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Ratings Thread (Part 3 - Part 4)
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RobbieSykes123
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by Score:
“Yes, but didn't that have to air on Christmas Day, in an Eastenders sandwich, when everyone watches BBC1 by default, to get those ratings? As opposed to BGT, which aired on a Saturday night with nice weather.

Also, BGT got more than double its nearest rival, Wallace and Gromit couldn't manage that, could it?

(No disrespect to W&G, it was great and deserved to do well).”

I know I missed off a or a or a , but I think the spirit of my last post was fairly obvious...
Dancc
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Great for the F1! The fact that 1m people watched Qualifying from 06:00 to 08:15 tells you something.”

Some Britons have more stamina than others getting up at silly o'clock on a Saturday?
Alrightmate
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by smile371:
“Not too bad of a start for TTN, only narrowly beating Primeval, which is back up this week to an ok level, but it deserved more as it was a very good episode. Great rating for Hells Kitchen, seems to have benifited from BGT (unlike the colour of Money!)

Robin Hood and Primeval both seem unsure of thier ratings this year! Up and down they seem to be, but hopefully both will get a 4th series, as neither of them are rating too badly.”

It certainly was. It must have been its most expensive episode ever. It was almost like a proper film the way it was made and with many of its camera shots.
Very entertaining.
It deserves good ratings. It would be good if it could keep that level up.
Chris1964
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Oh...it is.”

Without getting into a pantomime exchange , we will agree to disagree.
What about Celebrity Wrestling, Love Island, that BBC series where Davina Macall followed the birth of babies. Some of the segments in the show were ok-the public participation bits are no different to those people turning up on BGT. Im not the greatest Barrowman fan but the show is watchable even if it will never change the world.
There is an agenda against BBC entertainment attempts, because people dont tend to see further than the massively hyped up reality formats. Most peoples opinions here were made before the show even came on.
Score
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I know I missed off a or a or a , but I think the spirit of my last post was fairly obvious...”

I wasn't being entirely serious either Robbie, I even included a , which I wouldn't use in a serious post. I was just doing what you do (not anywhere near as well, I must admit) in reverse.
Agent F
19-04-2009
I give credit to the BBC where it's due - Strictly and the Lloyd Webber shows have been brilliantly produced. And I'm no fan of many of ITV's entertainment attempts either - Beat the Star and other shows of that ilk are not to my taste at all. But it's hard for me to find any show fronted by the ubiquitous Barrowman tolerable.
PJMillar
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Steady on - 11.9m is v. good, but after all the hype this week, it's not all that stellar.

And it's still 4.5m behind the sort of ratings the animated adventures of a inventor and his pet dog can pull in for the other side...”

Steady on, considering the time of year, I think it's as good as Wallace & Gromit. Xmas Day is always going to pull surprising ratings.

And yes, I suppose all the hype has helped, but there won't be as much hype after this week's episode, so if viewing figures go up or stay the same next week, you'll have to admit it is THAT stellar.
claire2281
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It certainly was. It must have been its most expensive episode ever. It was almost like a proper film the way it was made and with many of its camera shots.
Very entertaining.
It deserves good ratings. It would be good if it could keep that level up.”

Looking at the graph, it seems that Robin Hood and Primeval are about on par ratings wise, RH just being stuffed by its early start time.

I'd say Primeval needs to keep that rating minimum if it wants to come back (although I still reckon they were expecting 5m+ for it)
Woody_Enfield
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Steady on - 11.9m is v. good, but after all the hype this week, it's not all that stellar.

And it's still 4.5m behind the sort of ratings the animated adventures of a inventor and his pet dog can pull in for the other side...”

Agreed.

I know it was slightly the pre-digital age, but even Les Dennis and Family Fortunes used to get those sort of ratings ten years ago.
dubsj
19-04-2009
Some other stats:

ITV2: Britain's Got More Talent did 1.5m

Arsenal v Chelsea on Setanta Sports 1 peaked at 1.3m.
D.M.N.
19-04-2009
Saturday 18th April 2009 - **THE 15-MINUTE BREAKDOWN!**
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Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Some other stats:

ITV2: Britain's Got More Talent did 1.5m

Arsenal v Chelsea on Setanta Sports 1 peaked at 1.3m.”

Superb for BGMT, guess that's OK for SS1.
Agent F
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by Woody_Enfield:
“Agreed.

I know it was slightly the pre-digital age, but even Les Dennis and Family Fortunes used to get those sort of ratings ten years ago.”

I'm struggling to see your point.
Alrightmate
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Next week they've got the Kelly Brook debacle. It won't be as high, but 10m-ish is still a possibility and it'll still be the #1 show on TV. And her name is Susan Boyle, you know that. Larry King, Demi Moore and Oprah know that.

Results have been a foregone conclusion on many shows. Paul Potts was always going to win series 1, Alesha Dixon was destined to win her year of SCD, Leona Lewis was certain to win X Factor. They still get good ratings.”

They have on BGT.
I remember people annoyed last year that for the lineup of the final last year it was made up of the final act of each preliminary round show of the series, plus the other good one from each respective episode.

So anybody who is last in the lineup of these BGT preliminary shows is a shoe-in for the final and we shouldn't be surprised that the final act of each show is going to get a massive reception no matter how much they play them down before they perform on the night.

If it's the last act of the show, and they play them down as having a tough life showing a VT, and they imply that they might not be very good, you can be guaranteed that they will be the favourite act on the night.
Score
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Looking at the graph, it seems that Robin Hood and Primeval are about on par ratings wise, RH just being stuffed by its early start time.

I'd say Primeval needs to keep that rating minimum if it wants to come back (although I still reckon they were expecting 5m+ for it)”

Yeah, it needs to at least stay there, although the weather was very good last night, so that will have dented it. All the more reason to praise, BGT, really.

I expect Primeval to rise next week, as they advertised it several times during BGT and HK last night, and I'd imagine they will continue to do so this week, which will help it, as they are giving it a 'new team, same goal' campaign.
Dancc
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Some other stats:

ITV2: Britain's Got More Talent did 1.5m

Arsenal v Chelsea on Setanta Sports 1 peaked at 1.3m.”

Thank you, kind sir. Strong for BGMT but suprised it didn't do better actually given the surge the main show is experiencing. I suppose this goes to show that for most 1 hour is enough for their "talent" fix.

The footie looked a little low until I saw it was on Setanta. That explains it
Score
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Some other stats:

ITV2: Britain's Got More Talent did 1.5m

Arsenal v Chelsea on Setanta Sports 1 peaked at 1.3m.”

Cheers for those, brilliant for BGMT.

Do you have anything for Friday's Hell's Kitchen? Thanks.
C14E
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“And yes, I suppose all the hype has helped, but there won't be as much hype after this week's episode, so if viewing figures go up or stay the same next week, you'll have to admit it is THAT stellar.”

I don't see how the ratings can be knocked because of "hype". The hype came as a result of the programme. If the programme didn't connect with people then there would be no hype.

Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“They have on BGT.
I remember people annoyed last year that for the lineup of the final last year it was made up of the final act of each preliminary round show of the series, plus the other good one from each respective episode.

So anybody who is last in the lineup of these BGT preliminary shows is a shoe-in for the final and we shouldn't be surprised that the final act of each show is going to get a massive reception no matter how much they play them down before they perform on the night.

If it's the last act of the show, and they play them down as having a tough life showing a VT, and they imply that they might not be very good, you can be guaranteed that they will be the favourite act on the night.”

They did it last night as well and they'll probably do it for the next few weeks as well in the auditions.

And you're not meant to be surprised in the semi-finals. You're meant to stick with the show through the whole 90 minutes to see the best and most anticipated act at the end. It happens on every show. On X Factor the last act is always good, same on SCD, American Idol etc. Any kind of live entertainment event should have a big finish.

That said, last years final was wide open. The top 5 were all very good and equally hyped. It could have gone to anyone.
PJMillar
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I don't see how the ratings can be knocked because of "hype". The hype came as a result of the programme. If the programme didn't connect with people then there would be no hype.
”

What? I'm talking about the Susan Boyle news of the last week...it's been in the newspapers, etc...that won't happen this week...that's all I'm saying...I'm not talking about the programme itself...the programme itself would bring in 10 million on its own, without any extra media hype.
GeorgeS
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Yeah, Boyle, Doyle, Gargoyle, whatever....”

Have you ever considered being a judge on reality tv. You have the personality for it.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Steady on - 11.9m is v. good, but after all the hype this week, it's not all that stellar.”

ITV must be disappointed... blah blah blah. Well the repeats will add another few million to that number as well and the show is still building. Hope you have no plans for the last week of May
D.M.N.
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Have you ever considered being a judge on reality tv. You have the personality for it.”

Start the campaign!

"Robbie for Strictly Come Dancing judge 2009!"

dubsj
19-04-2009
Cheers for those, brilliant for BGMT.

Do you have anything for Friday's Hell's Kitchen? Thanks.

Hell's Kitchen on Friday did 3.9m / 17.7% share.
D.M.N.
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Cheers for those, brilliant for BGMT.

Do you have anything for Friday's Hell's Kitchen? Thanks.

Hell's Kitchen on Friday did 3.9m / 17.7% share.”

Solid rating for Hell's Kitchen... better than ITV's past offerings on Friday this year anyway! (excluding T&R).
Score
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Cheers for those, brilliant for BGMT.

Do you have anything for Friday's Hell's Kitchen? Thanks.

Hell's Kitchen on Friday did 3.9m / 17.7% share.”

Thanks.

That's a solid rating, and so far, the series average is 4m (17.2%), which is decent enough, if nothing special.
Alrightmate
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Looking at the graph, it seems that Robin Hood and Primeval are about on par ratings wise, RH just being stuffed by its early start time.

I'd say Primeval needs to keep that rating minimum if it wants to come back (although I still reckon they were expecting 5m+ for it)”

I agree with that. Whether it's Robin Hood or Primeval they both suffer if put on around 6pm. Put them on at around 7pm and they do fine. The same can be said of Merlin too.
You can even put them up against each other at around 7pm too and they'll still both do well.

But put any of them on around 6pm to 6.15pm and they get caned.

It was very reassuring reading that graph to see that Primeval's ratings rose over the hour. That's a very good sign.
rzt
19-04-2009
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Hell's Kitchen on Friday did 3.9m / 17.7% share.”

Thank you. It probably won its slot and it's ITV's highest Friday 9pm rating in a while.

Do you know what Genius got on BBC2 at 10pm? I don't think the overnight ratings for Genius has been reported in recent weeks, so would be interesting to see how it's getting on .
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