The Ratings Thread (Part 63)

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davey_wavey

22-01-2015

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“For anyone who watches Silent Witness, is there a particular reason why it is doing so well and recording some of its highest numbers in years?”

I don't know why it has grown so much, but I for one am very pleased and will take a stab at guessing. I think the show has built up a strong reputation over the years to tell some really gripping, well written stories which could explain the rise in audiences, good word of mouth etc and the show is now reaping rewards. And each two part story is very different and self contained. So even if you miss a story, it doesn't necessarily matter, as a casual viewer you can easily dip in and out. Each story is very different, so I imagine it caters to a very broad section of the viewing audience. If you like action, horror or a straightforward whodunnit, Silent Witness provides those elements in every story.

Plus the main cast is now very settled and it's a talented cast of strong actors.

cylon6

22-01-2015

Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“I do think the Silent Witness stories have upped their game this year. In the past they could get quite obscure and meandering, I guess after so many years covering pretty much every type of case. But this year they seem to have homed in on topics that are of immediate public concern and by chance had some topicality. Casual viewers might have been grabbed by that..”

That's a good point. I think the stories over the last couple of series were strong, but this year I think they've gone up a notch. The scheduling also helped. Another thing that worked was the trailers. The sniper one got my friends talking before it aired and they didn't watch any episodes last year or the year before. It picked up some casual viewers and kept them.

stv viewer

22-01-2015

I think Silent Witness is winning as people prefer to fast forward the ads so Broadchurch will look higher when that us included. But well done to Silent Witness great show and long may it continue

stv viewer

22-01-2015

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That's a good point. I think the stories over the last couple of series were strong, but this year I think they've gone up a notch. The scheduling also helped. Another thing that worked was the trailers. The sniper one got my friends talking before it aired and they didn't watch any episodes last year or the year before. It picked up some casual viewers and kept them.”

I also think Clarissa and Jack are likeable characters

jlp95bwfc

23-01-2015

ED and EE both deserve boosts from Tuesday. I really enjoyed ED with the shock twist involving Rachel. Corrie needs to take note and keep some aspects of storylines away from spoilers. It's great not knowing exactly what is going to happen.

Zac Quinn

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Couldn't see this posted anywhere else:

Sherlock, Top Gear and Murdered By My Boyfriend drive record-breaking 2014 on BBC iPlayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...yer-2014-stats

on my browser it's not formatted properly, but copy/paste almost works:

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Programme Episode Total Requests Sherlock Series 3 The Empty Hearse Episode 1 4,186,900 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 1 3,809,400 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 3 3,417,800 Top Gear Series 21 Burma Special - Part 1 Episode 6 3,341,400 Sherlock Series 3 The Sign of Three Episode 2 3,329,000 Sherlock Series 3 His Last Vow Episode 3 3,209,300 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 2 3,085,100 Murdered by My Boyfriend 23/06/2014 3,022,400 Outnumbered Series 5 Episode 1 2,859,600 Doctor Who Series 8 Deep Breath Episode 1 2,804,500 Top Gear Series 21 Burma Special - Part 2 Episode 7 2,797,700 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 4 2,547,500 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 5 2,464,300 The Great British Bake Off Series 5 Cake Episode 1 2,312,800 Top Gear Patagonia Special, Part 1 27/12/2014 2,285,700 Outnumbered Series 5 Episode 2 2,240,100 Outnumbered Series 5 Episode 3 2,170,800 The Apprentice Series 10 Online Video Channel Episode 4 2,085,900 The Apprentice Series 10 Advertising - New York Episode 7 2,070,600 Outnumbered Series 5 Episode 4 Top 20 TV episodes – best-performing episode per series Programme Episode Total Requests Sherlock Series 3 The Empty Hearse Episode 1 4,186,900 Top Gear Series 21 Episode 1 3,809,400 Murdered by My Boyfriend 23/06/2014 3,022,400 Outnumbered Series 5 Episode 1 2,859,600 Doctor Who Series 8 Deep Breath Episode 1 2,804,500 The Great British Bake Off Series 5 Cake Episode 1 2,312,800 The Apprentice Series 10 Online Video Channel Episode 4 2,085,900 The Voice UK Series 3 Blind Auditions 1 Episode 1 2,027,700 The Missing Episode 1 2,005,500 Happy Valley Episode 1 1,983,100 Gnomeo & Juliet 09/12/2011 1,913,000 Bad Education Series 3 Strike 1,825,700 Our Girl Series 1 Episode 1 1,799,000 Ja'mie: Private School Girl Episode 1 1,753,600 Waterloo Road Series 9 Episode 11 1,730,500 EastEnders 25/12/2014 1,729,200 The Dumping Ground Series 2 Endurance Episode 7 1,699,600 The Musketeers Episode 1 1,694,100 Life and Death Row Execution Episode 1 1,642,900 The Honourable Woman The Empty Chair Episode 1 1,614,900

K”

Thanks for reposting this. Fascinating. I wonder, with others shows now beginning to consolidate equally as impressively as those which make up that list, how much more diverse the 2015 equivalent will look when it's released next January.

cylon6

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Thanks for reposting this. Fascinating. I wonder, with others shows now beginning to consolidate equally as impressively as those which make up that list, how much more diverse the 2015 equivalent will look when it's released next January.”

I hope when BARB sort out ratings for tablets/smartphones/mobiles etc, that they are added to weekly figures. I think some shows would be boosted by up to 2m or more in ratings. Ratings might be similar to the highs of the mid to late noughties.

cylon6

23-01-2015

Surprised Doctor Who didn't get another top 20 placing for the finale.

Zac Quinn

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I hope when BARB sort out ratings for tablets/smartphones/mobiles etc, that they are added to weekly figures. I think some shows would be boosted by up to 2m or more in ratings. Ratings might be similar to the highs of the mid to late noughties.”

The figure of 4.2m requests for 'The Empty Hearse' is astonishing - it's almost enough to make me want to take a sabbatical from this thread until BARB include the iPlayer figures, because what's the point!!

FWIW it's worth I thought Cucumber was great fun, although definitely an acquired taste and I hope it doesn't do too well, because as we know that would only lead to C4 squeezing every last drop out of it until the show's very name is the stuff of Ratings Thread nightmares

Jonwo

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“The figure of 4.2m requests for 'The Empty Hearse' is astonishing - it's almost enough to make me want to take a sabbatical from this thread until BARB include the iPlayer figures, because what's the point!!

FWIW it's worth I thought Cucumber was great fun, although definitely an acquired taste and I hope it doesn't do too well, because as we know that would only lead to C4 squeezing every last drop out of it until the show's very name is the stuff of Ratings Thread nightmares ”

RTD has said Cucumber is a one-off but Banana might continue if it does well for E4

dave01

23-01-2015

Some of that 4.2m iplayer requests will already be included in the officials by BARB. At present anything that is watched on a TV in a BARB household will be included, whether that's live, recorded or iPlayed. Anyone who iPlayed onto a computer, phone, tablet etc will not yet be included.

My fairly average budget range Freeview TV/PVR setup has Iplayer on it, which gets used more often than recordings when it comes to the BBC channels. Commercial channels I still record though to skip the ads.

D.M.N.

23-01-2015

The One Show: 4.61m (23.0%)
EastEnders: 7.23m (34.4%)
Room 101: 3.91m (17.5%)
EastEnders: 6.90m (28.7%)
Death in Paradise: 6.50m (29.0%)

Celebrity Big Brother: 2.32m (10.3%) exc +1
Cucumber (inc +1): 974k (4.3%) / 1.23m (5.5%)
* last in 21:00 slot

lewiep93

23-01-2015

That's a very disappointing rating for Cucumber. I can see why it got the rating though.

Was still a cracking bit of telly though.

northlad

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The One Show: 4.61m (23.0%)
EastEnders: 7.23m (34.4%)
Room 101: 3.91m (17.5%)
EastEnders: 6.90m (28.7%)
Death in Paradise: 6.50m (29.0%)

Celebrity Big Brother: 2.32m (10.3%) exc +1
Cucumber (inc +1): 974k (4.3%) / 1.23m (5.5%)
* last in 21:00 slot”

That is shocking for Cucumber expected at least 2 million,C4 really has a problem getting people to watch their dramas.

cylon6

23-01-2015

Thanks DMN.

Cucumber looks like it'll drop in the ratings. Were less people watching TV last night compared to the previous Thursday? Death In Paradise has had a 29% share for three weeks.

kwynne42

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by JordyD:
“Just shows, it's not the channel - it's the shows. People only interested in watching shows not channels.”

That of course is the way it should be.

lewiep93

23-01-2015

Media Guardian ‏@mediaguardian now
C4's Russell T Davies drama #Cucumber kicks off with 1.2m/5.5% - E4 spinoff Banana had 408,000/2.4% #tvratings

cylon6

23-01-2015

DMN do you have any daytime ratings?

wizzywick

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by ftv:
“Timothy West and Linda Henry were outstanding on EE tonight”

I thought the girl who played Nancy was the stand out performance. Her reaction to Linda's rape news was heart wrenchingly real.

lewiep93

23-01-2015

Anything for Birds of a Feather? Would be interesting to see if it dropped against EE.

kwynne42

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“ED and EE both deserve boosts from Tuesday. I really enjoyed ED with the shock twist involving Rachel. Corrie needs to take note and keep some aspects of storylines away from spoilers. It's great not knowing exactly what is going to happen.”

Corrie gives away ALL its spoilers a good 6-9 months before they happen, so by the time you do see the storylines you presume you have seen them already, perhaps that's one of the reason its ratings have been falling.

Emmerdale on the other hand quite often keeps its storylines secret or the spoilers lie.

Markynotts

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks DMN.

Cucumber looks like it'll drop in the ratings. We're less people watching TV last night compared to the previous Thursday? Death In Paradise has had a 29% share for three weeks.”

Cucumber was an appallingly bad piece of television full of clichéd stereotypes and deserved the rating that it received. Just what was RTD thinking of when he penned this awful drama ? Do Channel 4 even read the scripts of shows that they have commissioned. This was certainly no QAF and deserves to rot away slowly.

RobbieSykes123

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by northlad:
“That is shocking for Cucumber expected at least 2 million,C4 really has a problem getting people to watch their dramas.”

Was never going to get that although I expected it to be slightly above 1m not slightly under. Didn't think Cucumber was too bad, it wasn't very "in your face", so quite watchable for a mainstream audience, with a likeable lead. Queer as Folk in Slippers.

Banana was one for the kids. Felt like a cheap retread of QAF and there simply to fulfil the multi platform requirement and the needs of the Cucumber/Banana/Tofu joke - which was more than adequately and not too subtly explained anyway in the amusing opening scene of Cucumber.

wizzywick

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Cucumber was an appallingly bad piece of television full of clichéd stereotypes and deserved the rating that it received. Just what was RTD thinking of when he penned this awful drama ? Do Channel 4 even read the scripts of shows that they have commissioned. This was certainly no QAF and deserves to rot away slowly.”

Can I ask a serious question? Pardon me if i come across as ignorant, but is there a need in 21st Century Britain to show a drama series about how gay people are perceived in the world? Like any other group of humans, it seems only the extreme end of the spectrum are portrayed. If gay people are shown on TV it's usually the OTT camp stereotype who thinks sleeping around and ABBA are the be all of life. If people on documentaries about benefits are shown it is always the sponger that is shown, never the guy who hates being on benefits and wants to go to work.

In my opinion showing gay people in such a negative, care free light as Cucumber did, will do far more to harm the public perception of what it is like to be gay than anything else will. I understand it that in this day and age, homosexuality is largely accepted and not frowned upon compared to the 80's and 90's. This programme has the potential to put public feeling back by 20 years.

cylon6

23-01-2015

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“That's a very disappointing rating for Cucumber. I can see why it got the rating though.

Was still a cracking bit of telly though.”

Originally Posted by northlad:
“That is shocking for Cucumber expected at least 2 million,C4 really has a problem getting people to watch their dramas.”

I thought Cucumber would be good for 2m after all of that promotion. It has had a mixed reaction too so I wouldn't be surprised to see it drop.

Sometimes I wonder is there much point for huge marketing budgets? Posters, displays in Westminster and that's all you get.

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