Common sense prevails!

*blushes*
Thank you

Yet again proving what a disgusting woman she is.

Well, you are in a unique position to give us the inside scoop.

Did your cousin tell you how she felt about this and why she reacted in this way?

It's very rarely we get to hear things 'straight from the horse's mouth', as it were.

Helen has already explained on twitter. She was minding her own business and once again they decided to personally attack her. This is something which happens on a weekly basis now.

Helen showed great restraint under the circumstances.

That's why I said the "inside scoop". We can all see what people say via social media, but you can actually find out how she really feels, and if she was joking with what she said about Matthew. I'm sure many Big Brother forumites would be really interested in this kind of insight.

Helen has already made this claim shortly after the end of BB15.

She tweeted this many weeks ago too.

Along with saying that she loved to wind them all up. ( some BB HM's)

She has tried to get into a twitter war with a few people and most have ignored her.

She wanted the headlines and fodder for her ridiculous column.



I doubt Matthew cares a jot what Helen thinks of him .He has said things too so it is all tit for tat.

Helen is in my top three most disgusting HM's ever and she even went on to make me dislike her even more when she got out of the house.

Awww, she does loads of stuff for "charideeeee" does she? She's really the milk of human kindness...

Newsflash, Jimmy Savile was knighted for his charity work. It means bugger all, and often unpleasant people use it as something to hide behind. I'm always suspicious of people who boast about all the wonderful charity work they do, in my experience they are usually raging narcissists.

Is anyone surprised? This is just typical Helen.


That was ice-cold

I agree. Their tweets were pretty disgusting, plus Toya was one of the most overbearing unpleasant narcissists they've ever had in that house so I'm not sure why she doesn't attract the same ire. Cos she didn't win and hates Helen and wasn't a prostitute once?

Calling any human "it" is a bugbear of mine, maybe cos I've got an interest in stuff like genocide and hate anything that dehumanises. It is, in my opinion, the most denigrating insult but also manages to make the person saying it seem like an imperious hateful arsehole.


100% this. I'm not understanding why outing someone after provocation (especially when shes not actually outing him if hes not living a secret gay life, so it's essentially a juvenile pathetic "you're gay" putdown) is worse than suggesting someone has STDs, calling her a whore when she's no longer a prostitute and has talked about her shame, and describing her as "it".

Call her a big-mouthed bully, psycho, etc. That'd be nearer the mark. But let's not pretend their remarks were less awful simply because they're directed at someone more unpopular.

I agree with this. I once new a guy who wouldn't miss shouting abuse and hurling bricks, bottles etc every single time he passed a certain house of someone he couldn't stand. That guy took the abuse long enough until 1 night he ran out with a hammer and smashed the offenders head in, which killed him. Moral of the story is don't continually poke at something and expect sympathy if that something comes back at you with similar or harder actions.

No, not you. I meant the housemates.
Sorry for not making myself clear to you about that.

Eurgh, they all as bad as each other. Nearly 5 months on and they're still airing their dirty laundry over Twitter.

Yes I agree but am questioning the timing.

Also Steven has made this announcement about the wedding of the century (as if there is anyone interested )and other housemates have stolen the limelight.

This all at the time of cbb.

I agree Its simple any housemate involved in twitter wars are as bad as each other.

That's the beauty of Helen. She does a lot of charity work in the background but she doesn't shout it from the rooftops. She made the MacMillan coffee morning public as she has a twitter following of over 70,000 people to reach out to. If you have that platform then you should use it. The charity is the winner at the end of the day.

God she is vile. What were the British public smoking when they voted her the winner?!

So Toya started it. Gosh surprise surprise. How typical that she throws the grenade then scurries off to let her minions take the fallout.


I agree with both your points here. Toya is a horrible bitter person who never got over the fact there was a bigger Queen Bee in the house. Any other year she would have been high up the hate list but we're expected to think she's one of the good guys simply because she didn't like Helen. Like you, I also think it's extremely degrading to call someone "it" so I found this whole conversation pretty disgusting. If they had to bitch like that, why not do it in private? The only answer is that they wanted to cause some trouble.

That said, Helen's not actually tagged in the conversation. I don't know if she follows Matthew and Toya but I'd be surprised if she did. So who was the Tell Tale Tit who got Helen involved?

What right does she have to bleat on about Matthew being gay? It's totally possible to have straight men who act camp. So either, in Helen's logic, Matthew must be gay because he sounds gay or she actually has some gossip on him. I can't for one second imagine Matthew would have chosen Helen to confess something so personal to. If Helen does actually know something then it more than likely came from someone Matthew thought he could trust. Or maybe she just put 2 and 2 together and thought if Mark's so infatuated with him then he must be gay. Anyway. just saying this seems more guesswork than fact so I'm not taking Helen's comment seriously.

Then we had Christopher Hall wading in with his two penn'orth. I totally agree with him that outing people is wrong and Helen should have just told Matthew to eff off rather than speculate on his sexuality. But did Christopher seriously think Helen would take any notice of him? All that did was provide another target for Helen's baying fans to turn on.

Provoking Helen is like prodding a hornet's nest. Don't moan when you get stung. I don't know why all these losers can't just move on. Keep in touch with the housemates they genuinely like and ignore all the rest. BB was, at most, 10 weeks of their lives. Much less for Toya and Matthew. They should just treat it as that then let it go.

but she isnt, and she rarely does.
forum judging again,
matthew is constantly antagonizing her

the thing is though she was a prostitute she even made money going to the papers and selling stories about being a prostitute and loved dropping little tales about it, it's what gave her the fame she is so desperately clinging on to....so what's her problem with being called one?
can someone explain to me i don't understand

To those who think outing is ok. A person's sexuality is their business. It is their choice to come out when and if they are ready. Hopefully one day soon it won't be an issue but to many it still is. You cannot condone a behaviour just because you dislike the recipient of the behaviour. Helen is appalling and Matthew is a bitchy little whinge bag - still don't agree with him being outed.

i agree with you, it can effect people's work as well as family relationships etc - it shouldn't but it can do.

And Rufus, you know you can still adore Helen but admit she made a mistake on this one. We all do sometimes. You'd be a far more credible advocate if you can see that.

Clearly was always a gay. Sickening.

I doubt the issue was someone stating a fact. More that she was called a whore (not past tense), referred to as "it", and the connection made with her having STDs. None of which is fact. Plus it was said by two nemesises...nemesii....neme....enemies.


Is he gay and has she outed him? Cos I keep hearing "its terrible to out someone" as if he's a gay man who's had his choice taken away, but isn't the issue that it's pathetic in this day and age to call someone gay as if it's an insult? That's actually what she's done as far as I can tell...reverted to playground taunts after receiving playground taunts.

thanks i didn't see all the tweets just ones where they used the word prostitute.