Change of direction for the show? Not wanting to tarnish the new host? Look at Big Brother's Big Mouth. Russell Brand made that show and they've attempted to replace chalk with chalk, and the comedians who have attempted to present the show have tried to emulate Russell's style and it has failed. Those who are not comedians and have a different style of presenting were usually more successful imo.

CBS did very well and they are on course to win the season in total viewers although FOX will easily top the 18-49s. Considering CBS is considered the older network, it's still an achievement to be second only to FOX and they don't even have a ratings juggernaut like Idol or DWTS.

A good end for Dancing on Ice, and, given how well it's performed this year and last, maybe ITV should think about moving the early Britain Has Talent shows to Sundays this year. Better to have a strong show such as Talent leading in to the Sunday dramas, than a much weaker one like Mr and Mrs.

A predictably low "all-day" for BBC One yesterday, with Antiques Roadshow being the only surprise (low) rating. I think last night's repeat was of an edition shown just before Christmas, whereas the previous few weeks' repeats were from two or three months earlier.

Just looking at some of the multi-channel ratings and in the afternoons at about 5pm, the Disney channel is picking up nearly 400,000 viewers for Hannah Montana. Considering it isn't on Freeview, that's pretty impressive.

Natures Great Events was easily #1 on BBC HD, picking up 137,000 viewers. More than double Antiques Roadshow and Lark Rise to Candleford which tied second with 64,000.

That is very impressive! Does that mean it beats CBBC on BBC1 at times then?

I like the idea of Britain's Got Talent on a Sunday. Last year the live shows started on the Monday after the final Saturday audition show, so if it the auditions were shown on a Sunday they could get straight into the live shows the following day. They could also squeeze in an extra live show bringing it to six semi finals and the final to make it finish on the Sunday.

Very impressive although I don't think it's too surprising. Miley Cyrus is making a name for herself over here and Disney have been plastering ads for the new series of Hannah Montana all over the place. It must be (inexplicably) their most popular show.

Does leave Saturday nights bereft of a ratings puller though. Primeval would do well enough but what else would they have?

I still think Corrie will move back to Sunday nights eventually. Surely Mr Fincham knows that was a ridiculous move?

Broadcast said the first Hannah Montana in the new series got over 500,000 in that slot.

The Disney Channel was the top children's channel last year, which is really impressive for a pay tv channel, although it is no longer in the top sky package.

Probably. Wasn't Blue Peter reportedly drawing less than 100,000 viewers at some points recently?

I wonder how Disney Channel would do if they made a UK show? Premieres of things like High School Musical have got more than 1 million viewers and many more across numerous repeats.

The Disney Channel in the US is a big money maker and topped the USA Network last week in the cable ratings. They've created a whole bunch of teenage starlets that can be used in more than one show and release music and other merchandise (Miley Cyrus, Vanessa Hudgens, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez etc.). The potential for alternative revenue from kids TV shows is massive compared to average programming.


It's already going to finish on Sunday because the Champions League final will take BGT off air on the Wednesday.

I suppose BGT on a Sunday would improve the ITV all day share. But unless BGT actually increases its figures, it's not worthwhile. ITV just care about their total commercial impacts (or whatever they are called), not their individual daily shares. And once it has moved, we'll all be asking "what can ITV do to save their Saturday schedule".

X Factor starts in August, which is pretty early. One option there would be to start it 3 weeks later and run the 6 auditions shows over 3 weeks, one on Saturday and one on Sunday. It would make it feel like a shorter series, put more of a gap between BGT and XF and also keep XF out of the summer months.

They have made a few things.

They did a Hannah Montana Superfan quiz with Barney from CBBC and they did a UK remake of As the Bell Rings,which they have done all over the world.

They've not tried anything big though.

I guess with guaranteed money coming in from Sky for 5 years they dont really have to push the boat out too much as the moment.

I believe that Disney Channel doesn't have ads in the US and relies on the subscriber fees although its sister channel Disney XD does have ads. The success of shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly Place and Suite Life as well as TV movies like HSM and Camp Rock has lead to its rival Nickelodeon copying the formula with the very successful iCarly which beats the broadcasts when it is shown on Saturdays.

It is so colourful, good humoured, entertaining, different I can't understand why more viewers don't watch it. Perhaps they feel safer with the dull, predictable cop shows based in the UK?

Or it was dragged down by the rubbish ratings for the Antiques Roadshow. Perhaps No1LDA will do better next week as AR is a new episode and so should also do better than this week, although the evil BBC will need to highlight this is a new episode, now that the press have caught on to them sticking repeats on in the middle of the series.

Agreed. It looks much better than a lot of the crap that ITV have churned out on some of their recent Tuesdays and Thursdays. Oh, I do wonder what the schedulers at ITV are doing sometimes .


Lewis' figure for last night is lower than I expected, even taking into account that it was not shown in Scotland. I thought it would have been able to get around 7-8m viewers, considering it had a massive inheritance and has regulaly pulled in 7.5m+ figures in the past couple of years. It's still a good rating, though. I disagree with D.M.N.- I think it'll keep those kind of ratings, perhaps even rise next week as it moves into a more viewer-friendly 8-10pm slot.


Yeah, a top quality show getting a top quality rating for BBC2 - nice to see .


Quite a poor rating for Chris Moyles. There weren't exactly many shows on TV at that time last night which would have dragged away their target younger demo audience. Back to the radio for Chris I think !


Poor day for BBC1. Has ITV1 even dropped that low in the All-Hours shares this year? The few hours of repeats at primetime was a no-go area for many viewers, along with obviously very tough opposition from ITV1.


Yeah, quite a strong rating for DOI, although I did think it would rate above the 11m threshold. But I didn't think it would beat last year's finale rating of 11.7m because this year's was so predictable, with that little cretin Ray Quinn practically guaranteed to win it since week 1 .


I think whoever replaced Angus would have got criticised because there are hardly any good, talented presenters around these days unfortunately .


Thanks. That's the slot I thought was the most likely for the Bill's new time. It's a slot that all of the terrestrial channels have sturggled in recent months, so perhaps ITV can get some domination back for that hour.

ITV1 had an All-Day Share of 13.8% on Saturday 7th February, 2009. By BBC One's standards though, that is a poor share.

In relation to last nights ratings (never commented on it earlier), although The Secret Millionaire is up on the slot average its really poor for that show. In the summer it was regularly topping 4m, and now its barely on to 3m. Maybe its the new slot or the competition of DOI but if it continues to perform at that level then its best to move it back if there is a new series.

To those who predict Lewis's ratings could rise next week....

May I draw your attention to the experiences of Outnmbered last Autumn, where, despite rave reviews, it performed quite poorly in the ratings until the penultimate programme which followed on after the final of Strictly and despite its late, delayed start boosted ratings to 6.38m overnights (6.87m consolidated).

However, one week later without its reality show final lead-in, the figures dropped back to 4.57m (although that is still its second highest audience to date).

I say Lewis will fall back without a DoI lead-in. I predicted 8.4m for last night in the ratings prediction game, so considering the DoI lead in, and the collapse of No1LDA's ratings, ITV1 may be slightly disappointed with 6.7m.

The Secret Millionaire should have stayed in its Tuesday 9pm slot. I don't think it suits Sunday nights which is why it has probably dropped in viewers and I think it has returned for a brand new series way too soon.

Lewis is quite different from Outnumbered because it's proven to be a ratings super-hit previously (ITV's top drama for 3 years in a row), whereas Outnumbered hadn't. So, Lewis does have a large potentital audience to draw from that Outnumbered didn't.

Looking at last year's Sunday schedules closely, I see that Lewis was up against the Last Enemy, which only brought in low 2m's for BBC1. That's a factor why it rated so succesfully last year. About a 1m drop from last year, despite tougher competition from BBC One and no showing in Scotland, is not bad.

It may well perform better with a more viewer-friendly slot though. Watching a drama until 11pm, after two hours of skating, is a big ask on a Sunday night. We'll see if it does any better next week - and we still shouldn't forget the STV factor as well.

All the more reason why Lewis should have got 8m on the back of a DoI final.

It's like Kevin Whately's other series Auf Wiedersehen, Pet which when revived by the BBC started with a massive 12m viewers, but then fell back sharply, ending with quite poor figures. That was because the revival was pretty run-of-the-mill and not a special treat as it was in its ITV days.

So I say Lewis is becoming a run-of-the-mill crime drama, albeit one with superior production values, and whilst I'm still watching it and enjoying it, the ratings suggest it's losing viewers round the edges cos they have so many other channels to choose from and they don't regard Lewis as unmissable drama.

I think it's harder to create "unmissable dramas" these days. For terrestrial channels to get the big figures of 8 million + they need to make all their programmes more "event TV". They've done this successfully with the X Factor and Britain's Got Talent, but they've got to create this with their drama output now too.

BGT to end on a Sunday night...i don't like that idea at all!

Would be better starting the live shows on the Sunday before, and thereby run as; Sun, Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri & Sat. Damn that CL messing around with the BGT schedule. Maybe a day break could affect the viewing figures after last years impressive run of 10.9m, 8.8m, 9.3m, 9.7m, 11.4m and then 11.0m and 13.1m for the Final & Final Result.

Oh dear. Did it not show in Scotland or something?

I imagine ITV bosses will be a bit disappointed with that.

So am I - I had it down for 10.9m in the Ratings Prediction Game, so missed out on 10 points by 0.1m.

LOL at the fact it peaked 20 mins before the end and then dropped off as it reached the climax. Did people get fed up of waiting and tune in to the Roadshow repeat instead for some excitement?


I'd be surprised if it does. The 9pm slot hasn't stopped it getting 10-11m before now.


Not really that big a factor. Look at those STV ratings posted earlier on the thread - if STV's biggest audiences of the year are only 0.5m-0.6m, then if we said Lewis would have got 0.4m, and Scotland at the Movies got 0.1m for sake of argument, then you're looking at 6.8m instead of 7.1m. The difference may even have been less stark than that; it could even have boosted Lewis's overnight figures.