The last few weeks there have been 'excuses' for Corrie with tough competition from EastEnders live episode overrunning last week and there's been the Six Nations Rugby too. This week Corrie had relatively easy and normal competition.

It would seem that way sadly.

DS has updated. Bear Grylls got 3.03m (14.1%) without +1, so I assume that'll be about 3.3m with +1, so very slightly higher than last week. 2.84m (13.2%) for The Musketeers.

NCIS: New Orleans: 1.01m (4.7%)
NCIS: 0.95m (5.7%)
exc. +1

Working well as a pairing as you'd expect. The original is outshining the spinoff though in a more challenging slot. Hope New Orleans can grow a bit, I am enjoying it.

Well I dont agree with that at all. Last year CS had Hayleys death then the murder and a few weeks ago the bus crash and ratings returned to normal virtually straight away as they normally do for all the soaps in those circumstances. I can see no evidence that EE somehow loses momentum any quicker than any of the other soaps.

Another point that the anti EE posters seems not to acknowledge is that in December EE could not hit 7m at all and averaged around 6.5-6.7m overnights while since Xmas it has hit 7m more often than not and must be averaging more like 7.5m. At the same time as far as I can see ED/CS have increased not much if at all in CS case.

I said yesterday that EE ratings speak for themselves and I stand by that. For most of last year (except for the special eps) EE was 1m behind CS and 3-400k ahead of ED but now EE is pushing close to CS and getting on for 1m ahead of ED. Its had momentum since Xmas as far as I can see but if the critics want to just pick up the low eps/clashes then so be it.

I don't think anyone is doing that. Of course EE is up since Xmas. The show would be dead if it wasn't. They may as well not have bothered with the Lucy storyline if that was the case. The issue is that if Corrie is rating poorly as some claim then EE is also rating poorly seeing as it continues to be so much better than Corrie and has had as big a promotional push as it's likely to get anytime in the next 5 years. To have returned to pre "big week" levels so quickly is poor (even if it hasn't yet returned to pre Xmas levels). I still think the ridiculous reveal may be partly to blame for turning viewers away again. It made me realise why I don't watch EE.

Corrie clearly has a bigger "default audience" and a higher base of loyal viewers. I can't seriously see it posting the same year on year drops throughout this year as it did last year even if the quality remains poor (they'd have switched off by now surely if they were going to). This isn't good for the soaps in the long run because EE seemingly can't put pressure on Corrie. The best thing to come from EE 30th would've been a sustained period of them beating Corrie in the ratings. This would've made ITV act to improve Corrie. I'm struggling to see how EE is going to pull ahead now if it's 30th promotion push has failed to do that. Surely the next 12 months can't match what EE has produced in the last 12 months leading up to the 30th.

Here we go... EE Fans already making excuses

Ratings thread logic:

7.2m and 6.9m = "good for Corrie".

7.2m = EastEnders in crisis.

And then we wonder why people laugh at our thread.

February was a big month for Eastenders and the 30th anniversary week has seen its monthly average increase by 850k year-on-year to 8.11m (35.9%). This is the soap's highest monthly average since January 2013. The highest rating of the month came on Thursday 19th with an hour long epsisode pulling 10.84m (44.7%) and a peak of 11.9m, marking the highest episode rating since Christmas Day 2010. Meanwhile the lowest rating of the month came on the 26th with 6.15m (27.9%). In highly unusual circumstances, both the highest and the lowest episodes of the month clashed with Emmerdale for 15 minutes.

*** February 2014 and 2015 both featured two 15 minute Emmerdale clashes, one with a 30min EE and one with a 60min EE; I've not removed the 60min EE episodes that clashed with Emmerdale for 15minutes.


2015
Jan - 7.26m (32.1%)
Feb - 8.11m (35.9%)
* W/O Emm clash - 8.24m (36.4%) ***

2014
Jan - 7.33m (31.8%)
Feb - 7.26m (31.8%)
* W/O Emm clash - 7.32m (32.0%) ***
Mar - 6.86m (31.4%)
Apr - 6.97m (33.3%)
May - 6.52m (31.9%)
Jun - 5.45m (28.1%)
Jul - 5.19m (27.8%)
Aug - 5.71m (29.5%)
Sep - 6.10m (30.5%)
Oct - 6.62m (31.6%)
Nov - 6.68m (31.0%)
Dec - 6.73m (30.5%)


Previous February average overnights
2015 - 8.11m (35.9%)
2014 - 7.26m (31.8%)
2013 - 7.51m (31.8%)
2012 - 8.24m (34.9%)
2011 - 8.70m (36.2%)
2010 - 10.34m (41.3%) [25th anniversary month]
2009 - 8.69m (36.2%)


Last EE ratings update

The Iplayer pack for January is out, so an update for Eastenders Iplayer monthly average ratings, based on the entries that appear in the Iplayer top 20 each month.

2015
Jan - 1.35m

2014
Jan - 1.19m
Feb - 1.32m
Mar - 1.04m
Apr - 1.12m
May - 1.08m
Jun - 1.04m
Jul - 946k
Aug - 915k (minor data issues, some views not caputured)
Sep - 885k (minor date issues, some views not captured)
Oct - 1.15m (30 day catch-up window introduced 4th Oct)
Nov - 1.06m
Dec - 1.31m

Previous January Iplayer ratings
2015 - 1.35m
2014 - 1.19m
2013 - 1.07m
2012 - 707k
2011 - 525k
2010 - 404k


Last EE Iplayer update

Who said EastEnders was in crisis?

Indeed, I suspect more members on here would claim that 7.2m is bad for Corrie and good for EastEnders, which is probably a greater cause of entertainment.

BBC One's evening ended with 3.72 million (28.3%) for The Graham Norton Show at 10.35pm. This week's guests included David Beckham, Will Smith, Margot Robbie and Hugh Jackman.

Fantastic rating and share for Norton. The highest in a while. It beat the previous three shows, A Question of Sport, Room 101 and The Musketeers comfortably.

I can't tell if you're just joking or actually being serious. This thread is absolutely infested with Eastenders haters!

Well as we saw from Anniversary week, but those haters are easily outnumbered by EE lovers. This thread was full of love last week for EE. Very little hate.

Its nice to see Bear Grylls show go up, but I still believe it would be doing at least another 1m-1.5m higher on a Saturday after Takeaway or postponed until Top Gear finishes and placed on Sunday at 8pm.

Again poor scheduling has hit it. It just does not fir the audience profile ITV are aiming for following on from double Corrie, or Friday. I imagine though if it remains at the 3m-3.5m rate it will get a recommission, since its bringing in a good male demographic.

Oh I'm serious. I'm sure you'd find several members on here who would claim that. They aren't entirely wrong either. Corrie traditionally gets bigger ratings than EastEnders and therefore should get higher audiences. Much like EastEnders is traditionally bigger than Emmerdale and so should be getting higher audiences.

That logic isn't watertight but there's something in it. There are definitely different benchmarks at least. There's a similar situation on Saturdays where these days Strictly (which is the Corrie) and X Factor (the EE) have different benchmarks...not that certain people on here acknowledge those either!

Personally I can't stand either Corrie or EastEnders and would be quite satisfied if both fell off the air tomorrow but even to me it seems pretty clear that EastEnders is in a better state than Corrie right now, although whether that should be translating into EastEnders pulling ahead is a difficult one to judge. I'd say probably not, so last night's figures do make better reading for EE than for Corrie. Much like how even if X Factor has a better season than Strictly this year I wouldn't expect it to pull ahead in the ratings. Also probably worth noting that in both situations it is the steady older skewing show in the lead, with the much younger skewing rival behind in total audiences (but arguably ahead in other ways).

Quote the post which claims this please. If anything, people are stating the opposite opinion. I think both ratings are poor but Corrie's quality matches the poor rating so I don't know what more can be said about Corrie.

This seems to be one of the most interesting channels out of that local TV, Programs include Crossroads:

http://www.bigcentre.tv/watch-live

Well the bus crash didn't keep the extra viewers so I'll give you that. But looking through the numbers after Hayley's death episode the ratings remained very healthy for around a month.

Also I see you completely ignored my point about Emmerdale in 2013 when it enjoyed a long run of good ratings and beating EE very frequently. If that's not momentum, I don't know what is. The point is, following this big Anniversary week where a peak of 12m tuned in for the reveal things seemed to have settled back much quicker than I was expecting.

Yes, I can really see people under 40 tuning in to Big Centre TV in their droves to watch Crossroads.

It's quite sad their two biggest shows seem to be Crossroads and Cuppa TV. Trashy unbelievably cheap TV.

Dont laugh at the thread but at the people who make the ridiculous claims !!

Well it sounds better than that London Live channel

Well I would say that if you are going back to 2013 then it proves that this happens only infrequently as all the soaps have had big storylines several times since then and non of them produced a sustained bounce.
As for EE ratings having settled back well I think we need to see next week before we can be definitive about that but its not as unexpected as some seem to think is my point.

Lol. Going back 18-months is hardly going back far. The point I made about Emmerdale's ratings then is totally valid and proves what I was saying.

EastEnders did well on Monday and Tuesday but Emmerdale dented their momentum on Thursday. There isn't usually a soap clash waiting in the wings to dent the ITV soaps whenever they're doing well. (Where another soap starts first and overlaps into their timeslot)

Yorkie is right, EE is now hitting 7 million regularly and wasn't before Christmas, so the show is holding its Christmas momentum at least. It also saw a boost after Lucy's death which lasted until BGT week in May, a good six weeks or so.

I think it's unfair to expect EE to maintain an absolute peak of 9-10m viewers when a lot of those viewers would've been tuning in for the live elements of the anniversary week. Corrie didn't see a sustained boost following the bus crash either.

I agree with that - although they have made up for it in the last couple of days.