I was watching BBC Breakfast this morning and at around 7.30 they had a 10 minute discussion about, you guessed it, Britain's Got Talent. So even the BBC News is now covering it!
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Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I was watching BBC Breakfast this morning and at around 7.30 they had a 10 minute discussion about, you guessed it, Britain's Got Talent. So even the BBC News is now covering it!”
“I was watching BBC Breakfast this morning and at around 7.30 they had a 10 minute discussion about, you guessed it, Britain's Got Talent. So even the BBC News is now covering it!”
Must be big if BBC Fluffy Sofa News are covering it.
I have to jump to Robbie's defence here. I don't know why he gets such a hard time for being bitter. This thread is incredibly pro-ITV anyway so I don't know why the ITV fans need to constantly be on the defence. Especially to some of the more silly attacks.
And you get them on both sides of the coin, http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=5742
Can't be nothing to do with the great effort the BBC goes to to put on good shows over the festive period then.
If anything because of how pro-ITV the thread is the BBC is attacked more and over the slightest thing. In fact I am yet to read anything remotely pro-BBC in this thread apart from the stuff Robbie posts.
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Just to expand a little on the link above before anyone tries to say it's true...
Sorry but to say people won't be paying attention to the BBC on xmas day and just watch it by default is simply ridiculous. Especially given the clear effort they go to with some of their xmas shows. It's nothing more than a sly dig. The sort of thing Robbie is criticized for. Their schedule is usually jam packed right from the afternoon. And I'm not sure of the exact stats but I'm sure I've read on here that last year there wasn't even that many extra people watching TV on xmas day to a normal night.
And Robbie has actually criticized the BBC before. I have yet to see some of the pro-ITV posters in this thread being humble enough to point out when they've got it wrong. Robbie is one of the more neutral posters on the thread in fact given how one track most are.
And you get them on both sides of the coin, http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=5742
Can't be nothing to do with the great effort the BBC goes to to put on good shows over the festive period then.
If anything because of how pro-ITV the thread is the BBC is attacked more and over the slightest thing. In fact I am yet to read anything remotely pro-BBC in this thread apart from the stuff Robbie posts.
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Just to expand a little on the link above before anyone tries to say it's true...
Sorry but to say people won't be paying attention to the BBC on xmas day and just watch it by default is simply ridiculous. Especially given the clear effort they go to with some of their xmas shows. It's nothing more than a sly dig. The sort of thing Robbie is criticized for. Their schedule is usually jam packed right from the afternoon. And I'm not sure of the exact stats but I'm sure I've read on here that last year there wasn't even that many extra people watching TV on xmas day to a normal night.
And Robbie has actually criticized the BBC before. I have yet to see some of the pro-ITV posters in this thread being humble enough to point out when they've got it wrong. Robbie is one of the more neutral posters on the thread in fact given how one track most are.
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“Robbie is one of the more neutral posters on the thread in fact given how one track most are.”
“Robbie is one of the more neutral posters on the thread in fact given how one track most are.”
Well I suppose thats one point of view. It just reads like you are Robbie's mother unfortunately..............
Well George you are one of the examples of a one track poster. I have never seen you post anything negative about ITV ever and I've even seen you try to make excuses for some of their more dubious programming.
So they're having a good week this week. Well done it's fantastic. But too much gloating isn't a good trait as the pro-BBC posters well the one who posts here Robbie will have their turn over christmas..oh no I forgot people don't pay attention to BBC1 anyway on xmas day.
And you know next week ITV will drop like a brick so if you're prepared to gloat this much now I hope we're going to see some perspective next week.
At least the BBC manages to hang onto its high ratings for more than a single week over xmas sometimes it can stretch to 3 if you count it from the SCD final. Are people still not paying attention there or is it just on xmas day they don't bother???
The sparring between you George and Robbie is good actually but some other people are just annoying and blatantly showing bias.
So they're having a good week this week. Well done it's fantastic. But too much gloating isn't a good trait as the pro-BBC posters well the one who posts here Robbie will have their turn over christmas..oh no I forgot people don't pay attention to BBC1 anyway on xmas day.
And you know next week ITV will drop like a brick so if you're prepared to gloat this much now I hope we're going to see some perspective next week.
At least the BBC manages to hang onto its high ratings for more than a single week over xmas sometimes it can stretch to 3 if you count it from the SCD final. Are people still not paying attention there or is it just on xmas day they don't bother???
The sparring between you George and Robbie is good actually but some other people are just annoying and blatantly showing bias.
People are more than welcome to share thier views on being Pro-ITV or Pro-BBC, aren't they??? But you are being hypocritical in saying how people shouldn't be pro either, by Bring Pro-BBC???
I think nearly everyone on this thread takes things with a pinch of salt, and understand the relationship between posters; of cause some of the things are said over the top, but it just adds to the fun of the thread.
So if you don't want to see posters being biased, STOP BEING BIASED!
(Just to say, i really can't see the point in loving a channel, surely you should watch for the show, not the channel?)
I think nearly everyone on this thread takes things with a pinch of salt, and understand the relationship between posters; of cause some of the things are said over the top, but it just adds to the fun of the thread.
So if you don't want to see posters being biased, STOP BEING BIASED!
(Just to say, i really can't see the point in loving a channel, surely you should watch for the show, not the channel?)
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“This thread is incredibly pro-ITV anyway so I don't know why the ITV fans need to constantly be on the defence.”
“This thread is incredibly pro-ITV anyway so I don't know why the ITV fans need to constantly be on the defence.”
No it's not.
Yes it is.
The only time the BBC gets discussed at any sort of great length in here is at christmas time.
The rest of the year all a certain few are concerned about is how ITV is doing and then making excuses when it's done badly. (OK most of the time then)
I wouldn't say I was biased and I wouldn't say my post was pro-BBC either. I'd like to see a mix on the thread. It makes for an incredibly tedious thread to have it so one-sided as it currently stands.
The only time the BBC gets discussed at any sort of great length in here is at christmas time.
The rest of the year all a certain few are concerned about is how ITV is doing and then making excuses when it's done badly. (OK most of the time then)
I wouldn't say I was biased and I wouldn't say my post was pro-BBC either. I'd like to see a mix on the thread. It makes for an incredibly tedious thread to have it so one-sided as it currently stands.
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“Well George you are one of the examples of a one track poster. I have never seen you post anything negative about ITV ever and I've even seen you try to make excuses for some of their more dubious programming.
So they're having a good week this week. Well done it's fantastic. But too much gloating isn't a good trait as the pro-BBC posters well the one who posts here Robbie will have their turn over christmas..oh no I forgot people don't pay attention to BBC1 anyway on xmas day.
And you know next week ITV will drop like a brick so if you're prepared to gloat this much now I hope we're going to see some perspective next week.
At least the BBC manages to hang onto its high ratings for more than a single week over xmas sometimes it can stretch to 3 if you count it from the SCD final. Are people still not paying attention there or is it just on xmas day they don't bother???
The sparring between you George and Robbie is good actually but some other people are just annoying and blatantly showing bias.”
“Well George you are one of the examples of a one track poster. I have never seen you post anything negative about ITV ever and I've even seen you try to make excuses for some of their more dubious programming.
So they're having a good week this week. Well done it's fantastic. But too much gloating isn't a good trait as the pro-BBC posters well the one who posts here Robbie will have their turn over christmas..oh no I forgot people don't pay attention to BBC1 anyway on xmas day.
And you know next week ITV will drop like a brick so if you're prepared to gloat this much now I hope we're going to see some perspective next week.
At least the BBC manages to hang onto its high ratings for more than a single week over xmas sometimes it can stretch to 3 if you count it from the SCD final. Are people still not paying attention there or is it just on xmas day they don't bother???
The sparring between you George and Robbie is good actually but some other people are just annoying and blatantly showing bias.”
Yeah, like you. You're showing bias.
The BBC have plenty of faults, not last year, but this year. Last year, it's been the closest to perfection in light of their scheduling.
This year, Jay Hunt has made BBC1 primetime the home of daytime, with shoddy factual series like '10 Things You Didn't Know', and extending The One Show to an hour, and commissioning Waterloo Road for a 1,000,000,000,000 part run. How many more times will we see endless repeats of Traffic Cops and New Tricks to save money? And what about their system of disguising repeats as new episodes!
On the other hand, ITV have been pretty poor too, especially in the factual department, with endless shite on Tuesday and Thursday's. At least they're moving in the right direction though, with Monday Night Thrillers, some quality factual journey's [Martin Clunes, Billy Connolly, and there are much more to come].
There seems to be some structure with ITV, an out with the old, in with the new system. Although I disagree with Heartbeat and The Royal being axed, as they still make perfect Sunday night television [see the Stephen Fry interview, he agrees with me about Sunday night TV], I am happy ITV have relieved the 8pm slots of The Bill.
It shows a little more imagination, and in 2010, ITV will be structurally sound, with all of their midweek football on one night, Wednesday, which is also their night for Award Ceremonies. That should take up over half the year, and ITV could just air Frost repeats for two hours, which would be poignant as it would have ended in 2009.
Also, it means ITV can make solid & clear plans on Tuesday nights without any Champions League coverage. Thursday nights will also need a clean break, as well as Friday night's at 9pm, where I can see repeats of Cold Feet airing over the Summer.
I'm all up for repeats occasionally, but lazy repeats are annoying. Taggart on ITV1 for example. That's ridiculous, and I don't know what silly and pedantic game ITV are playing with STV.
And as for BBC1, sorry, but it's true, they started the year slowly with no imagination, and it's kept going like that. No real big hitting programmes at all to speak of!
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“Yes it is.”
“Yes it is.”
I don't really think this thread is that pro-ITV. You've got 2 really partisan posters on here supporting ITV and BBC, but that's it really. From my experience, everyone else is fairly neutral.
The reason why ITV gets a lot of talk on here is because it's in a pretty erratic state at the moment. So naturally people are going to talk more about it, than the ever stable BBC.
I think the BBC's in good shape in general, so don't feel the need to chat about it that much. On the other hand, ITV's all over the place so I'm more inclined to offer my views about it.
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“Yes it is.
The only time the BBC gets discussed at any sort of great length in here is at christmas time.
The rest of the year all a certain few are concerned about is how ITV is doing and then making excuses when it's done badly. (OK most of the time then)
I wouldn't say I was biased and I wouldn't say my post was pro-BBC either. I'd like to see a mix on the thread. It makes for an incredibly tedious thread to have it so one-sided as it currently stands.”
“Yes it is.
The only time the BBC gets discussed at any sort of great length in here is at christmas time.
The rest of the year all a certain few are concerned about is how ITV is doing and then making excuses when it's done badly. (OK most of the time then)
I wouldn't say I was biased and I wouldn't say my post was pro-BBC either. I'd like to see a mix on the thread. It makes for an incredibly tedious thread to have it so one-sided as it currently stands.”
I would say that your post is probably one of the most biased posts i've read on this thread. Of cause ITV is going to have the majority of talk this week, it would be the same of BBC had a week of the highest ratings of the year.
If ITV does get talked about more as its ratings seem to be on either end of the scale, it seems interesting either way as it either fails miserably or is a major success. I think even Robbie and George would agree that no ratings get swept under the carpet, and it doesnt matter what channel it's on.
Thing is I'm now being accused of being biased and pro-BBC for wondering why almost every single post I've read on here over the past week has been pro-ITV and why the BBC is hardly ever discussed. That's not even the case at all. I'll go wherever the programmes I want to watch are whether that be ITV1, BBC1, Channel 4, Five or wherever else.
I wouldn't say ITV has set the world alight this year either PJMillar apart from BGT which is doing predictably well (anyone know why they don't run it as long as the X Factor?, goodness knows ITV could do with it running longer over the summer)
I apologize if I have jumped in too quickly and I didn't want to stir up sh*t on the thread.
Changing the subject slightly, how do people think BB is going to perform this year? Maybe they should set it in a jungle if they want to save it.
I wouldn't say ITV has set the world alight this year either PJMillar apart from BGT which is doing predictably well (anyone know why they don't run it as long as the X Factor?, goodness knows ITV could do with it running longer over the summer)
I apologize if I have jumped in too quickly and I didn't want to stir up sh*t on the thread.
Changing the subject slightly, how do people think BB is going to perform this year? Maybe they should set it in a jungle if they want to save it.
I wouldn't say the thread is pro-ITV. It's pro-talking about ITV but not always positively
When there is a lull in ratings news the thread usually (tiresomely in my opinion) defaults to 'ITV is a bit rubbish, lets redesign the schedule 25 times'
When there is a lull in ratings news the thread usually (tiresomely in my opinion) defaults to 'ITV is a bit rubbish, lets redesign the schedule 25 times'
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wouldn't say the thread is pro-ITV. It's pro-talking about ITV but not always positively
When there is a lull in ratings news the thread usually (tiresomely in my opinion) defaults to 'ITV is a bit rubbish, lets redesign the schedule 25 times'”
“I wouldn't say the thread is pro-ITV. It's pro-talking about ITV but not always positively
When there is a lull in ratings news the thread usually (tiresomely in my opinion) defaults to 'ITV is a bit rubbish, lets redesign the schedule 25 times'”
That's what I mean about the thread rather than it being full of ITV is so good posts which it isn't. It's more the sheer volume of discussion it gets in relation to everybody not just the BBC. The BBC was used as its the biggest example. It's interesting to hear people's thoughts on how the others are performing too whether they be pro or neg.
I'm going to quite happily do a BBC1 fantasy schedule, with some imagination for once, with a return for primetime comedy in a new slot, and a move for some of BBC1's drama series.
NOTE: I've picked the 9pm shows as an example, as they will be constantly changing.
Monday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm Traffic Cops
8:00pm EastEnders
8:30pm Grange Hill *
9:00pm Ashes to Ashes /+ high brow factual programming
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Panorama *
11:15pm Inside Sport
*Just an idea, axe Waterloo Road, and a primetime return for Grange Hill. If it's premiered before Ashes to Ashes and after EastEnders, it could pick up both a young & old nostalgic audience.
*Panorama, I feel, is far too serious for a pre-9pm slot, where it is doing badly anyway. Surely it would be more open to controversial editions if it follows the news in a later hour.
Tuesday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm EastEnders
8:00pm Watchdog
9:00pm Waking the Dead / Spooks /+ more drama from the BBC slate
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Movie Night
Wednesday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm DIY SOS
8:00pm Holby City *
9:00pm The Apprentice
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Not Going Out *
11:05pm That Mitchell & Webb Look
*Premiere Holby City in this new slot when The Apprentice starts, to give it a maximum chance of good figures going into Wednesday.
*A new comedy repeat slot for Wednesday nights, which could give BBC1's comedy series a good long term future.
Thursday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm EastEnders
8:00pm Top of the Pops *
9:00pm Would I Lie To You? *
9:30pm Gavin & Stacey
10:00pm BBC News at Ten *
10:35pm Question Time
*An incredibly ambitious plan, giving Top of the Pops an hours slot, in an attempt to bring the youth back to the BBC on Thursday nights. Bear in mind Thursday nights are teenager's favourites, as Skins & The Inbetweeners are on, etc.
*Shows aimed at a younger audience continue with comedy at 9pm-10pm, I feel they're wasted on Friday nights, as the young audience are usually out.
*Then at 10pm, comedy moves over to BBC2 perhaps, whilst BBC1 turns seriously political, with their news programme followed by Question Time
Friday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm A Question of Sport
8:00pm EastEnders
8:30pm Only Fools & Horses *
9:00pm Friday Night with Jonathan Ross *
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm This Week *
*At 8:30pm, BBC1 have their first real primetime repeat slot, where they showcase their best comedy over the years.
*In an ambitious plan, Friday Night with Jonathan Ross is moved to 9pm, and the budget is increased. Live at the Apollo also gets this slot?
*And This Week arrives post BBC News, which is a step foward for politics on the BBC.
Anyway, what do you think? As a traditional ITV fantasy scheduler, perhaps I've made grave errors with this one.
I don't know whether TOTP's weekly hourly slot could work at all, hmmm, I think it's important it returns though.
NOTE: I've picked the 9pm shows as an example, as they will be constantly changing.
Monday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm Traffic Cops
8:00pm EastEnders
8:30pm Grange Hill *
9:00pm Ashes to Ashes /+ high brow factual programming
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Panorama *
11:15pm Inside Sport
*Just an idea, axe Waterloo Road, and a primetime return for Grange Hill. If it's premiered before Ashes to Ashes and after EastEnders, it could pick up both a young & old nostalgic audience.
*Panorama, I feel, is far too serious for a pre-9pm slot, where it is doing badly anyway. Surely it would be more open to controversial editions if it follows the news in a later hour.
Tuesday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm EastEnders
8:00pm Watchdog
9:00pm Waking the Dead / Spooks /+ more drama from the BBC slate
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Movie Night
Wednesday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm DIY SOS
8:00pm Holby City *
9:00pm The Apprentice
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm Not Going Out *
11:05pm That Mitchell & Webb Look
*Premiere Holby City in this new slot when The Apprentice starts, to give it a maximum chance of good figures going into Wednesday.
*A new comedy repeat slot for Wednesday nights, which could give BBC1's comedy series a good long term future.
Thursday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm EastEnders
8:00pm Top of the Pops *
9:00pm Would I Lie To You? *
9:30pm Gavin & Stacey
10:00pm BBC News at Ten *
10:35pm Question Time
*An incredibly ambitious plan, giving Top of the Pops an hours slot, in an attempt to bring the youth back to the BBC on Thursday nights. Bear in mind Thursday nights are teenager's favourites, as Skins & The Inbetweeners are on, etc.
*Shows aimed at a younger audience continue with comedy at 9pm-10pm, I feel they're wasted on Friday nights, as the young audience are usually out.
*Then at 10pm, comedy moves over to BBC2 perhaps, whilst BBC1 turns seriously political, with their news programme followed by Question Time
Friday
7:00pm The One Show
7:30pm A Question of Sport
8:00pm EastEnders
8:30pm Only Fools & Horses *
9:00pm Friday Night with Jonathan Ross *
10:00pm BBC News at Ten
10:35pm This Week *
*At 8:30pm, BBC1 have their first real primetime repeat slot, where they showcase their best comedy over the years.
*In an ambitious plan, Friday Night with Jonathan Ross is moved to 9pm, and the budget is increased. Live at the Apollo also gets this slot?
*And This Week arrives post BBC News, which is a step foward for politics on the BBC.
Anyway, what do you think? As a traditional ITV fantasy scheduler, perhaps I've made grave errors with this one.
I don't know whether TOTP's weekly hourly slot could work at all, hmmm, I think it's important it returns though.
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“That's what I mean about the thread rather than it being full of ITV is so good posts which it isn't. It's more the sheer volume of discussion it gets in relation to everybody not just the BBC. The BBC was used as its the biggest example. It's interesting to hear people's thoughts on how the others are performing too whether they be pro or neg.”
“That's what I mean about the thread rather than it being full of ITV is so good posts which it isn't. It's more the sheer volume of discussion it gets in relation to everybody not just the BBC. The BBC was used as its the biggest example. It's interesting to hear people's thoughts on how the others are performing too whether they be pro or neg.”
I think there are a few reasons for this.
1) ITV is commercial television and ratings matter more
2) It was the people's channel up until about 10 years ago. Its decline has been quick and more prominent than that of BBC1's
3) BBC1 is unimaginatively. The majority of primetime shows are not new, just a second, third, fourth and so on series of a programme. The ratings become predictable.
4) There is now a mentality, well at least with me anyway, that ITV is the underdog and you've always got to support the underdog
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US Ratings
Friday 22nd to Thursday 28th
Original Programming Only
Unscripted:
CBS – ACM Special: George Strait.............10.61m..........2.1
FOX – So You Think You Can Dance? (T).....9.10m..........3.6
ABC – Wipeout............................................8.64m..........3.2
FOX – So You Think You Can Dance (W)......8.58m..........3.5
CBS – 60 Minutes........................................7.95m..........1.0
ABC – Basketball: Lakers vs Nuggets..........6.54m..........2.6
ABC – The Bachelorette...............................6.00m..........2.1
NBC – TV’s 50 Funniest Phrases..................5.75m..........2.1
ABC – National Spelling Bee.........................5.48m..........1.5
CBS – 48 Hours Mystery...............................5.47m..........1.2
ABC – Here Come The Newlyweds...............4.98m..........1.9
NBC – Dateline.............................................4.80m..........1.0
NBC – Dateline NBC......................................4.57m..........0.9
ABC – 20/20..................................................4.50m.........1.3
FOX – America’s Most Wanted.......................3.73m.........1.2
FOX – Don’t Forget The Lyrics........................3.22m.........1.0
Scripted:
NBC – Medium.............................................7.50m..........2.1
FOX – Mental...............................................5.80m..........2.1
NBC – Law And Order: Criminal Intent.........5.12m.........1.1*
ABC – Diamonds Pt 1....................................4.25m.........1.0**
ABC – The Goode Family...............................3.93m.........1.6
ABC – The Unusuals......................................3.91m.........1.2
CBS – Harpers Island....................................3.89m.........1.0
ABC – According to Jim...................................3.87m.........1.2
ABC – Diamonds Pt 2.....................................3.12m.........0.6
ABC – Surviving Suburbia...............................2.83m.........1.0
*Already shown on USA Network, new to NBC
**A 4 hour, 2 part drama... which bombed spectacularly.
CBS is doing well through repeats. NCIS and The Mentalist both had about 12.4m on Tuesday. House, on the other hand, had 4m. Mental is basically House set in a mental hospital and for a summer series, those ratings are OK. There are a few more scripted offerings to come, notably NBC’s Merlin.
When they went head-to-head on Wednesday at 8pm, Wipeout had the edge over SYTYCD in 18-49's and total viewers. SYTYCD was 2 hours and a strong showing from 9pm gave it the lead.
CBS will implement its planned fall changes to their schedule in June with the repeats currently airing. So The Mentalist to 10pm Thursday, Big Bang Theory to 9.30pm Monday etc.
CABLE NEWS:
9.8 million viewers tuned in to TLC’s reality series, Jon and Kate Plus 8 which follows a family with 8 children which is a pretty incredible number for a cable series. NBA Basketball is getting 7m-9m a night for ESPN and TNT. The Deadliest Catch is doing well for Discovery, beating the network competition among its target demographic (men 18-34). Disney are trying to spin the numbers for their new series, Jonas. But in reality, it’s doing OK at best and won’t be setting the world alight anytime soon.
________________________________________
Nothing in the US is beating the ratings for BGT. In fact, at 13.6m, the show is dangerously close to the peak rating of America’s Got Talent 2008 which was 13.8m.
Friday 22nd to Thursday 28th
Original Programming Only
Unscripted:
CBS – ACM Special: George Strait.............10.61m..........2.1
FOX – So You Think You Can Dance? (T).....9.10m..........3.6
ABC – Wipeout............................................8.64m..........3.2
FOX – So You Think You Can Dance (W)......8.58m..........3.5
CBS – 60 Minutes........................................7.95m..........1.0
ABC – Basketball: Lakers vs Nuggets..........6.54m..........2.6
ABC – The Bachelorette...............................6.00m..........2.1
NBC – TV’s 50 Funniest Phrases..................5.75m..........2.1
ABC – National Spelling Bee.........................5.48m..........1.5
CBS – 48 Hours Mystery...............................5.47m..........1.2
ABC – Here Come The Newlyweds...............4.98m..........1.9
NBC – Dateline.............................................4.80m..........1.0
NBC – Dateline NBC......................................4.57m..........0.9
ABC – 20/20..................................................4.50m.........1.3
FOX – America’s Most Wanted.......................3.73m.........1.2
FOX – Don’t Forget The Lyrics........................3.22m.........1.0
Scripted:
NBC – Medium.............................................7.50m..........2.1
FOX – Mental...............................................5.80m..........2.1
NBC – Law And Order: Criminal Intent.........5.12m.........1.1*
ABC – Diamonds Pt 1....................................4.25m.........1.0**
ABC – The Goode Family...............................3.93m.........1.6
ABC – The Unusuals......................................3.91m.........1.2
CBS – Harpers Island....................................3.89m.........1.0
ABC – According to Jim...................................3.87m.........1.2
ABC – Diamonds Pt 2.....................................3.12m.........0.6
ABC – Surviving Suburbia...............................2.83m.........1.0
*Already shown on USA Network, new to NBC
**A 4 hour, 2 part drama... which bombed spectacularly.
CBS is doing well through repeats. NCIS and The Mentalist both had about 12.4m on Tuesday. House, on the other hand, had 4m. Mental is basically House set in a mental hospital and for a summer series, those ratings are OK. There are a few more scripted offerings to come, notably NBC’s Merlin.
When they went head-to-head on Wednesday at 8pm, Wipeout had the edge over SYTYCD in 18-49's and total viewers. SYTYCD was 2 hours and a strong showing from 9pm gave it the lead.
CBS will implement its planned fall changes to their schedule in June with the repeats currently airing. So The Mentalist to 10pm Thursday, Big Bang Theory to 9.30pm Monday etc.
CABLE NEWS:
9.8 million viewers tuned in to TLC’s reality series, Jon and Kate Plus 8 which follows a family with 8 children which is a pretty incredible number for a cable series. NBA Basketball is getting 7m-9m a night for ESPN and TNT. The Deadliest Catch is doing well for Discovery, beating the network competition among its target demographic (men 18-34). Disney are trying to spin the numbers for their new series, Jonas. But in reality, it’s doing OK at best and won’t be setting the world alight anytime soon.
________________________________________
Nothing in the US is beating the ratings for BGT. In fact, at 13.6m, the show is dangerously close to the peak rating of America’s Got Talent 2008 which was 13.8m.
Originally Posted by DoctorASmith:
“This thread is incredibly pro-ITV anyway so I don't know why the ITV fans need to constantly be on the defence. Especially to some of the more silly attacks.”
“This thread is incredibly pro-ITV anyway so I don't know why the ITV fans need to constantly be on the defence. Especially to some of the more silly attacks.”
This week of any this year, all of the talk will be on ITV. Like it or not. That's just how it comes I'm afraid....
...a bit like how next week we'll be talking about Channel 4 when Big Brother comes around, and in a few weeks we'll probably be talking about BBC when Wimbledon comes around. I don't think this thread is biased.
What do you expect us to do? Ignore ITV this week with Britain's Got Talent on? Don't talk stupid. I do agree, though, that some fantasy schedules for ITV in this thread seem to be over the top. But when it comes to ratings, we congratulate for both for good ratings and at the same point show our disappointment if something flops (expectedly). I don't think we are pro-ITV considering how we slate many of their programmes!
And before you even say "this is ITV", it is perfectly relevant to this thread....
The Bill goes HD on July 1st, with a six-parter story. It says the 9pm slot is "later in the year" - I'd think about September/October - doing it in the Summer and there's a threat of viewers losing it when people are tuning in and out with the weather.
How about an early Christmas prediction on ITV1 ?
Christmas Day
15:00 The Queen
15:10 The Susan Boyle Story
Boxing Day
20:00 An Audience with Susan Boyle
I'd make an inspired scheduler me.
Christmas Day
15:00 The Queen
15:10 The Susan Boyle Story
Boxing Day
20:00 An Audience with Susan Boyle
I'd make an inspired scheduler me.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“How about an early Christmas prediction on ITV1 ?
Christmas Day
15:00 The Queen
15:10 The Susan Boyle Story
Boxing Day
20:00 An Audience with Susan Boyle
I'd make an inspired scheduler me.”
“How about an early Christmas prediction on ITV1 ?
Christmas Day
15:00 The Queen
15:10 The Susan Boyle Story
Boxing Day
20:00 An Audience with Susan Boyle
I'd make an inspired scheduler me.
”
It'll certainly be STV's schedule.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The Bill goes HD on July 1st, with a six-parter story. It says the 9pm slot is "later in the year" - I'd think about September/October - doing it in the Summer and there's a threat of viewers losing it when people are tuning in and out with the weather.”
“The Bill goes HD on July 1st, with a six-parter story. It says the 9pm slot is "later in the year" - I'd think about September/October - doing it in the Summer and there's a threat of viewers losing it when people are tuning in and out with the weather.”
So is this the first of ITV's 'continuing dramas' to go HD then? At least that's one show to add to ITV HD's currently barren schedule.
Broadcast has some BGT 2009 demo averages so far:
Overnight Average - 11,700,000
16-34 Audience Av. - 2,587,000
ABC Audience Av. - 4,560,000
Compare it with X Factor 2008 (Series 5):
Overnight Average - 9,703,000
16-34 Audience Av. - 2,461,000
ABC1 Audience Av. - 3,645,000
Of course it's excluding tonight's semi and tomorrow's final, but BGT is well up in the overall viewership from TXF (2m+). ABC1 Average is about 1 million up, but the 16-34s are fairly similar. BGT is definitely more of a family show I think.
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Also, not many people have mentioned tomorrow's All Star Mr and Mrs- that surely will see a huge boost? If NaT is getting about 6m, then I reckon M&M could be seeing somwhere in the region of 8m due to the sandwich by BGT.
Overnight Average - 11,700,000
16-34 Audience Av. - 2,587,000
ABC Audience Av. - 4,560,000
Compare it with X Factor 2008 (Series 5):
Overnight Average - 9,703,000
16-34 Audience Av. - 2,461,000
ABC1 Audience Av. - 3,645,000
Of course it's excluding tonight's semi and tomorrow's final, but BGT is well up in the overall viewership from TXF (2m+). ABC1 Average is about 1 million up, but the 16-34s are fairly similar. BGT is definitely more of a family show I think.
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Also, not many people have mentioned tomorrow's All Star Mr and Mrs- that surely will see a huge boost? If NaT is getting about 6m, then I reckon M&M could be seeing somwhere in the region of 8m due to the sandwich by BGT.
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“So is this the first of ITV's 'continuing dramas' to go HD then? At least that's one show to add to ITV HD's currently barren schedule.”
“So is this the first of ITV's 'continuing dramas' to go HD then? At least that's one show to add to ITV HD's currently barren schedule.”
The investment should scotch rumours that ITV might axe The Bill completely.
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