TBF Denice pulled down the PJ's as a laugh, Hazel and Thingy were flirting and Jeremy seemed to do what he done as a drunken come on. All 3 were wrong and none should've been evicted but there is a difference.

And the fact that you are so sure that she would, purely based on the fact that she posed topless and appeared on a reality TV show, means that you must be an emotionally stunted misogynist who judges women harshly according to sexist, stereotypical assumptions you have made based on their history.

I know which I'd rather be, and which would be more accepted in intelligent, polite society (hint: it's not you).

I think all three could have been resolved by asking the 'victim' if anything could be resolved given it's BB Vatican City.

You've said things like this about 4 times now but still haven't offered anything to back up your claims, probably because you are happy with all 3 outcomes and are choosing not to see the clear double standards


Non of what you said justifies the outcomes of the 3 situations being different. All 3 exposed someone without their permission but only Jeremy gets kicked out and the 2 women just got a warning


Nice name calling, buzzwords and attempts at shaming you've got there, you should try to relax that militant feminist stereotype a bit

You clearly have no idea how reality shows like Ex on the Beach work, or the content of such shows, or the type of people those shows attract. Those shows are about drinking, sex and drama, they aren't going to cast good Christian girls who are into family values and quiet reading. Apparently in your militant feminist opinion she is female and therefore an innocent angel incapable of such things as manipulation

The first two involved exposing underwear, Jeremy exposed/groped a naked tit.

Just to throw this in the mix, we have previously had one of Jedward (notionally male) tugging down Amy Childs's bikini bottoms and not getting thrown out. You could argue that was more serious as very few people wear clothes under their bikinis.

The main difference in this case imo is that Jeremy is a mess. With most people if you give them a bollocking for something they won't do it again any time soon, but he's rather more of a loose cannon.

Who said I think reality tv shows consist of 'good Christian girls who are into family values and quiet reading'?! Who said I think all women are innocent angels 'incapable of such things as manipulation'?

You're missing the point and inferring incorrect information into my post, I expect deliberately.

The percieved level with which Chloe reacted shouldn't be taken as backup for your opinion.
To not only judge her for her level of reaction (which is a ridiculous thing in itself to do to any human being because everyone reacts to shock and fear differently), but to draw your own conclusions based on a sexist and stereotypical opinion about her profession/past, is unfair.

The fact that you're referring to me as a 'militant feminist stereotype' says it all really.

Exactly this. It was the perfect excuse to get rid knowing they'd made a major mistake allowing him in the house in the first place.

i really don't see how her doing topless shoots is an excuse to have someone expose her breast against her will, are you trying to tell me that any guy walking down the street should be allowed without permission to pull down the top of any girl on the street if she's known to have posed topless for a magazine, website or paper?

Indeed. How is what you do for a living equated with the way you live your life outside of your job. Does any actor who plays Hannibal Lector go around eating people?

Otherwise I agree with others that Jeremy should never have been in the house in the first place, BB were probably looking for a "reason" to get him out.

So a woman shouldn't emotional destraught after rape because sometimes she'll choose to have sex?

No one exactly knew what happened in the toilet.......

Exactly. Some people just dont get this.

But were they exposed...........sadly Jeremy is such a damaged person that he gave so many different versions of what happened......that in fact he does not know what happened himself.

Who was raped?

Do some people honestly think that because she chooses to pose topless, she should be fine with someone exposing her? Seriously?

Jfc. I'd love to see that excuse in the courtroom. "She does it for a living, so why does she care if I pull away her robe without her permission?".

I can't believe choice is a hard concept for people to grasp. It's so depressing.

All of them should have been removed.

All violated another's personal space.

Are we forgetting that they are on television and therefore not just a prank or a laugh.
Exposing someone's privates to the entire nation isn't a joke or a laugh.

Perverts shouldn't be given screen time and yes I consider all perverts.
I've managed to live my whole life without trying to pull anyone's pants down.
All of my friends have also managed this as well. Even the British ones. Fancy that.

Exactly why I give up on BB. They pick and choose and manipulate. As you said, the Shannon twins also complained and were very upset with the whole incident but yet Denise went on to win.

I couldn't care less about this latest 'incident' because I realty don't like how BB handle these situations. I feel more sorry for Jeremy than anyone though.

By your reasoning any prostitute that is raped should just put up and shut up because they do it for a living anyway.

I swear some of the people on the this forum are still living in the dark ages.

With all due respect she has no control over who is seeing her breasts when she exposes them in a magazine. If she actually thinks that then she is deluding herself. It could be a young man or an old man. She may be able to somehow compartmentalize it, but she is not controlling it.

I'm not trying to start a debate with you because I do understand what you're saying - I just wanted to make that statement...I think she, and a lot of other young women, are so easily separating themselves from the final audience and I doubt how healthy that is for them.

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Well said.

He's a giant tit!

I'd be terrified too if I were him.

I don't think it's that different. Supposing Jeremy and Chloe had been dancing around and he pulled her pants down (playfully) the way Denise did to the Shannon twin, how would that be received?