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The Ratings Thread (Part 63)
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Neil_N
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“This is a great feature on finding Saturday night hits. This comment from Duncan Gray is spot on. Trying to retain and manage declining share instead of trying to grow it is a general problem in TV.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...voice-x-factor”

This somes it all up, do things on the cheap. We know the money is there, but no-one wants to spend it. Why not cut back on these talent shows and salaries? Regular people have had to take pay cuts.
yorkie100
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Barkers_Nipple:
“Got to agree that Broadchurch has lost all of it's original appeal - the characters have become dull, there's no mystery about anything, they're starting to scrape the barrel over an alleged affair and the other storyline is going nowhere. ITV botch job again!”

To be fair its the writer who is letting them down. There is a story to tell and if they had done the courtrom scenes properly and concentrated on the characters we know and how they react to the trial, how they give evidence etc it could have worked. But we are now concentrating on characters we dont even know and their backstory and they are uninteresting IMO.
cylon6
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“So, BBC1's decision to air SW against BC has paid off! Whoever would have thought that?”

Broadchurch was also following a highly rated episode of Coronation Street. That makes the Silent Witness rating even more impressive. I really thought Broadchurch would have been ahead in these clashes.
Digital Sid
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Barkers_Nipple:
“Got to agree that Broadchurch has lost all of it's original appeal - the characters have become dull, there's no mystery about anything, they're starting to scrape the barrel over an alleged affair and the other storyline is going nowhere. ITV botch job again!”

I haven't seen any of this series yet, is it worth bothering?
jlp95bwfc
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by big dan:
“Good ratings for Corrie. Not sure if they're well deserved as not caught the eps. Mind you don't know if I can even bring myself to kick back and watch them for what they are knowing one of she show's most beloved, iconic actresses is no longer with us ”

I watched them last night on ITV Player. I wasn't particularly in the mood after last night's news but I have to say that they were superb. The second episode in particular was probably the best I've seen in the last year from Corrie. Great drama and tension and the sub-plot of Steve's depression amongst the carnage was brilliantly done.
AnthonyC
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Score:
“I think most people. SW is probably their strongest weeknight drama series (maybe except Death in Paradise but that show probably has less crossover with BC as it nas a very different tone) and is also a very similar show to BC. It makes sense from their perspective.”

I honestly thought then (and still do) that airing SW was just a spoiler tactic but evenso that BC would still clearly run away in a head-to-head given it was critically acclaimed, had huge ratings and that it's been 2 years since the last series. I'm genuinely surprised that almost half-way into it's run it's losing in the overnights.

I may have missed it but how did last Monday's airing of SW vs BC compare in the consolidated figures? I guess we get those figures today?
Dancc
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by AnthonyC:
“I honestly thought then (and still now) it was a spolier tactic but that BC would still run away in a head-to-head given it was critically acclaimed, had huge ratings and that it's been 2 years since the last series. I'm genuinely surprised that almost half-way into it's run it's losing in the overnights.

I may have missed it but how did last Monday's airing of SW vs BC compare in the consolidated figures? I guess we get those figures today?”

We should get those around lunchtime.
cylon6
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“This somes it all up, do things on the cheap. We know the money is there, but no-one wants to spend it. Why not cut back on these talent shows and salaries? Regular people have had to take pay cuts.”

And managing declining share instead of growing it is why TV is in a mess sometimes. How long were they thinking 4m on Wednesday at 8pm was decent until Bake Off came along and massively increased ratings for that slot?
AnthonyC
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“We should get those around lunchtime.”

Thanks Dancc. Will be interesting to see those!
Salv*
20-01-2015
CBB still strong despite its fall against Silent Witness and Broadchurch, and 230,000 up on the Monday before.

That's a great rating for Silent Witness and it was a great victory for them! It paid off! Broadchurch did fall but still logged in a good rating!
Dancc
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by AnthonyC:
“Thanks Dancc. Will be interesting to see those!”

An increasingly important part of the puzzle, there could be some mighty timeshifts to be added on.

Still, hard to see how either the BBC or ITV will be that thrilled with how either show is doing in the overnights now. Silent Witness would be over 7m away from BC, whilst the latter is harder to assess given we don't know how many have tuned out because of the change of direction.
Dancc
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“CBB still strong despite its fall against Silent Witness and Broadchurch, and 230,000 up on the Monday before.”

As others have mentioned, it was the least eventful episode of the series.

If even the quietest episode can do 2.6 against the biggest competition of the week, there's no reason to think CBB's strong form can't continue.
jake lyle
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“. Silent Witness would be over 7m away from BC,.”

Would it? It didn't get that for it's first episode which aired on a Tuesday. It got 6.5m iirc.
cylon6
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The Broadchurch figure looks worse when you see Corrie increased by a million on last Monday. Hopefully it doesn't drop much more from here, ITV doesn't need any more problems right now.

Samuel would have been proud of the BBC's handling of Silent Witness, and that's not a compliment.”

Also remember that Broadchurch was ahead of Silent Witness in the overnights last week.

Last Monday:
Broadchurch - 6.13m
Silent Witness - 5.49m
jake lyle
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Your right wizzy. To suggest that most people thought SW was going to do very well against BC is a complete revision of history.”

Exactly.
cylon6
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I haven't seen any of this series yet, is it worth bothering?”

Still enjoyable but logic has taken a bit of a holiday.
Tourista
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by AnthonyC:
“I honestly thought then (and still do) that airing SW was just a spoiler tactic but evenso that BC would still clearly run away in a head-to-head given it was critically acclaimed, had huge ratings and that it's been 2 years since the last series. I'm genuinely surprised that almost half-way into it's run it's losing in the overnights.”

Personally think that these points worked against BC, rather than in its favour. There was too much of a gap from the first series, and many watchers may be like me and wonder who all these people are. Also like me, many may think that the setting of the story is just weak, and it shouldn't have linked the two stories.

Who knows, it still will consolidate strongly and may pick up ratings wise.
Zac Quinn
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I haven't seen any of this series yet, is it worth bothering?”

Always worth watching TV for yourself to form your own opinions about it rather than just following someone else's

Terrific stuff for Corrie, not so far behind the 'right to die' episode which was 132x more hyped.
Dancc
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Would it? It didn't get that for it's first episode which aired on a Tuesday. It got 6.5m iirc.”

I can't prove it, but seems likely based on all available evidence.

It saddens me that the BBC probably cares more these days that it beat Broadchurch than maximising the Silent Witness audience. And yes I know it might recover with timeshift but that's hardly the point.
cylon6
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Although the general consensus on here when it was confirmed it would be clashing with BC was that the BBC obviously wanted to "burn it off". There were suggestions that Traffic Cops should be shown as anything aired against BC would be thrashed!”

I think people thought The Musketeers on a Friday was a burn off, well Jake Lyle did and I think he was right. Most thought Silent Witness v Broadchurch was a clash that would dent both but BC would win in overnights.

That theory has been blown out of the water!
Score
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“An increasingly important part of the puzzle, there could be some mighty timeshifts to be added on.

Still, hard to see how either the BBC or ITV will be that thrilled with how either show is doing in the overnights now. Silent Witness would be over 7m away from BC, whilst the latter is harder to assess given we don't know how many have tuned out because of the change of direction.”

Agreed. I think timeshifts could be pretty substantial. For other dramas those overnights would be very good, even if they weren't head to head. Problem is that both shows (especially BC) are considered big, hence the overnights look a little underwhelming (especially for BC). I think BC would probably have done 6.5-7m last night without SW in the way. The change of direction has probably put some viewers off (as you'd expect) but it's still pretty strong (I can't think of any other weekday drama that would do 5.7m against SW).

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Would it? It didn't get that for it's first episode which aired on a Tuesday. It got 6.5m iirc.”

It got 6.7m. And Mondays generally rate higher than Tuesdays. I don't think 7m is too much of a stretch of the imagination.
david_leeward
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“Of course the stunt was going to Make Big ratings it was avertised every half an hour. I personally found the episodes something to be desired.”

Corrie was exellent! Alot of people enjoyed over on forum too. Dont you always bang on about eastenders? No wonder you didnt enjoy it
Bushmills
20-01-2015
Bad start for Mel & Sue's second week: 770,000.
marke09
20-01-2015
From the Mail on SUnday - 10 reasons why Broadchurch has lost the plot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ly-flawed.html
lewiep93
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Bad start for Mel & Sue's second week: 770,000.”

Do you have anymore daytime ratings? Thanks.
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