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Ratings Thread (Part 3 - Part 4)
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bob.cryer
30-05-2009
I have heard rumblings on 22.3 million as an overnight for BGT final
Andy23
30-05-2009
It is exciting and this thread has come alive

Normally it's all a bit boring debating one 4m show against one 5m show and making judgements based on one poor rating for a programme which generally bounce back the next day

Imagine if this thread had been around in the old days when everything got 10m!
Agent F
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I think X Factor will do very well again-bouyed up somewhat by BGT and the fact that the publics desire for more of the same is still growing. Its hard to see this years BGT being topped but I thought that last year.”

I can't see TXF repeating the same feat this year and surpassing BGT. The thing about Talent is that it's a show that seems to cater for everyone - TXF is a wonderfully produced show but often it's more about the drama and less about the singing, and singing is not everybody's cup of tea. I think it'll be another popular series, just not hitting the exceptional heights of BGT.
Chris1964
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“I have heard rumblings on 22.3 million as an overnight for BGT final”

Are these stomach rumblings after lots of alcohol?
rzt
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“I have heard rumblings on 22.3 million as an overnight for BGT final”

The ratings come out at 09:30 tomorrow. Have you just made that figure up ?

I would be shocked if it did get anywhere near that !
Chris1964
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I can't see TXF repeating the same feat this year and surpassing BGT. The thing about Talent is that it's a show that seems to cater for everyone - TXF is a wonderfully produced show but often it's more about the drama and less about the singing, and singing is not everybody's cup of tea. I think it'll be another popular series, just not hitting the exceptional heights of BGT.”

What i meant to say was that BGT can only really be topped by BGT. BGT appeals, as I think you suggest, to a wider demographic-X Factor has/is becoming more entrenched in finding young pop starlets for teens to scream at.
Andy23
30-05-2009
I think we've reached the peak. I can see X Factor still doing very well but perhaps doing slightly less well than last year.

The next question is will the feel good factor extend to Big Brother this year?
RobbieSykes123
30-05-2009
Christ, this thread has become a BGT ratings wankfest before the overnights have even been published....

I've had a most convivial and enjoyable evening unsullied by tacky talent contests (although I've just seen the 'climax'/extended highlights on the ITV "news" which I've got on now), but one thing I did notice - it was dead everywhere out there. Almost Diana-funeral like. On a glorious summer evening too.

Sadly, this points to mega-ratings. I'm convinced it will have broken 20m.

I may have to emigrate....
Chris1964
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It is exciting and this thread has come alive

Normally it's all a bit boring debating one 4m show against one 5m show and making judgements based on one poor rating for a programme which generally bounce back the next day

Imagine if this thread had been around in the old days when everything got 10m!”


There arent many highs, BGT week, X Factor/SCD/DOI finals, Children in Need, Comic Relief nights-possibly Eurovision. Possible highs dependant on sometimes extreme fate on sporting finals. Oh and Christmas Day ofcourse!
rzt
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I may have to emigrate.... ”

You said that last year after BGT got 11m and 13.1m :
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=1806

But I dunno about 20m+, even for a peak. Just sounds like an impossible figure for a television programme nowadays (apart from England footy).
Chris1964
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Christ, this thread has become a BGT ratings wankfest before the overnights have even been published....

I've had a most convivial and enjoyable evening unsullied by tacky talent contests (although I've just seen the 'climax'/extended highlights on the ITV "news" which I've got on now), but one thing I did notice - it was dead everywhere out there. Almost Diana-funeral like. On a glorious summer evening too.

Sadly, this points to mega-ratings. I'm convinced it will have broken 20m.

I may have to emigrate.... ”

Twenty million is too many surely? After all the only interesting bit of the results is the last 5 mins?
RobbieSykes123
30-05-2009
Based on the deserted streets, restaurant and pubs I've witnessed this evening, I'm going to hold my nose and say:

- main show 15m
- results show 19m (peak 21m at 9.55pm)

At least it's all over now, and we can look forward to Supersized Teens pulling 2.5m on Monday...
bob.cryer
30-05-2009
The information being sent back from the BARB boxes would be the source!
rzt
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Based on the deserted streets, restaurant and pubs I've witnessed this evening, I'm going to hold my nose and say:

- main show 15m
- results show 19m (peak 21m at 9.55pm)

At least it's all over now, and we can look forward to Supersized Teens pulling 2.5m on Monday... ”

You're not inflating your predictions deliberately, are you ?
C14E
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It is exciting and this thread has come alive

Normally it's all a bit boring debating one 4m show against one 5m show and making judgements based on one poor rating for a programme which generally bounce back the next day

Imagine if this thread had been around in the old days when everything got 10m!”

I was going to say that I can think of at least one person who won't be pleased to see this buzz... maybe if we all talked about the expected ratings for a Reggie Perrin repeat he'd be happier?

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“What i meant to say was that BGT can only really be topped by BGT. BGT appeals, as I think you suggest, to a wider demographic-X Factor has/is becoming more entrenched in finding young pop starlets for teens to scream at.”

I think XF is probably too long to match this. BGT performs best during that one week of live shows whereas XF is just once a week.

That said, Amanda Holden started whining to Simon on More Talent about why BGT is so much shorter than XF!

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I think we've reached the peak. I can see X Factor still doing very well but perhaps doing slightly less well than last year.

The next question is will the feel good factor extend to Big Brother this year?”

Agree about XF.

But... oh dear... Big Brother. I think we could see a major slump like it had for BB8 (dropped from 4.7m to 3.9m). BGT has totally squeezed it out and I think we could see some painfully low launch show ratings.

EDIT: 20m+ is insane. That's like a 90% audience share!
Agent F
30-05-2009
With all these unbelievably ambitious predictions I think we'll all be undeniably underwhelmed if/when the overnight comes in at just over 15 million...
Agent F
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“But... oh dear... Big Brother. I think we could see a major slump like it had for BB8 (dropped from 4.7m to 3.9m). BGT has totally squeezed it out and I think we could see some painfully low launch show ratings.”

As a self-confessed Big Brother fan, I'm not really fussed about this series. Especially after a packed week of BGT, it just seems like we're heading for an almighty comedown after an indescribable high.
rzt
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“With all these unbelievably ambitious predictions I think we'll all be undeniably underwhelmed if/when the overnight comes in at just over 15 million...”

I have to agree. What's all this 22m talk about? Absolute bollocks.
davey_wavey
30-05-2009
I am looking forward to Big Brother this year as always, but I really dread to see the launch show ratings
Chris1964
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Based on the deserted streets, restaurant and pubs I've witnessed this evening, I'm going to hold my nose and say:

- main show 15m
- results show 19m (peak 21m at 9.55pm)

At least it's all over now, and we can look forward to Supersized Teens pulling 2.5m on Monday... ”

Well I reckon 14.5 million average for the main show-17.5 million for the results with a peak of 19.5 milion at the decision point.
Its a fabulous show in its way-but if it breaks 20 million-even as a peak, I think it will be arguably the most hyped programme in tv history.
C14E
30-05-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“With all these unbelievably ambitious predictions I think we'll all be undeniably underwhelmed if/when the overnight comes in at just over 15 million...”

Which is quite ridiculous!

And I'd be expecting about 15m for the results. Peak around 16m.

I think it's just a combination of the excitement of tonights show and the surprise result pushing up expectations and some others pushing up the numbers for other reasons!

I'm sticking to my earlier predictions.
square_eyes
30-05-2009
BGT was quite a spectacle tonight, not seen anything on TV with that kind of buzz for some time.

Perhaps potential for ITV2's biggest ever audience tonight for BGMT ?
Agent F
31-05-2009
Yes, I think we can rule out peaks of '20 million' right now. I'm interested to see how it did, but I'm not expecting anything extraordinary (which that would be) - a peak of 16 million sounds realistic - it'd be in line with the way this series has gone.
RobbieSykes123
31-05-2009
I don't think it's insane to predict 20m or say it would need a 90% share. There are 60m people in this country, and it's clear from the deserted streets earlier (I had the advantage over most of you lot of not actually being sat inside watching the guff!) that millions of people were watching the telly tonight, even at 7pm, who otherwise wouldn't have been.

And if Bob.Cryer really does have inside BARB info, that would also tend to support what's been seen on the ground. It's clear that if you have a complete media stranglehold in every paper (even the better ones), news outlet, internet site, then even people who haven't been bothered to watch before will have tuned in tonight, just out of curiosity or to see what all the fuss is about. (I suspect they may still be scratching their heads...)

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“As a self-confessed Big Brother fan, I'm not really fussed about this series. Especially after a packed week of BGT, it just seems like we're heading for an almighty comedown after an indescribable high. ”

Dear god, some people need to get a life!
Andy23
31-05-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“At least it's all over now, and we can look forward to Supersized Teens pulling 2.5m on Monday... ”

Exactly and Ashes to Ashes getting about 4.5m and winning the slot, which in both cases is not exactly thrilling
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