True but that always happens with the Battle Rounds - we're used to it by now. Plus it bounced back from a series low last week.

Even at 500k it's still a - relatively - poor figure for Takeaway when comparing year-on-year.

Am sure others would be the same if the Voice fell.

I like A&D but anyone putting them in the same league as M&W is just wrong.
No offensive to your Dad.

It's hardly the end of the world and it's only one rating.


I really don't care. Whichever way it's just incredibly tiresome to read.

Totally agree with this. I'm fine with people criticising a programme but it's when it gets to the level of insulting the intelligence if it's viewers that a line has been crossed. One particular poster has a real issue with Gogglebox. It's a harmless TV show and people need to get over themselves.

Exactly. I can't stand The Only Way is Essex or Made in Chelsea but I would never EVER call people stupid because of what they watched.

At the end of the day it's only television. It's only ratings.

Guess not but this is the Ratings thread and year-on-year comparisons are valid. And Takeaway's year-on-year comparison does not make for good reading. ITV need to keep some shows at last year's/previous series level (and 2014 was a struggle as it was) instead of witnessing declines left, right and centre.

If we say tape-checked the decline was 500k and it continues thar decline then it'll be at Stars in Their Eyes level in... about eight years.

If 7.2 million is 'very' average then I give up then what does that make Takeaway's then? Its up yoy and up week on week, I don't think the BBC cpuld be asking any more from it this year really

I think you're over-analysing it. Last week The Voice was down 500k on last year, this week it's up 200k. Give it a few more weeks before a pattern emerges.

Less petty points scoring and more pretty overnight numbers please!

I don't quite see how a set of numbers can provoke so much controversy on here, but they seem to.

I have no allegiances to either channel (although I ike the Beeb to do well simply because it's always getting a bashing in the right wing press).

Very good for The Voice, considering the Blinds are over. Slightly underwhelming for A&D, but there's always a first ep curiosity bump, and I can't see it dropping any further during its run.

In your expert opinion, what sort of figure should it be getting ?

Both shows should probably be getting over 8m in the overnights to be classed as proper hits.

Possibly. Maybe I'm just slightly disappointed because it was such a good show last night I feel it deserved more. Will be interesting to see if word-of-mouth boosts episode three considering it went down well on here. The first fifteen-twenty minutes will clash with the football rather than the news so that could be an interesting battle.

The Voice was doing that until last week to be fair.

That's probably a generational thing (in a lot of cases, not all) though isn't it? My dad has made me watched some M and W christmas specials and I don't find them in the least bit funny, it's all dated rubbish for me, whereas I find Ant and Dec hilarious. Of course, there will be some people that find that opinion absurd, but it's just the way things go, it's the same with music.

Yeah of course, I wasnt really being serious. I cant watch their shows now either but they were funny at the time.
I don't particularly find SNT funny as have seen it all before but I can understand a younger audience liking it.

That's exactly what I did, watched Takeaway then switched to the BBC and watched the end of The Voice whilst waiting for Casualty.

Obviously a great figure for The Voice. Pretty disappointing for SNT. Looking forward to hopefully seeing how they rated against each other between 7:15-8:20.

Last year, the breakdown for the equivalent night for The Voice was:

19:00 - The Voice UK: 6.95m (30.4%)
* 19:00 to 20:20 - 6.44m (27.9%)
* 20:20 to 21:10 - 7.78m (34.5%)
* peak: 8.18m (35.9%)

Last night's breakdown would've been fairly similar, but with it all up 0.2m or so. That episode of The Voice last year didn't have a Rugby-inflated BBC One inheritence though as there were no Six Nations fixtures that weekend. So I think that would've played some part in why it rated 0.2m higher than that episode (as well as the fact it started slightly later last night).

Last year, episodes 2 and 3 of The Voice averaged 7.6m and 7.9m respectively, neither of those episodes aired after 6 Nations rugby or rugby-inflated lead-in (i.e. a BBC News following the rugby). The following 2 episodes averaged 8.5m and 8.4m, both of which aired on nights when there was rugby in the tea-time slot.

This year, the same kind of thing happened when the rugby came into the schedules. On 14th February when there was a 5pm rugby game, The Voice got a series high of 8.7m. That was up almost half a million from an average of 8.3m for the preceding episodes which didn't have any rugby airing on the same day. The Voice tends to rate about 5% higher on nights when there is early evening rugby/sport compared to nights when there isn't, due to the overflow of those sporting viewers into BBC1's peak-time viewing.

So that will have explained partly why TVUK was up vs. the same night last year and also up slightly from last week (which I predicted would happen). The 55-minute free-run against Take Me Out will have also contributed to it being 0.45m up from last Saturday. I wouldn't be surprised if TVUK's head-to-head average against SNT last night was about the same as last week's 6.75m or even perhaps slightly down. But with the 50-mins against TMO most likely averaging in the mid 7s, that will have brought the average up to 7.2m.

Next week with TVUK following on from an FA Cup match, I don't imagine it'll lose any steam. If anything, due to it directly following the FA Cup next Saturday (rather than BBC News) and it starting even later (meaning more time away from SNT), it might grow another 0.2m or so.

Sorry but I would have to stand by the excuses line or is it just a coincidence that many of the same posters who were praising A&D yesterday are now saying but its not tapechecked, they havnt stripped out the adds etc etc because it has not got as big a rating as they expected?

Also funny that when I make similar valid points about other programs like the EE discussion yesterday I get told "EE fans making excuses again" - so you see it goes both ways.

As for my narrative I thought I explained it in my first post and its not anti ITV or A&D but just that TVUK got a lot of bad press on here last night (and the tedious/boring posts did appear) while A&D got a lot of praise but the actual ratings did not reflect last nights discussion at all. I will also repeat I watch neither of these shows and could not care less if both were cancelled.

It looks like Ant n Dec are gonna struggle this series - the show has negative momentum, maybe under 6 million next week- it has FA Cup & The Voice to contend with. They aren't exactly funny, so I would expect viewers to drift off. That is not to say The Voice is incredible - but this season viewers seems a lot more loyal.

Isn't it obvious that the show to record is SNT. Why watch a show with adverts live? I don't know anyone who watches ITV drama live.

What did Foyles War get on ITV3? I'd think this is a good alternative for older generation.

Some people here take ratings very seriously.....!!

I don't like the name calling here or the my channel is better than yours attitude. I like BBC & ITV shows (never like Ant n Dec though)

I am relieved The Voice didn't collapse - I predicted around 6m for both shows - so had the former happened, there would have been a lot more Voice bashing here...........

Well I think the same with regard to watching a show with adverts but clearly lots of people do.

I think BBC One has more viewer loyalty in general at the moment and, let's be honest, they've earned it. The Saturday evening schedules have supported The Voice and vice versa. Saturday Night Takeaway has little before it and quite a demo specific show after it in comparison. Not that I'm using that as am excuse. Admittedly BBC One tends to be strong in the winter and take a slight dip in the spring; it'll be interesting to see what they have lined up post Call the Midwife/The Voice. Does anyone know?