I just can't stop listening to this album. It's definitely my favourite Lana album to date. It's her most cohesive album, imo, and most uplifting. I adore every single song on it whereas I find myself skipping through various tracks on her other albums. Honeymoon is a truly beautiful album from beginning to end.

I've been on a bit of a Lana Del Rey binge this past week listening to Honeymoon and her previous albums. Born To Die still has some great singles but outside of them is a naff album and seems to be getting even worse as it ages, Ultraviolence is a massive step up and huge improvement, and Honeymoon is her improving even more and producing her best album so far. To me Honeymoon is what Born To Die should have been.

Great summary of the album spaceygal. Like you say it’s possibly her most uplifting album and it’s fair to say it’s been her most critically acclaimed album to date as well.

Clearly it’s divided opinion amongst fans on the web, but I’m not sure why cause it’s a really great record. There does seem to be a consensus in fan circles there are some of the best songs she's ever done on Honeymoon. I’d like to see her release the likes of Freak and Religion as singles.

In general it strikes me with Lana it’s become a case that she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't and people always seem moan either way whatever she does. She realises this and I admire how she got a screw what anyone thinks and just gets on with it attitude. She’s made her money so she’s in totally creatively free place where she can make anything she wants with total creative freedom. That must be a liberating place to be.

Great example of that is this totally out of the blue eccentric photoshoot she’s just done for the obscure art magazine the Marfa Journal. Aside from some totally random humorous shots of Lana camping and posing on a surf board on the cover (I believe that's a Beach Boys tribute) it’s got some very cool arty fashion shots as well. Love it and it looks like Lana had fun with the shoot:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...g-marfa-photos

Just add to that going off SpaceToliets comment; You've got a bunch of people now that love Born To Die and seem to hate everything else she does and another group that love the other albums but have gone off Born To Die. Who's right?

Personally I've loved all her albums for different reasons. It’s really taught me that people really zone on the style of production on the albums she's made and if they don't like that then they hate the album.

Born To Die was largely produced by Lana's pal and former Eminem producer Emile Haynie. I think he gets a lot of undue stick for his production on Born To Die-hey it sold 7 million. I have seen some top producers compliment him on what he did on the album as well, a lot of them think he did some really innovative things with beats on the album that are hard tricks to emulate.

But it does strike me that anything heavily using whatever the latest electronic music production techniques goes in and out of fashion quickly. It’s inevitable that it ages more quickly as whatever the latest electronic bag of tricks replace it.

In contrast UV and Honeymoon are more about real instrumentation with a little electronica here and there. They've probably got a more timeless sound to them because of this and wont age. Yet commercially speaking this obviously doesn’t prove to be as popular with the kids out there as the electronic sounding album.

I loved Lana's albums Born To Die and Ultraviolence. I thought both had a selection of great tracks (and a few that were just alright) but I havent found this third album as enjoyable personally. I like "Freak", "24" and "Salvatore" the best but overall prefer the feel of Born To Die still.

Not strictly Honeymoon related, but I can't resist linking these two stories.

It appears Lana and Foals are mutual fans, the way he describes their meeting in Paris made me giggle:

http://www.nme.com/news/foals/89043




Also Dave Gahan of Depeche mode is apparently a converted Del Rey fan too thanks to his daughter:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...vers-interview

I don't really like the album much at all I'm afraid. It's not really the direction of the album that bothers me, I actually like Lana doing this kind of thing - I just think the songs themselves are the problem, they are mostly a collection of pretty yet boring songs. It's the Rick Nowels trademark, just extremely safe music (this is the guy who wrote for Dido in her heyday!).

I'm not giving up on Lana but next time hope she gets a writer(s) who is willing to take a few risks and take her out of her comfort zone.

Hey look as always I'm not going to put a gun to your head and tell you that you must like Honeymoon Rocketpop.

I've honestly really loved Honeymoon and I feel there are songs on the album that could work very well as singles if they are promoted. Whether that will happen or not is another question. Lana's real problem is that its always an uphill battle to get radio to play her music and unless she makes some spectacular video or they get used on films/TV/adverts it can be difficult to attract mainstream interest.

Rick Nowels has worked with a mixture of cool people and cheesy people throughout his career. I personally don't think his talent is in doubt, he's generally performed to whatever standard is required of him.

As far as his work with Lana goes we're looking at everything from Summertime Sadness, Young and Beautiful, Body Electric, Cola to the songs on this album etc, etc. I'd say he's got a pretty good track record at collaborating on some of her best loved songs. I don't have an issue with the work they've made together.

When it was announced it was just her and Rick on this album I did initially worry they'd taken too much work on. However I'm honestly really pleased with the results and its something of a personal victory for her. I'm not against her working with multiple producers, she already seems to have indicated the next album will go down that route again, but I don't think it sounds worse for it being just her and Rick.

Just going back to something you said on earlier on the thread it does surprise me that Lana never worked with Justin Parker (Video Games, Born to Die, Ride etc) again, but I don't think the music she has done since has necessarily suffered without him. Maybe both Lana and Justin felt they'd taken that partnership as far as it could go and decided it was time to move on.

Also I would say don't underestimate the role Lana plays in writing the songs too. True she doesn't get involved in the instrumentation of songs and relies on the songwriters/producers she works with for that but she does come up with the melody (as well as the lyrics) of the songs herself.

Check this interview out with long time collaborator Dan Heath talking about the Big Eyes sountrack for evidence of that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMDcW2h3qVE


Shock horror (was it ever in doubt?) Lana really does come up with the ideas for her own material.

That's because she is an incredible songwriter! Seriously, in the 4 years since Video Games first introduced her to the World she has written a quite unbelievable number of classic tunes! Video Games, Off To The Races, Born To Die, Blue Jeans, Summertime Sadness, Ride, Gods And Monsters, Cruel World, Brooklyn Baby, Old Money, The Blackest Day, Terence Loves You, Religion....the list goes on. Not forgetting the over 100 demos we have so far heard, many of which the other 'pop girls' would have had no hesitation in putting on their albums!

I just love the fact that she's turned out to be exactly the opposite to what her early haters (detractors is in no way a strong enough word to use to describe some of these despicable people) suggested she was - manufactured/talentless/desperate for fame, money etc etc. She just makes the music she wants to, doesn't seem interested in protistuting herself on the usual promo circuit or any of the fame that being a pop star could bring. She's a one-off.

Bloody hell Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth is turning into the world's biggest Lana troll:
http://www.nme.com/news/kim-gordon/89165


Oh well if that's true keep up the good work Kim! I'm sure the real motive of your attacks has nothing to do with promoting your dreary book at all...

I know the world has gone Adele crazy at the mo, but I can't resist mentioning Lana won an MTV EMA award this week for best alternative artist. Nice one and good to see she's still getting some respect for her latest album. Just hope that inspires her (and perhaps more crucially her label) to keep promoting Honeymoon over the coming months.

Love Lana! Isn't The Other Woman on Ultravionce a Nina Simone song?


Thanks for the heads up, will listen to the new album on Spotify on my way to work tomorrow morning

Think that's both a slap in the face for Lana and for Alternative music.

Giving her the award simply because she's not popular enough right now for a mainstream award. Lana isn't an alternative artist (that's not a diss) there are plenty of acts who deserve the award more. It's just extremely lazy.

lo: The Other Women is indeed a Nina Simone song and it’s good to see you've discovered Honeymoon. Unfortunately that comment also shows the lack of publicity is leading to people not even releasing a new Lana Del Rey album exists. See this is what pisses me off, if people got to hear her songs what could the results be? Case of point when Gods and Monsters went Top 40 after getting played on the EastEnders ads.

She’s still doing interviews with various magazines on a worldwide basis; most recently Billboard in the US and the Turkish edition of Vogue. In the UK any form of promotion seems rather frustratingly thin on the ground.

The animosity between her and the press surely doesn’t help things. I don’t want Lana burning herself into the ground and giving herself more stomach ulcers like what happened pre-launch of Ultraviolence. But you think, c’mon Lana at least give this thing a punch on the nose so you can feel fully satisfied that when you sing God Knows I Tried you really did. “Flames so hot that they turn blue.” Love that lyric so much, c’mon show us that blue fire. Sing it to us.

Live shows, last time I looked she was rather amazing at doing them. Check out the recent Radio 1 performance any non-believers out there if you doubt me. A performance of that quality of Terence Loves You on something like the relaunched TFI Friday would be incredible and would change a lot of peoples minds about her. Tour would be nice. Doesn’t have to be a full tour of town after town like the Paradise tour was, a whirlwind tour of capital cities would do. Got a nasty feeling it wont happen now.

I dunno maybe the upswing (as Lana suggested in the Radio 1 interview) of not touring is she can give us new albums every 15 months or so. I can’t complain about that really. Just sad more people don't get to hear those albums, but its fun been part of Lana's cult and seeing what she does next.

Something I took from the Billboard interview…where she talks about death again….I’m sure Kim from Sonic Youth is writing another book about these comments as we speak…is that maybe it’s all these dark fears she has that make her so super productive. I don’t see her as a morbid person as some perceive her but more someone who really is living for ever second and trying to do everything she can in that time.

Rocketpop: In a round about way there's sort of truth there in what you say. What genre of music is Lana? She isn't a pop act, she isn't a regular indie/alternative act. It’s hard to fit her into Pidgeon holes that award ceremonies and journalist like so much because she doesn’t fit into them.

It’s been a constant theme on this thread trying to define what genre Honeymoon is as an album. Keep coming back to jazz, but it isn’t a conventional jazz record either. Ultraviolence was a guitar album, yet it didn’t sound like anybody else’s guitar album. Born to Die was supposedly pop but it didn’t sound like anybody else’s pop album. She’s her own genre: “Hollywood Sadcore,” “Narco Swing,” “Future Retro” or whatever other lovely turn of phrase she wants to call it. And that's what I adore about her.

Lana is reportedly back in the studio with Justin Parker. Could she releasing yet another album next year? It's like the Sixties lol.

Another award; Lana to be honoured as with the Trailblazer award at Billboard's women in music event:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ev...women-in-music

And I'm delighted with Lana and Justin working together again. Love the picture of them together in the studio that's been doing the rounds. Its like family reunion picture, I remember seeing Parker say in an interview that she became like his "little sister" when they worked together before. Can't wait to hear the results and yeah, another Lana Del Rey album on the way in a year or so. Incredible productivity that's up there with the likes of Prince and the great 60's bands.

http://www.spin.com/2015/11/lana-del...-cover-stream/

Another film sountrack, but on a smaller scale; Lana sings Some Things Last A Long Time on the soundtrack of low budget short Hi How Are You Daniel Johnston?

Just a follow up on that last linked story, Lana and Mr Daniel Johnson himself, interviewed at the premier of this film:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...-film-premiere

Really wonderful interview and story of how this film came to be made. Lana paid a significant amount of money towards the crowd funding as she's a big fan of his. Naturally they couldn't resist having her lend her vocal talents too. As the story puts it a real labour of love between all involved.

Decided to give this album a go on Spotify tonight... and now I'm just finishing up my second start-to-finish listen. Wow. Seriously impressed. It really conjures up images of old-school, film noir style Hollywood. For me, this could be a late contender for album of the year (though I guess there's still another certain powerful songstress due to release).

I have took a shine to several of Lana's songs in the past (particularly West Coast and Blue Jeans) but have never listened to a complete album of hers before now. I think I've got some catching up to do...

Kind of feels like Lana has dropped this album and done a runner......where is the promo and performances to keep the era afloat?!

I love Lana but yes, this bothers me. She did the same thing with Ultraviolence and it was very frustrating.

I know it was probably because it was her first album but BTD has so much promo and I don't think Ultraviolence or Honeymoon got even half the amount.

She began work on Honeymoon shortly after UV so maybe,

I am noticing she is very keen to move on from her albums. UV came and went in a flash.

I wish she wasn't. Let us savour that wonderful moment of a new release a little longer. I'd like to see her do more TV and radio interviews in general, too, and I wish she'd come to the UK more often like when she was first making it big.

If she's just going to churn out albums with no real attention given to promoting or performing her current songs or even just keeping her name out there, then she's going to fade very quickly and simply be reliant on her already established fanbase to keep her afloat.

This is what worries me.
The buzz for each album will just get less and less if this approach continues, especially if there isn't a big hit single to keep her name out there with the general music fan.
High By The Beach came and went without making as much as a ripple, in the UK at least. Her last big single was probably West Coast.
Please Lana, do some proper promo!