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Chloe using it? Or geuninely THAT upset?
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Whedonite
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“arghhh another RAPE comparison.

btw, against her will suggests that she stated her will in advance.

saying NO, STOP is stating your will and he DID. The way people are carrying on its like he didnt take no for an answer OR did it after she said no.”

Once again, I'm not comparing what he did to rape. Of course I'm not. I'm comparing attitudes. If being a page 3 model means being exposed without consent is fine, why would a porn star get upset over rape? Would a boxer be bothered if people punched them in the street? Attitudes here suggest that doing something for a living means you're open for business 24/7, so it shouldn't be a biggie.

I'm not saying he didn't take no for an answer. I'm saying that he didn't have her consent. That's a fact. You don't need to tell someone in advance not to expose you. Or do you walk down the street saying "please don't expose me" repeatedly just in case?
JVS
12-01-2015
Is it too late to retroactively evict Danica for twisting The Situation's nipples?
Diabolus
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“Once again, I'm not comparing what he did to rape. Of course I'm not. I'm comparing attitudes. If being a page 3 model means being exposed without consent is fine, why would a porn star get upset over rape? Would a boxer be bothered if people punched them in the street? Attitudes here suggest that doing something for a living means you're open for business 24/7, so it shouldn't be a biggie.

I'm not saying he didn't take no for an answer. I'm saying that he didn't have her consent. That's a fact. You don't need to tell someone in advance not to expose you. Or do you walk down the street saying "please don't expose me" repeatedly just in case?”

Great points, Well made.

I am actually astounded that this stuff needs explaining.
AA2009
12-01-2015
Happy that Chloe is no longer in danger of being evicted tomorrow.
Veri
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“arghhh another RAPE comparison.

btw, against her will suggests that she stated her will in advance.

saying NO, STOP is stating your will and he DID. The way people are carrying on its like he didnt take no for an answer OR did it after she said no.”

Yes, either that or that he continued after she resisted or said to stop. (None of which happened.)
Noush
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I didn't say you condoned sexual assault

A girl like Chloe? I'm not seeing the connection you're trying to jake. You seem to think that Chloe being upset was fake just because she poses naked for a living. Why? Posing naked automatically ensures never being upset at someone exposing you against your will? Do porn stars or prostitutes not react badly to rape?

Some people's attitudes towards page 3 girls here are so damn depressing.”

If I try to explain myself to you any more I fear I'm just going to get caught up in further accusations or opinions of me, suffice it to say, in MY opinion, I just don't believe "a girl like Chloe" would get that upset over it. It's a figure of speech just like the "if she smokes she pokes" jibe. Call it a sixth sense!

Thank you for not saying I condone sexual assault and of course I'd expect porn stars to react badly to rape. I'm just saying that to be successful in the dog eat dog world of modelling you gotta be hard and streetwise and a hard and streetwise person would not have blubbed like that. For example can you imagined ne what Michelle would have done to him if he tried that with her??? Right!
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