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Ratings Thread (Part 3 - Part 4)
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Dead Parrot
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“I dont know why people are surprised about Hell's Kitchen.

It was obvious that missing a night then going up against The Apprentice was going to be a disaster.

It'll slowly rise again, with barely any competition and good lead-ins coming up, right through until next Wednesday.”

Isn't it up against Ashes To Ashes on Monday?
GeorgeS
16-04-2009
Sky Sports 2

Manchester United vs. FC Porto
9pm - 10pm average 1.7m (7 .5%)
7pm - 10.30pm average 1.2m (6.2%)

Sky Sports 3

Arsenal vs. Villareal
7.30pm - 10pm 392,000 (1.9%)

Both slightly low IMO.
rzt
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“The reality of AI is that they are mostly high for practically every programme within a series, only dipping for the odd episode.”

Al Murray's latest show got an AI of just 69 - one of the worst AIs for any channel throughout that week.

It's even more astonishing considering only 1.6m actually watched it, and presumably most of them willingly chose to watch it.
D.M.N.
16-04-2009
The F1 for the Malaysian Grand Prix goes in at #28 on BBC One's list. Should any of the European races get ~5m, which I think will happen, then it'd be looking at about #15 on the list. Interestingly, if the F1 got 4.36m and was still on ITV1 for that particular week, it would have gone in at #15 on their list.

It's interesting to note how the lists contrast, for instance BBC One has a lot of shows in the 5 millions and 4 millions, but ITV has hardly any there on the BARB lists.
GeorgeS
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“It's interesting to note how the lists contrast, for instance BBC One has a lot of shows in the 5 millions and 4 millions, but ITV has hardly any there on the BARB lists.”

BBC1's list is composed of the Six & Ten News (10); The One Show (5); Weekend News (4); Eastenders (4); other (7)

Although I did note with concern that not all One Show editions made it into the Top 30 this week - I do hope everything is ok there?
D.M.N.
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“BBC1's list is composed of the Six & Ten News (10); The One Show (5); Weekend News (4); Eastenders (4); other (7)

Although I did note with concern that not all One Show editions made it into the Top 30 this week - I do hope everything is ok there? ”

So how come you've put "5" in brackets next to The One Show? Can't you count?

And BTW, that is irrelevant what is in the list, ITV has to rely so much on soaps.
ElliotSaund
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Wednesday 15th April Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.57m (20.2%)
20:00- Waterloo Road: 4.1m (18.1%)
21:00- The Apprentice: 7.02m (28.4%)

BBC Two
20:00- The Speaker: 1.16m (5.1%)
21:00- Alan Whicker's Journey Of A Lifetime: 1.78m (7.2%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.63m (34.9%)
19:30- Coronation Street: 8.6m (41.3%)
20:00- The Bill: 4.64m (20.5%)
21:00- Hell's Kitchen: 2.47m (10%)

Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 2.21m [inc. +1]
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.52m (8.3%) , +1: 141k (0.7%)
20:00- Embarrassing Bodies: 2.66m (11.7%)
21:00- Grand Designs: 2.26m (9.2%)
22:00- Desperate Housewives: 1.75m [inc. +1]

Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.35m (10.1%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.15m (6.9%)
20:00- Oil Riggers: 1.01m (4.5%)
21:00- Extraordinary People: Britain's Tiniest Toddlers: 1.59m (6.4%)

BBC Four
21:00- Mud, Sweat and Tractors: The Story Of Agriculture: 441k (2%)
22:30- Charlie Brooker's Newswipe: 245k (1.7%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 483k (2.8%) , +1: 110k (0.5%)
21:00- Sky Captain and the World: 373k [inc. +1]

Film4 [inc. +1]
19:00- Just My Luck: 107k
21:00- Little Children: 189k

More4 [inc. +1]
21:00- Time Team Special: 194k
22:00- City of Vice: 98k

Fiver
18:30- Home and Away: 570k (3.5%)
19:00- Neighbours: 219k (1.3%)

ITV2
21:00- Gossip Girl: 134k (0.6%)
00:00- Coronation Street: 165k (3.3%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 21.2%
ITV1: 19.4%
Channel 4: 8.5% , +1: 1.2%
BBC Two: 7.5%
Five: 4.8%

All Hours Shares
BBC One: 19.2%
ITV1: 17.5%
Channel 4 [inc. +1]: 9.0%
BBC Two: 7.2%
Five: 4.7%

Source: DS, DS (2)”

Slightly down on the series average for Waterloo Road, has to be concering for BBC seeing as they have ordered a 20 part series 5 and if ratings continue to fall then maybe they will withdraw this commision?

The Apprentice has held onto a steady audience although it dropped over 1M since it's debut a few weeks ago, the last few weeks have remained consistent.

Awful night for ITV with Hells Kitchen flopping, although the Bill wasn't quite such a disaster this week.
Jonwo
16-04-2009
The ITV Press Office has just released info on Islands of Britain and it will on Sundays in May, I think it will do well for them as Martin Clunes is popular with ITV viewers and is about to star in Reggin Perrin.
bingbong
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Al Murray's latest show got an AI of just 69 - one of the worst AIs for any channel throughout that week.

It's even more astonishing considering only 1.6m actually watched it, and presumably most of them willingly chose to watch it. ”


I watched it by accident, and found myself laughing a lot. In mitigation i was on my computer at the time.
GeorgeS
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“And BTW, that is irrelevant what is in the list, ITV has to rely so much on soaps.”

If its irrelevant what is on the list, why raise it in the 1st place?

The point is that ITV funnel their spend on event tv. Its what delivers the advertisers. BBC has a core audience that is bigger, but less advertiser friendly.

So should ITV go after an audience the advertisers dont want to pay for, just so that their Top 30 looks better?
mlt11
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Sky Sports 2

Manchester United vs. FC Porto
9pm - 10pm average 1.7m (7 .5%)
7pm - 10.30pm average 1.2m (6.2%)

Sky Sports 3

Arsenal vs. Villareal
7.30pm - 10pm 392,000 (1.9%)

Both slightly low IMO.”

The matches both finished around 9.35pm to 9.40pm. So the 9pm to 10pm hour includes quite a lot of post match.

From the above I would estimate match averages (ie 7.45 to 9.40pm) of around 1.8m and 500,000. Total of 2.3m would be excellent for Sky.
Dancc
16-04-2009
LOL, even my local Heart station has been slagging off Hell's Kitchen's ratings this afternoon. (2m for HK vs 7m for The Apprentice, "rubbish without Angus" etc) That won't be pleasing to ITV given they [Global Radio] are one of their leading advertisers at the moment.
Manxy 2007
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I presume you mean, bang in the middle of Britain's Got Talent week? I don't think I'd see ITV move all of the soaphour forward to accomate it, I just can't see them ever doing this:

17:30 - ITV Evening News
18:00 - Regional News
18:30 - Emmerdale
19:00 - Coronation Street
19:30 - Britain's Got Talent
21:00 - Hell's Kitchen
22:00 - Britain's Got Talent Results
22:30 - News at Ten-Thirty

I could never see them doing that, but it would give them a damn good primetime line-up, that's for sure.”

I think that should use the BGT Week, as a week to launch new family shows and completely dropping the soaps, which would both be left on cliffhangers. My schedule would go something like this:

19:00 - Family comedy show (5 episodes)
19:30 - Britain's Got Talent Live
20:30 - Gameshow specials
21:30 - Britain's Got Talent The Results
22:00 - News at Ten
Alrightmate
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“For the Saturday 25th April schedules, Radio Times is currently indicating that The Colour of Money is back at 18:30 with Primeval at 19:30 and BGT at 20:30.

But the ITV Press Centre is saying that Primeval is at 19:00 and there's no sign of Colour of Money.

Can someone with Digiguide please confirm which one's correct?
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Also, Martin Clunes: Islands of Britain will be taking the 9pm slot from Sunday 3rd May for 3 weeks.”

Well that's good. That would be a decent time for that show.
Even 7pm will be better for it than the ridiculously early time it was on last week before New You've Been Framed.
gottago
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Watched CBS News last night. They've got a reporter in Bathgate and they told people to join them on The Early Show this morning where Susan would be singing live from her kitchen, lol.”

Given all the woes NBC have been having lately, would it be such a terrible idea for them to air Britain's Got Talent alongside America's Got Talent?! Or would Simon's exclusive contract with Fox prevent him from appearing on the channel?
rzt
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“The ITV Press Office has just released info on Islands of Britain and it will on Sundays in May, I think it will do well for them as Martin Clunes is popular with ITV viewers and is about to star in Reggin Perrin.”

The Press Pack says it is starting on Sunday 3rd May. I suppose it'll be 9pm as that's the only slot available.

Originally Posted by Manxy 2007:
“I think that should use the BGT Week, as a week to launch new family shows and completely dropping the soaps, which would both be left on cliffhangers. My schedule would go something like this:

19:00 - Family comedy show (5 episodes)
19:30 - Britain's Got Talent Live
20:30 - Gameshow specials
21:30 - Britain's Got Talent The Results
22:00 - News at Ten”

I like the idea of launching new shows in a BGT, TXF or DOI sandwich.

But I don't particularly like the schedule you've proposed above. Firstly, because BGT would clash against EastEnders. Obviously BGT would win, but it would probably knock of a couple of million potential viewers.

Secondly - I think getting rid of soaps for one week would be a bad idea. Millions of people tune into soaps out of habit. If you suddenly completely get rid of them for one week, I do think it could have detrimental long term effect.

Ideally for me, I would prefer less episodes of soaps per week. But getting rid of all the soap episodes for an entire week could be risky (IMO).
KennyT
16-04-2009
I noticed that, buried away at the bottom of this week's "other top 30", there's a Cbeebies prog! Anyone know anything about "Chuggington", and why it got over half a million watching it?

K
Dancc
16-04-2009
A good opportunity for ITV here. Roy Walker would be willing to do Catchphrase again:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1529...se-return.html

Bring it back. It's time.
ZoeMcCallister
16-04-2009
Great scheduling for Islands Of Britain and a decision ITV have made right for once! Obviously capitalising on the success of Clunes' recent Sunday series and deciding it was worthy of more than a Thursday 9pm slot.

This should also give Heartbeat a slight boost with the older audience attracted to ITV from 8-10pm.
D.M.N.
16-04-2009
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1529...-identity.html

Quote:
“ITV has announced that Aiden Gillen and Keeley Hawes will star in its new drama Identity.

The six-part series revolves around an elite police unit formed to combat the explosion of identity-related crime.

Ashes To Ashes star Hawes will play DSI Martha Lawrence, the founder of the unit, while The Wire's Aiden Gillen is cast as DI Michael Bloom, Martha's employee who is described as the 'secret weapon' of the Identity Unit.”

I think this could be a hit, looks like a hit, but at the same time could flop.
sn_22
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1529...-identity.html

I think this could be a hit, looks like a hit, but at the same time could flop.”

Looks like its got all the makings of a hit. A very reliable genre with a good cast.

Another cop show though - it'd be nice to see other types of dramas occasionally - I suppose they'll stick to what they're good at, and what brings them good numbers.
Agent F
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I think this could be a hit, looks like a hit, but at the same time could flop.”

Covering all bases, I see.
jde-tv
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by gottago:
“Given all the woes NBC have been having lately, would it be such a terrible idea for them to air Britain's Got Talent alongside America's Got Talent?! Or would Simon's exclusive contract with Fox prevent him from appearing on the channel?”

I think they should! It cant do any worse then some of there own stuff! (which cost allot more then buying BGT) I also dont see why more American neworks dont buy more UK shows, FOX could show the X Factor on a friday or something!
iHelix
16-04-2009
Absolutely dreadful for Hell's Kitchen. A drop of around 2.5m from the first episode is terrible! I know it was up against The Apprentice, which has a continuous steady audience of around 7m, but my gosh. I expected HK to get at least 3.5m!

If the ratings get any worse, we can kiss goodbye to any future series.
Jonwo
16-04-2009
Originally Posted by jde-tv:
“I think they should! It cant do any worse then some of there own stuff! (which cost allot more then buying BGT) I also dont see why more American neworks dont buy more UK shows, FOX could show the X Factor on a friday or something!”

It would never happen though for the same reason why we never see American Idol or Dancing with the Stars in primetime on ITV1 or BBC One, it would flop.

I love watching American shows like Idol, CSI or The Mentalist but there are people who refuse to watch 'foreign' shows and that it true to the US.
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