Finally he's been getting away with it for to long.

I dont know about the awards though. CS and EE have won best soap when they were not deserved and it could easily happen again.

I suppose Count Arthur was stable but it's still a disappointing number. The flying lesson scene last night was hilarious. It so deserves a wider audience and it's a shame it's at 10.35pm. Would love to see how it performed on a winter Saturday teatime in say the slot Now You See It currently has

Cynically CS always do a big stunt just before the NTA. The past 18 months have been absolutely dire and IMHO they don't deserve a single award.

I wouldn't really call them big episodes ratings-wise, there's nothing there to draw in the casual audience. I'm sure they're going to very good episodes, the four-hander on Tuesday especially, but calling them "big episodes" is just asking for trouble on this thread.

It's interesting that the big two soaps are going for two very different types of drama next week, EastEnders with its stripped back character-driven drama and Corrie with its action-driven minibus stunt. The latter is usually favoured when it comes to ratings, and publicly voted awards for that matter, so I can see Corrie doing very well next week while EastEnders struggles a bit.

Significant plot points but not big episodes like a bus crash. Also they haven't been promoted as big.

It doesnt stop any other soap doing stunts during nta's. I dont think corrie has been that bad tbh. Aye its had some crappy episodes but so does every soap.

Indeed the Sun is calling it Boredchurch this morning they have obviously been reading this thread again heh.

guestofseth answered this for me in relation to last Tuesday's share. Last night's 36.4% surpasses that, so it now is the highest share since Lucy's funeral last May (36.6%).

The 100 got 648k and supernatural 253k. They both halved the audience in one week wtf going on there.

Was that in a TV review?

The Sun (expletive deleted) - it almost makes me want to defend BC.

She is about to have twins so I doubt she cares too much heh.

That's good because its also on tonight and tomorrow.

They're off the pace - Robbie told the world that a year ago!

Great to see EastEnders and Emmerdale increasing on Monday and both up slightly yoy. Better shares than recently too.

Thanks Lewie and Bushmills for the figures.

According to Blackburn, Corrie was averaging 8.5m and a 37% share in 2014. (way ahead of its nearest rivals he adds)

It hasn't crossed 8m in the overnights since 17th November and only has 1 NTA nom, not to mention the loss of 1m viewers in 2014.

The worst is yet to come judging by the stories he teased.

No its in the TV Biz section, they say Broadchurch pulled in its lowest ever ratings on Monday after losing more than a million viewers, they say only 6.4m watched its second episode with figures droping as low as 2.3 million, then they mention the usual Twitter morons saying how rubbish and boring the show is now.

Don't know where they got that 2.3m figure from.

Vanessa didn't replace Kilroy, because Kilroy was somewhat amazingly there until 2004 before he had to, cough, go away. The omnipresence of Kilroy on BBC daytime was amazing, no matter how many revamps there were of BBC daytime it stayed there, eventually lasting over seventeen years. Even though it seemed like a sitting duck in the schedules and when it finished the ratings for the 9am hour on BBC1 shot up.

Wogan gets the chornology confused in his book because Wogan's Island was a few years before Wogan's Web, when David Liddiment was indeed at the BBC, not as Controller of BBC1 but as Head of Entertainment. He was there around the same time as Nick Elliott was Head of Drama, both of whom had been headhunted by the Beeb from ITV to create some more populist programming, but neither really enjoyed it at the Beeb and both returned to ITV within a year or so.


The woman who presented Escape to the Country? Don't remember that one on the front page of the tabloids. Getting a bit fed up of the idea any presenter doing anything for more than one channel is them being "poached". Julia Bradbury is a freelance presenter who left Countryfile, not the BBC, as the reports at the time make abundantly clear - http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ountryfile-itv

It even says in the piece that she had already done Take On The Twisters for ITV while on Countryfile and would possibly do other shows on the Beeb. She is not on a golden handcuffs deal with ITV, she is a freelance presenter who works for anyone. If anyone can find anything to contradict that, I would absolutely love to see it.

Presenters presenting on more than one channel has happened since ITV began in the fifties. In the seventies Brucie did regular specials for ITV while also doing the Generation Game on the Beeb. More recently Charlie Brooker did Ten O'Clock Live and Black Mirror on C4 while still doing all his BBC shows. It's easier than ever for presenters to work across the various channels, nobody cares and because of independent productions they can work with all the same people regardless of the channel.

Mel and Sue is a Princess production, as was Light Lunch, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Mel and Sue or Princess came up with the idea of bringing back a Mel and Sue chat show and approached the various broadcasters, and it was ITV who decided they wanted to do it. It doesn't interfere with any of their BBC work which clearly they're still doing. Yeah, they're a bit of a hotter property now than they were before Bake-Off so ITV were a bit more interested but to suggest they were poached is rubbish.


Yes, she did. ITV must have "poached" Richard Hammond as well, I suppose, as you can see by the fact he's not on Top Gear anymo... oh, hang on.

The Five O'Clock Show was an attempt to fill the other six months of the year when ITV had Paul O'Grady. I know they originally approached Chris Evans to do that but he turned it down. It wasn't much of a hit, no, because it wasn't much of a format.


It is impressive to see it pretty much level week on week because generally with sitcoms the only way is down. Certainly on BBC2 it was getting less than half that at some point. I assume the idea is to hope everyone forgets it was on BBC2 and watch it catch on via word of mouth as they did with Mrs Brown. The fact it's hung on to much of its audience is a good sign, and it does seem to have been a stronger series so far. So give it time. Presumably these days the Beeb are so scared of sitcoms getting roundly slagged off the second they appear they want to give them all the softest of soft launches.

Defensive much?

Steve Williams - you don't seem to understand of what is said here. There's a history of BBC presenters going to ITV to present something, then either never seen again, or the programme they do ends up bombing.

thats all I'm saying, get of your high horse mate.

Bruce Forsyth has criss-crossed between ITV and the BBC for most of his career although did provide ITV with one of its biggest disasters in Bruce Forsyth's Big Night but LWT were happy to continue employing him.

Tony Hancock ditched his writers and went to ATV,eventually committing suicide in Australia.

Benny Hill crossed successfully from the BBC to ITV.

Sadly Morecambe and Wise were not a great success story at Thames although Eric was ill by then and they were deprived of their writer Eddie Braben and producer John Ammonds who at first elected to stay at the BBC.

2.52m for CBB then. Hoped it would be higher but still great!

Its The Sun - they probably made it up !!!

Always!

So in denial huh. The papers never report these ratings crisis' for Corrie like they do all the time for EE so yes Stuart for them to finally do that, something has happened, ratings have dropped etc.