffhanger wasn't even that big. Like it could've been the ending of any normal episode. The one thing I noticed about the preview trailer is that they're leaning heavily on the crime element now. Being set in a Garda station, there was always going to be that angle but now every family in the show, bar the Tyrells, is becoming involved in serious criminality be it covering up a murder, smuggling or loan sharking and assault. With the amount of guns being waved around, TV3 have obviously decided to go the Love Hate route which only has a certain shelf life so I hope they don't mess the show up. |
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It's a strange one alright. It's not even like they've increased their episode output so they would've been filming the same amount of hours as before and it's not like TV3 are taking it off the air to make way for football or something like Britain's Got Talent.
And as Dullagj2 pointed out, the cliffhanger wasn't even that big. Like it could've been the ending of any normal episode. The one thing I noticed about the preview trailer is that they're leaning heavily on the crime element now. Being set in a Garda station, there was always going to be that angle but now every family in the show, bar the Tyrells, is becoming involved in serious criminality be it covering up a murder, smuggling or loan sharking and assault. With the amount of guns being waved around, TV3 have obviously decided to go the Love Hate route which only has a certain shelf life so I hope they don't mess the show up. I'm very surprised this has happened though, as I didn't see any drop off in quality compared to previous series. I'm assuming when it returns in early January, there will be a new timeslot or perhaps we'll even be back to two episodes a week on Wednesdays and Thursdays again. |
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Episode 9 is ready anyway :
http://vshare.eu/9hszyaavkzyn.htm Hopefully this interruption in the series is just a temporary problem for them and they get everything back on track in January. |
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My best guess is that normally when a show is pulled from the schedule at very short notice, it suggests the TV controllers are not happy at all with how it is performing in its timeslot. Perhaps they now view the switch to Monday evenings as having been a major mistake (for whatever reason).
I'm very surprised this has happened though, as I didn't see any drop off in quality compared to previous series. I'm assuming when it returns in early January, there will be a new timeslot or perhaps we'll even be back to two episodes a week on Wednesdays and Thursdays again. The show's creator liked my irate tweet. Make of that what you will. I'm baffled. |
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The twitter account says it's back Monday 9th January 2017.
The show's creator liked my irate tweet. Make of that what you will. I'm baffled. |
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Yup, something is definitely off. There was no way a 'mid-season finale' was planned at all.
Maybe they need to find a new timeslot or feel the hour long format doesn't work or whatever but it's definitely suspect alright. |
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Yup, something is definitely off. There was no way a 'mid-season finale' was planned at all.
Maybe they need to find a new timeslot or feel the hour long format doesn't work or whatever but it's definitely suspect alright. Now it's on a Monday, a day already saturated with serial drama, it has no Fair City to bounce off and it's on half-an-hour after the last big soap of the day has finished (Corrie). I think it's just asking too much of viewers. There's also some really bad characters like the new 'comedy' cop Adrian, Rory and David, all of whom are terrible actors and one-dimensional characters who need to be binned. Paudge is already the comic relief but unlike Adrian, he has some depth. Having two of the same kind of character in a show never works. The show has other issues as well: I don't think the writing has been as good in this series as previous ones. Some of the storylines have been going on for absolutely ages and some new ones are needed, particularly for characters outside of the Kielys and Hennessys. Some characters and storylines disappear for weeks on end, which makes the show feel disjointed. The crime of the week element seems to have been lost. A lot of stories just go on too long and I'm losing both patience and interest; it's just going around in circles and audiences, however loyal, will only tolerate that for so long. If they are going to stick with the one hour format, better to move it to a Saturday night off the back of Casualty in my opinion. Otherwise, I think TV3 need to accept defeat and move the show back to it's old schedule. But if something doesn't change, I honestly wonder if Red Rock will last more than another couple of years. |
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Although I've adapted to the new time slot and format, personally I preferred it's original schedule. It's a heavy going show and an hour is a long time for a gritty drama week in, week out. Also, when it was on Wednesdays and Thursdays, these are quieter telly days and it could come off the back of Fair City. History shows that soaps need to stick together.
Now it's on a Monday, a day already saturated with serial drama, it has no Fair City to bounce off and it's on half-an-hour after the last big soap of the day has finished (Corrie). I think it's just asking too much of viewers. There's also some really bad characters like the new 'comedy' cop Adrian, Rory and David, all of whom are terrible actors and one-dimensional characters who need to be binned. Paudge is already the comic relief but unlike Adrian, he has some depth. Having two of the same kind of character in a show never works. The show has other issues as well: I don't think the writing has been as good in this series as previous ones. Some of the storylines have been going on for absolutely ages and some new ones are needed, particularly for characters outside of the Kielys and Hennessys. Some characters and storylines disappear for weeks on end, which makes the show feel disjointed. The crime of the week element seems to have been lost. A lot of stories just go on too long and I'm losing both patience and interest; it's just going around in circles and audiences, however loyal, will only tolerate that for so long. If they are going to stick with the one hour format, better to move it to a Saturday night off the back of Casualty in my opinion. Otherwise, I think TV3 need to accept defeat and move the show back to it's old schedule. But if something doesn't change, I honestly wonder if Red Rock will last more than another couple of years. One thing that I noticed with earlier episodes this season was that they were obviously still filming episodes in such a way that they could be split into half hour episodes if need be, presumably for Amazon. Like the pre-ad break cliffhanger at the halfway point felt as though it could've been an end of episode cliffhanger. So it should be easy enough for them to return to that format on TV3 if need be but the fact that it's returning on a Monday, suggests that they're sticking with the hour long for now. I don't really mind the new cop either way but I do agree with you about Rory and David. I've always thought Rory was dire but David's gotten particularly annoying recently. I know he's written as a spoilt brat but he is played as really unlikeable and whiny now. I am liking the Michael and Robbie dynamic though. I wasn't that bothered with Michael previously as he rarely got any screentime but he's been really good since he's come to the fore. |
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Yup, something is definitely off. There was no way a 'mid-season finale' was planned at all.
Maybe they need to find a new timeslot or feel the hour long format doesn't work or whatever but it's definitely suspect alright. It's definitely a major cock up for them anyway, heading into the Christmas season and the show is not even on air. |
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That's my guess, the Monday evening slot wasn't working for them and they took the quite drastic step of pulling the show from the schedule. They were probably afraid that if they moved the timeslot and format from one week to the next, it would be too problematic and confusing for the public.
It's definitely a major cock up for them anyway, heading into the Christmas season and the show is not even on air. |
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But the announcer said it's back on 9th January, which is a Monday. None of it makes any sense.
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But the announcer said it's back on 9th January, which is a Monday. None of it makes any sense.
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Are we likely to see a statement from TV3 about it? This is most bizarre. Does anyone have any ideas what the ratings were like? I know that it returned to 164,000 which they were very happy with, but have the figures slumped dramatically since? It must be a move based on audience figures; I simply don't know what else it could be. Big mistake as it could damage the momentum that the show has built up.
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Just caught up with this weeks episode, very good, liking the darker side of Michael, don't know why David is the 'golden child', maybe it'll become clear later on.
Such a shame they've pulled it off air for a couple of months, very strange decision,especially after watching the trailer for what's happening next, oh well, will catch you guys in the new year, happy Xmas
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While this doesn't answer the question about why it was pulled, it goes some way to explaining why it was moved from it's original timeslots to begin with. The soaps that Red Rock was made to replace are now returning to TV3, upending the evening schedule in the process.
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016...and-emmerdale/ |
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While this doesn't answer the question about why it was pulled, it goes some way to explaining why it was moved from it's original timeslots to begin with. The soaps that Red Rock was made to replace are now returning to TV3, upending the evening schedule in the process.
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016...and-emmerdale/ |
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I've a feeling that the return of Coronation Street and Emmerdale to TV3 at the start of December may well be a factor in why the show was temporarily pulled. Their entire evening schedule is about to be seriously disrupted and other programmes will have to be moved.
Coincidentally, this has just been mentioned in a report about TV3's recent revenue losses "This makes Red Rock one of the most successful exports in Irish broadcasting history, although the soap opera’s ratings in Ireland have dropped of late and it is currently on a mid-season break" http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...year-1.2880595 |
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