Digital stream copying help

DS-Guy · 06-01-2015, 14:50

hi after forgetting my password for this forum had to reset password but was told i had a invalid certificate any way i appear to be logged in ok now.
i recently bought a 500 GB external hdd and succesfully copied a folder and its programmes on to my new external hdd but try copying a second folder and it's programmes and they end up in the first folder so how do i get a second folder in to it's own slot on my external hdd along with it's programmes? Thanks

Chris Frost · 06-01-2015, 14:53

Presuming that you are Windows based, use Explorer and just navigate the USB drive as you would any other drive on your PC. There's no big secret to it.

DS-Guy · 07-01-2015, 00:10

hi chris sorry it's not connected to a pc it's a external hdd connected to my digital stream pvr model number: DHR820xU for copying from my pvr to the external hdd

Chris Frost · 07-01-2015, 01:14

Ah right, it would have been useful to put the full make and model details in the OP.

Here:

How To - Copy & Move Video Files

In the MEDIA List FUNC+ Menu

You can make a Directory eg. FILMS

MEDIA > FUNC+ > Others > New Folder

Move To to move recordings into a directory. (doesn't add any space requirement.)

Copy To is used with an external drive (160GB+ Formatted by the DHR to XFS)

The HD programs will be encrypted for playback only on a DS DHR or DHP machine.

DS-Guy · 07-01-2015, 11:44

Right i have got this far already but i am getting stuck on a couple of things 1. the folders i want to copy over to the external hdd are already named cant the named folders be copied over to the ex hdd with out renaming them along with the progrmmes? 2. and will either way work ie: copy/move thanks

Chris Frost · 07-01-2015, 12:26

I think the idea might be to set up the folders on the USB drive independent of what's on the DS box. Then copy the individual programmes in to the respective folders.

DS-Guy · 07-01-2015, 15:32

ok well not much success tried moving the cursor on to the folder and then copy i did then try to select choose path which is usb front the ext hdd on the cursor keys clicked to the right it said empty for the folder then selected the path and away it went
after copying checked everything but the second folder ended up in the sub section of the first folder ie the programmes that are related to the first folder the new folder
was there so tried another way using the navigation keys got the folder i wanted to copy over to the ext hdd put a tick that corrosponed to that folder and repeated the above steps only to find out the same problem occured which makes me wonder if i should
under the empty slot type in the name of the new folder this though would defeat the object of automaticaly moving folders and the programmes over to the ext hdd? again thanks for your replies

DS-Guy · 10-01-2015, 12:09

will i need to create a new folder manually for eg: the tube and copy over to the ext hdd
so it finds it's own slot then copy over the associated programmes which will go to the correct section?

DS-Guy · 12-01-2015, 19:09

sorted the problem out! you have to type the new folders name in to the external hdd then all is ok i have a questiion though if i use the move to feature to put programmes on to my ext hdd will this be quicker than copying? thanks again for your help

chrisjr · 13-01-2015, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS-Guy

sorted the problem out! you have to type the new folders name in to the external hdd then all is ok i have a questiion though if i use the move to feature to put programmes on to my ext hdd will this be quicker than copying? thanks again for your help

The only difference between Move and Copy may be what happens to the original recordings after being copied to the external drive. Move could well delete the originals while Copy will retain them.

However both processes involve transferring exactly the same amount of data at exactly the same rate from one hard drive to another. So that bit will be the same whichever option you choose. Any deletion of the originals is likely to be pretty quick by comparison to the data copying stage so won't add too much to the overall duration.

DS-Guy · 13-01-2015, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjr

The only difference between Move and Copy may be what happens to the original recordings after being copied to the external drive. Move could well delete the originals while Copy will retain them.

However both processes involve transferring exactly the same amount of data at exactly the same rate from one hard drive to another. So that bit will be the same whichever option you choose. Any deletion of the originals is likely to be pretty quick by comparison to the data copying stage so won't add too much to the overall duration.

just wanted to be sure i will be using move in future as it takes a long time to delete programmes off the pvr's hdd using the copy mode even though ds sent out a software upgrade it hasn't made much difference. thanks for your reply

chrisjr · 13-01-2015, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS-Guy

just wanted to be sure i will i be using move in future as it takes a long time to delete programmes off the pvr's hdd using the copy mode even though ds sent out a software upgrade it hasn't made much difference. thanks for your reply

What exactly is taking the time when you delete manually? Is it the time to navigate the menus to find the delete option or what happens after you have pressed "Delete"? If it sits there whirring away processing the disk after you have pressed "Delete" then it is always possible that it will take just as much time using the Move option.

The only bit that may be speeded up is the process of selecting the file and finding the Delete option by hand.

06-01-2015, 14:50	#1
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	Digital stream copying help hi after forgetting my password for this forum had to reset password but was told i had a invalid certificate any way i appear to be logged in ok now. i recently bought a 500 GB external hdd and succesfully copied a folder and its programmes on to my new external hdd but try copying a second folder and it's programmes and they end up in the first folder so how do i get a second folder in to it's own slot on my external hdd along with it's programmes? Thanks

06-01-2015, 14:53	#2
Chris Frost Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 6,462	Presuming that you are Windows based, use Explorer and just navigate the USB drive as you would any other drive on your PC. There's no big secret to it.

07-01-2015, 00:10	#3
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	hi chris sorry it's not connected to a pc it's a external hdd connected to my digital stream pvr model number: DHR820xU for copying from my pvr to the external hdd

07-01-2015, 01:14	#4
Chris Frost Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 6,462	Ah right, it would have been useful to put the full make and model details in the OP. Here: How To - Copy & Move Video Files In the MEDIA List FUNC+ Menu You can make a Directory eg. FILMS MEDIA > FUNC+ > Others > New Folder Move To to move recordings into a directory. (doesn't add any space requirement.) Copy To is used with an external drive (160GB+ Formatted by the DHR to XFS) The HD programs will be encrypted for playback only on a DS DHR or DHP machine.

07-01-2015, 11:44	#5
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	Right i have got this far already but i am getting stuck on a couple of things 1. the folders i want to copy over to the external hdd are already named cant the named folders be copied over to the ex hdd with out renaming them along with the progrmmes? 2. and will either way work ie: copy/move thanks

07-01-2015, 12:26	#6
Chris Frost Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 6,462	I think the idea might be to set up the folders on the USB drive independent of what's on the DS box. Then copy the individual programmes in to the respective folders.

07-01-2015, 15:32	#7
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	ok well not much success tried moving the cursor on to the folder and then copy i did then try to select choose path which is usb front the ext hdd on the cursor keys clicked to the right it said empty for the folder then selected the path and away it went after copying checked everything but the second folder ended up in the sub section of the first folder ie the programmes that are related to the first folder the new folder was there so tried another way using the navigation keys got the folder i wanted to copy over to the ext hdd put a tick that corrosponed to that folder and repeated the above steps only to find out the same problem occured which makes me wonder if i should under the empty slot type in the name of the new folder this though would defeat the object of automaticaly moving folders and the programmes over to the ext hdd? again thanks for your replies

10-01-2015, 12:09	#8
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	will i need to create a new folder manually for eg: the tube and copy over to the ext hdd so it finds it's own slot then copy over the associated programmes which will go to the correct section?

12-01-2015, 19:09	#9
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	sorted the problem out! you have to type the new folders name in to the external hdd then all is ok i have a questiion though if i use the move to feature to put programmes on to my ext hdd will this be quicker than copying? thanks again for your help

13-01-2015, 11:04	#10
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by DS-Guy sorted the problem out! you have to type the new folders name in to the external hdd then all is ok i have a questiion though if i use the move to feature to put programmes on to my ext hdd will this be quicker than copying? thanks again for your help The only difference between Move and Copy may be what happens to the original recordings after being copied to the external drive. Move could well delete the originals while Copy will retain them. However both processes involve transferring exactly the same amount of data at exactly the same rate from one hard drive to another. So that bit will be the same whichever option you choose. Any deletion of the originals is likely to be pretty quick by comparison to the data copying stage so won't add too much to the overall duration.

13-01-2015, 12:39	#11
DS-Guy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 168	Quote: Originally Posted by chrisjr The only difference between Move and Copy may be what happens to the original recordings after being copied to the external drive. Move could well delete the originals while Copy will retain them. However both processes involve transferring exactly the same amount of data at exactly the same rate from one hard drive to another. So that bit will be the same whichever option you choose. Any deletion of the originals is likely to be pretty quick by comparison to the data copying stage so won't add too much to the overall duration. just wanted to be sure i will be using move in future as it takes a long time to delete programmes off the pvr's hdd using the copy mode even though ds sent out a software upgrade it hasn't made much difference. thanks for your reply

13-01-2015, 12:48	#12
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by DS-Guy just wanted to be sure i will i be using move in future as it takes a long time to delete programmes off the pvr's hdd using the copy mode even though ds sent out a software upgrade it hasn't made much difference. thanks for your reply What exactly is taking the time when you delete manually? Is it the time to navigate the menus to find the delete option or what happens after you have pressed "Delete"? If it sits there whirring away processing the disk after you have pressed "Delete" then it is always possible that it will take just as much time using the Move option. The only bit that may be speeded up is the process of selecting the file and finding the Delete option by hand.

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