Amazed that there was so much hype here for last night's SNT as I found it dull. I prefer Ant vs. Dec when the challenge is physical. I get that the show is a self-promotion tool for ITV but hardly anyone watches BSLS so to base a whole segment around it seems bizarre. While parts were funny it smacked of a cost-cutting feature. SNT is well produced but the format, based on Noel's House Party, is showing its age.

That hypnotism show held up better than I thought it would but I wouldn't describe a -4m rating as good. The minute ITV start accepting sub 4m figures as the norm is the minute they might as well shut up shop. The show is still rubbish and obviously a con.


If millions were enjoying Corrie on ITV Player ITV would be shouting about it. They aren't. ITV Player is vastly inferior to iPlayer and I'll bet the hits reflect this.

Takeaway isn't bad, it's just a bit tired. It was brought back as other Ant & Dec replacement vehicles like Pokerface and Push The Button didn't work.

Takeaway is a solid rater but has dipped a bit each year since its second revival two years ago.

Have the broadcasters finally got their way with David Cameron? The first Leaders' Interviews airs on Thursday 26th but how will it rate? Could the Coalition drama draw in the public for Channel 4? Will the Mafia provide Trevor McDonald with some exposure on ITV? And will the channel regret the 8pm showing of Coronation Street? Marvel's Agents of SHIELD and Persons of Interest return, alongside Inside No 9 but will they pull in the punters? Are misbehaving OAPs more popular than police officers who are above... or beneath... the law plus who is the Mastermind of 2015?

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You obviously didn't mention Red or Black, their most infamous flop. SNT still does well and only runs for seven weeks of the year, so it won't reach burnout in the way shows like TXF will.
ITV's main problem to me is overkill with successful formats and keeping shows well past their sell by date. I'm sure the way The Chase is being hammered now will turn people off and the whole of daytime needs to be revamped.

Red Or Black is a programme I tried to block from my memory.

The Chase takes a break unlike Pointless and both are still flourishing. How long will that last? Who knows?

Why does everyone say this about The Chase, yet Pointless is on the same, if not more than The Chase?

The problem with SNT is the reliance of the same things, same cheap guests and cheap End Of The Show Show segments - I'm sick of seeing A&D singing.

I mean, come on the best they can do is Stephen Mulhern, when in previous years they've had great under covers such as American Idol.

Plus, they peaked in the first return series, they basically excelled themselves for that series, to leave nothing to improve on, that they seemingly can't.

That is the truth. It has dipped since the first series of its return. Watching Noel's House Party, they would get people from The Bill or Emmerdale on regularly to do running guest spots. Until ITV banned their stars from going on it. Takeaway has a lot of ITV faces and the same faces. Mulhern...AGAIN!

People can come on here and say "Takeaway is great! Great Takeaway! Twitter loves Takeaway!" as much as they want. It doesn't change the fact that has dipped from the highs of its big return.

I said last Monday that I looked at ITV's Sunday figures (consistently 3m across the evening) and thought "that's not too bad" - which says it all really.

Think ITV will be happy with that now that they own it.

Going back 20 years, ITV was invincible on Sundays. They had an excellent crop of dramas like London's Burning and Band of Gold and shows like Surprise, Surprise still had a big following. Now it seems to be B list entertainment.

Yes. The irony is ITV can't lose with The Voice now. They might lose to it but they own it so technically they don't lose.

The wonderful world of television!

Well everybody doesn't say that, just Glenn, every few days, even when nobody is talking about The Chase he has to give it a dig.

The whole thread is a contradiction anyway, one minute an old format is a creaking tired old show that is boring, the next another one is a long awaited old favourite.

One minute they should axe something and bring back suchandsuch, the next minute they are slammed for not having any new ideas and having to bring back suchandsuch.

Saturday Night Takeaway is apparently tired, even though it's only on 7 weeks a year, yet The Voice which is a minor twist on a show which in one form or another has been on air constantly for about 15 years is fresh and exciting!


Well yes, but so what. It's almost worth never getting a massive rating because then every other figure looks poor in comparison.

But it sent Twitter crazy...and so on...and so on....and so on. Shows can get tired even after two years, look at Glee.

Do you get paid well doing Ant & Dec's PR?

He isn't though. We all get the point: Takeaway's ratings are lower than they were a couple of years ago. No need to make the same point again and again and again. Shows decline, it happens. ITV obviously won't be thrilled but it's still doing well. This discussion is just going round in circles with nothing new being added.

In a bid to change the topic, thoughs on how Poldark will hold up tonight? It's done very well so far although both weeks it has had a very big lead-in (although admittedly it and The Voice probably wasn't the most compatible pairing) whereas tonight it's regular Antiques Roadshow. I still think Poldark will be above 6m though as it looks like a hit. Maybe a slight dip from last week to 6.2-6.3m?

Have a feeling there will be a lot of cut footage there (they won't be able to stop giggling).

'Dull'?

We learnt Dec plays with Ant's sausage! How is that dull?

Making the same point over and over again? I quite agree. And the impartiality shines through.

Andy23 is hardly the only person on this thread to repeat points though. I'm sure I do. I certainly notice many others doing so.

Blew up on Twitter and everything! Yes. Anyway.

Everybody repeats points. So if people say I repeat myself I will point out others do as well.

We're all just very repetitive. Mind you, there haven't been many massive changes in the TV landscape for a while to give us something new to talk about; that's probably why we go round in circles.

I do it. We all do it. It's just that today that point has been made no end of times, by both you and others and I think everyone gets it now. You won't win with Andy, much like you won't win when making an unfavourable point about a BBC show to certain posters (although I do think Andy makes some good points, as does pretty much everyone here regardless of their biases). It's like trying to push water up a hill though. You're better off leaving it and moving on.

Just for the sake of settling up, this series of Takeaway is averaging 6.1m. Last year it averaged 6.6m and 2 years ago it averaged 7.2m (although it only faced The Voice for 2 episodes that year).

And The Voice hasn't rated as highly as series 1 and this series has been higher than last year so far. I've said that a lot too.

I think we all knew that anyway.

Do we think the Voice will finally creep above X Factor and into third in the talent show rankings this year?