Thanks Telly - I will mention it to the v e t next time but I'm hoping that it's unlikely our dogs will come into contact with it, given their holiday arrangements

Our Cassie was rescued from Dog's Trust as a puppy. Her mum and pups were apparently left outside the gate one night in a cardboard box, mum tied to the gates. She was a mixture of all sorts, but so gentle, friendly and good with the children.

i would have been happy to have been your dog, you did what was best for her, i bet she was happy. She may have had a predisposition for kidney failure and maybe you gave her a better life than she may have had if she had been treated differently. Never beat yourself up when you did your best. xx

aww ive just seen Cassies picture she is gorgeous

Thank you Telly. Rushing off to Berlin sounds exciting.

I think our Spidey would make a fine policeman. He could sit on the burglars chests until they begged for mercy, and then sing his special version of jailhouse rock until they confessed all.

Thank you Janet. The weekend turned out pretty hot after all.

It isnt just for dogs in kennels, it is just like a common cold. I think it is usually only dangerous for old or sick dogs.

You obviously did everything you possibly could to give her a great life. Testing for kidney disease when there was no reason to suggest it wouldnt have been best for her. We cant be testing them for everything, and you followed the advice of a vet you trust.
I understand how you feel about not having another dog. I think about those we have lost every single day, but it is a shame that another dog wont benefit from the lovely life you can provide for them.
Maybe one day.

It depends on the breed. Generally small ones live longer, and larger ones shorter. Deerhounds and wolfhounds often only live for eight years.

It can be given by injection too.



Well, horses dont understand about placebos, and there is some very effective homeopathic medicine for horses, even if the method seems far fetched.





Well, i think it is supposed to be discussing the column, but there is a lot of dissing. I think its in showbiz.

Not fiance? Is it all off for good?

I haven't kept up with Liz Jones since she was on CBB but I remember that she was a bit strange, I don't think I warmed to her.

The lady who grazes her horses in our field is keen on homeopathy for her animals, particularly for the older ones - coincidentally I was only talking to her about it the other day.

Aww she is beautiful Cass, and, OMG, almost the spitting image of my late lamented Arthur, the Mad Giant Yorkie... *sobs a bit*

I see from the article that TW posted (very good article TW) that the infecting agent is a bordetella. As Bordetella pertussis is the name given to the organism that causes whopping cough in humans, I think kennel cough is quite a serious illness in dogs , especially in tiny puppies, and can be fatal. Some kennels won't accept dogs if they haven't a current vaccination certificate for kennel cough.I must pin the v e t down on the IV injection, as I always get worried about the large dose shot down, or maybe up(!) my dogs' noses, and the article seems to suggest that the intravenous route is better for dogs that have previously had the nasal route...

I must check out the Liz Jones thread! I think at the moment the engagement is off, again, but they are still an item. I really don't know why, seeing she is so mean about him in her column.

I think it is an umbrella term for several different organisms, including the whooping coughy one.
I should think that any dog going to the vet would be at risk?

I preferred the unidentified rock star to her latest one. I find him a bit passive aggressive.
She would be better off giving men a miss from now on.

I take it nobody is watching the poor cow Sam doing a sex show then? I saw a bit of the Bear Gryls show and i THINK they showed someone having diar ?dio? diasomething in full. Thankfully the subtitles were in the way.

Hello all

Honey I've not seen the sex show:
Er, who is the poor cow Sam?? Sam Fiers??

I don't know why Liz's boy friend hasn't dumped her long ago, do you?...

Good afternoon everyone.

Lovely weather in London, dry sunny, mild with a light breeze.

I think he must be addicted to sympathy?

No not that Sam. She is the one who has just had a baby isnt she? I mean the Sam who did the rudies with Marc in the last series even though he was always insulting her.
the show is called sex box I think, but i gave it a miss. Two second Steven has put me off that for ever.
Actually it would be interesting to see how many BB viewers watched it to see if some of us are justified in saying that we dont want to be watching sex on BB.

Afternoon, Eddy and all.
It is much warmer here now and I have started moaning about the weather already.

Good Afternoon Honey.:+))))))))))))))

I haven't seen whatever everyone has seen, but i'll watch sex in BB, only as evidence of course, but you can't moan about something you haven't seen surely?

We complain whatever the weather, don't feel alone, it's universal in this country.

The thing is, the type of people who will have sex with strangers for headlines tend to be very dull people who have no place on BB.

Good morning you lot.



Chilly breeze here but at least it's dry.

Morning Eddy. Its freezing here. *Moans*

Good Morning Everyone.:+)))))))

Not so nice today, wind and rain, not what i wanted really, but i suppose April showers wasn't thought up for no reason.


Hi Honey, those in BB are the same as those outside, if they want sex they have it, who with doesn't often matter, sex shouldn't be confused with love, people need sex the same as they need a meal, maybe not as often.


Good Morning Eddy.:+))))))))))))))))
A chilly breeze really ruins the day, how long will it stay dry for though.

Hello all


REALLLY Hicky?!! I'm quoting a bit out of context I know, but I am afraid I must have lead a very very quiet life....

At the risk of sounding like someone interested in the sex life of others,, does anyone know who the "married celebrity with children" is, who has been involved with suggesting a threesome with another couple??

I'm only really interested because the media have been banned from publishing his name..
Apparently it is OK to do this on Social media and in the USA..... **rolly eyed smilie"*

I wouldnt mind so much if they dropped to the floor and started rutting like deer, because I could ignore that for a couple of seconds, but all the BB sex that I can think of is either a fake romance or a miserable one sided attraction.

Yes, me too. I dont know anybody who treats sex like dinner. Mind you, I havent been in any restaurants lately so perhaps they combine it these days?

No. I havent heard anything about this, but isnt that a foursome?

Hi Moots, nothing wrong with living a quiet life, but you can miss out on a lot of fun.


Hi Moots, whoever would have thought enquiring about the sex life of others would suggest you were interested in the sex life of others.


Hi Honey, i don't really think they have fake romances, when 2 people are attracted to one another and living ina closed environment then it's obvious they want to

Hi Moots, nothing wrong with living a quiet life, but you can miss out on a lot of fun.


Hi Moots, whoever would have thought enquiring about the sex life of others would suggest you were interested in the sex life of others.


Hi Honey, i don't really think they have fake romances, when 2 people are attracted to one another and living ina closed environment then it's obvious they want to get together, or be together all the time, the same as theyu would on the outside.

You do live a sheltered life, like someone else we know. ha ha.

i hadn't heard about that - guess i must live a more sheltered life then you

It is often one wanting to be together for the duration of the deed and the other one wants to be together for ever. Marc last year clearly couldnt stand Sam, but it didnt stop him.

I had a weird dream last night that I was using your washing machine, Hicky. Very odd because there is nothing wrong with mine and even though i have seen your lovely kitchen I dont even remember your washing machine.

Hi Mootle.

You might find some clues on the DS Showbiz forum. Look at this thread where it is being discussed along with a lot of other gossip:

Click this.

Do other people get the full National enquirer to read? I only see front pages.

No, you would have to have a subscription.

Oh thanks Eddy. I dont think I will bother if it just carries stories about the nobody partner of someone who hasn't had a decent record for twenty-five years having a liason with a couple i have never even heard of.