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Disgusted with this forum's reaction to Jeremy
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bleelee
11-01-2015
People still blaming chloe??? ffs.

Since when does somebody's job or the way they dress mean they are fair game to be clawed at?

For the people who are defending Jeremy if your daughter/wife/mother/girlfriend walked past me in a supermarket with a low cut top on would that give me the right to walk up to her and try and expose her tit? Cause I'll tell you what if somebody tried to do that to my wife regardless of how she was dressed id punch his effing lights out.

What's happening here is there is a pretty young girl on a reality tv show and people have taken an instant dislike to her. Its pathetic

Jeremy was the person in the wrong - big brother were right to remove him. I just hope they offer to get him help cause he obviously needs it.
Sammmymack
11-01-2015
Glad he's gone. He has a lot to learn if he thinks that a valid excuse is 'I thought she had a swimming costume on' as if that would have been acceptable!
kaylz23
11-01-2015
I've just watched this episode and I feel sorry for Jeremy and I'm a women. I'm not saying what he done was right, it wasn't but I think Chloe over reacted and I think it was all blew out of proportion and since we didn't see it, I can only say that I believe it wasn't in a groping type of way and most probably quite innocent and daft.

Chloe said no Jeremy that's not cool, walked out and she should have just stayed calm and explained what happened, but the crying and then Cami's over reaction trying to tell everyone in the house, inc Perez who already doesn't feel 'safe' in the house just blew it all up more.


I really don't get why anyone would be naked in a house of strangers under a robe either, what if the robe fell open and she exposed her self to everyone...

Callum and Michelle are my favs so far
terry45
11-01-2015
Channel 5 have removed him for a reason., and if certain people fail to understand the reason, then that is their problem.
bleelee
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by kaylz23:
“I've just watched this episode and I feel sorry for Jeremy and I'm a women. I'm not saying what he done was right, it wasn't but I think Chloe over reacted and I think it was all blew out of proportion and since we didn't see it, I can only say that I believe it wasn't in a groping type of way and most probably quite innocent and daft.

Chloe said no Jeremy that's not cool, walked out and she should have just stayed calm and explained what happened, but the crying and then Cami's over reaction trying to tell everyone in the house, inc Perez who already doesn't feel 'safe' in the house just blew it all up more.

I don't agree that because she has done page3 or walks around in a bikini she deserves a bloke groping her but Jeremy did say he miss took her leaning over him in the bathroom as a bit flirty and miss-read the signs.

I really don't get why anyone would be naked in a house of strangers under a robe anyway, what if the robe fell open and she exposed her self to everyone...

Callum and Michelle are my favs so far”

So you were a low cut top and I can walk up to you and try a grab a look at ypur tit? You would find this acceptable? You wouldn't get upset by it? Bare in mind I know you as much as Jeremy knows chloe?

In relation to walking about with just a robe on - what if she was about to go to the bathroom to get ready for bed seen Jeremy needed help and decided that was more important than getting changed?



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asyousay
11-01-2015
I am a woman and I felt bad for Jeremy as he was in the wrong but she acted like she had been raped . A complete over reaction on her part .
Maria_Robinson
11-01-2015
Here we have the "Shock Horror" Brigade. Jeremy was wrong but we should get things into perspecctive here - the whole situaton was over reacted with hysterics. Chloe is a very pretty girl albeit a bit dull and not very intelligent with a stunning figure - surely resisting men's advances must be par for the course for someone like her. As someone else said Jeremy was already in a dark place, I just hope this over egged little episdoe doesnt result in him being found dead somewhere or it will be the end of BB.
madiain28
11-01-2015
I am repeating my post only because I don't know any other way to respond in a polite non abusive way to some posters who are not only excusing but also justifying Jeremy's behaviour. What really concerns me is the perception that as she had a bathrobe on people keep commenting she was naked and therefor fair game. I'm also not sure how people think a young 21 year old girl most probably 8 stone should react when a man 13 years her senior and twice her size should react to him attempting to remove her clothing. I actually really shocked about some of the posts and find it really worrying that so many people are justifying his Jeremy's actions. Chloe did not go into the bathroom on her own with him Cami was also in the bathroom but she was too busy wanting to gossip about Jeremy vomiting she left. You could clearly see that Chloe was sitting on the floor opposite side of the toilet to Jeremy. You could clearly hear the conversation which in no way was flirtatious. Yes Chloe had a dressing gown on without a bra underneath as she was getting ready for bed when the incident occurred I don't think at any point she said that she did not have knickers on. Which is completely irrelevant as she had a dressing gown on which was neither short or revealing. Jeremy was completely in the wrong and overstepped the mark. There was no misreading the signals but he knew what he had done was wrong. The fact when he came out of the bathroom when asked by Callum why Chloe was upset he knew exactly what he had done wrong and why she was upset. He also immediatly tried to justify himself by saying he was pissed and removed her robe and he actually said he might of accidentally touched her breast. From his own account and the way he attempted to joke with Callum about it showed he knew what he did was wrong.
I actually think Chloe handled herself well she immediatly left the bathroom and initially tried to leave the room without any fuss. It was the other housemates particularly Cami who turned it into a scene running about telling everyone not helped by Perez screaming he felt unsafe. You could clearly see Chloe was shocked and her reaction was one of shock rather than hysteria which the other housemates created. Chloe even in the diary room wasn't hysterical or over exaggerated the incident but she was obviously shaken by what had happened.
Jeremy is a recovering alcoholic who as soon as entering the house began drinking. His behaviour has been erratic over the past few days and he obviously has a lot going on in his life. Given the circumstances that he is a recovering alcoholic and has immediatly started drinking I think BB really had no choice but to remove him for his own sake. It appears that the people who are upset that he was removed are only upset because they wanted to see him have a complete breakdown for entertainment value. It was clear from the day he entered that all the housemates had concerns about his erratic behaviour and state of mind. The fact that he misread a situation where he was vomiting in a toilet and interpreted it as a come on says quite a lot about his current mental state.
Deeferone
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by kaylz23:
“I've just watched this episode and I feel sorry for Jeremy and I'm a women. I'm not saying what he done was right, it wasn't but I think Chloe over reacted and I think it was all blew out of proportion and since we didn't see it, I can only say that I believe it wasn't in a groping type of way and most probably quite innocent and daft.

Chloe said no Jeremy that's not cool, walked out and she should have just stayed calm and explained what happened, but the crying and then Cami's over reaction trying to tell everyone in the house, inc Perez who already doesn't feel 'safe' in the house just blew it all up more.


I really don't get why anyone would be naked in a house of strangers under a robe either, what if the robe fell open and she exposed her self to everyone...

Callum and Michelle are my favs so far”

I am unsure why posters need to announce their gender. Surely people would feel the same if Chloe had touched Jeremy inappropriately. Chloe left the bathroom and went straight to the stairs to the diary room, she was cut off at the pass and it appeared others especially Perez that didn't allow a calm conversation about appropriate behaviour.
Conehead
11-01-2015
I am a captain in the PC Brigade, and I think there should be more of this sort of thing.
Whedonite
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by jacquelineanne:
“Yes she is so traumatised, but give it a day and she will be back to prancing around half naked to tease the men in there.”

Originally Posted by di60:
“and showing how she can flex those tits”

So not only is a woman judged by her actions before being inappropriately touched by a man, she's judged by her actions the day after too. I guess if she doesn't cower away in her room and start wearing 5 layers, she must not care that she was exposed against her will?
Taintedmeat
11-01-2015
She has ruined this cbb now they should not have put her in there as she not even a real celebrity.

Hopefully this will make her reconsider getting her boobs out for lads mags
Blondie X
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“So not only is a woman judged by her actions before being inappropriately touched by a man, she's judged by her actions the day after too. I guess if she doesn't cower away in her room and start wearing 5 layers, she must not care that she was exposed against her will?”

Seems that way doesn't it? Chloe wearing anything less than a burqa for the next week will probably be offered as proof by some that she deserved everything she got.
Whedonite
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Seems that way doesn't it? Chloe wearing anything less than a burqa for the next week will probably be offered as proof by some that she deserved everything she got.”

She better be wearing a robe over that burka, just for extra coverage.

Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“She has ruined this cbb now they should not have put her in there as she not even a real celebrity.

Hopefully this will make her reconsider getting her boobs out for lads mags”

Ugh jfc.

I just can't with this place. It's getting worse. I feel like taking a very hot shower to wash away the ugh, but I don't want to be a naked woman in the world of this sort of victim blaming.

Why are you even hopeful that she doesn't do page 3? What concern is it of yours?
Addisonian
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by madiain28:
“I am repeating my post only because I don't know any other way to respond in a polite non abusive way to some posters who are not only excusing but also justifying Jeremy's behaviour......

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Your original post has been quoted various times as many people are in agreement with you - for all to see.
There's really no need to post it again.
LurkingGood
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by madiain28:
“I am repeating my post only because I don't know any other way to respond in a polite non abusive way to some posters who are not only excusing but also justifying Jeremy's behaviour. What really concerns me is the perception that as she had a bathrobe on people keep commenting she was naked and therefor fair game. I'm also not sure how people think a young 21 year old girl most probably 8 stone should react when a man 13 years her senior and twice her size should react to him attempting to remove her clothing. I actually really shocked about some of the posts and find it really worrying that so many people are justifying his Jeremy's actions. Chloe did not go into the bathroom on her own with him Cami was also in the bathroom but she was too busy wanting to gossip about Jeremy vomiting she left. You could clearly see that Chloe was sitting on the floor opposite side of the toilet to Jeremy. You could clearly hear the conversation which in no way was flirtatious. Yes Chloe had a dressing gown on without a bra underneath as she was getting ready for bed when the incident occurred I don't think at any point she said that she did not have knickers on. Which is completely irrelevant as she had a dressing gown on which was neither short or revealing. Jeremy was completely in the wrong and overstepped the mark. There was no misreading the signals but he knew what he had done was wrong. The fact when he came out of the bathroom when asked by Callum why Chloe was upset he knew exactly what he had done wrong and why she was upset. He also immediatly tried to justify himself by saying he was pissed and removed her robe and he actually said he might of accidentally touched her breast. From his own account and the way he attempted to joke with Callum about it showed he knew what he did was wrong.
I actually think Chloe handled herself well she immediatly left the bathroom and initially tried to leave the room without any fuss. It was the other housemates particularly Cami who turned it into a scene running about telling everyone not helped by Perez screaming he felt unsafe. You could clearly see Chloe was shocked and her reaction was one of shock rather than hysteria which the other housemates created. Chloe even in the diary room wasn't hysterical or over exaggerated the incident but she was obviously shaken by what had happened.
Jeremy is a recovering alcoholic who as soon as entering the house began drinking. His behaviour has been erratic over the past few days and he obviously has a lot going on in his life. Given the circumstances that he is a recovering alcoholic and has immediatly started drinking I think BB really had no choice but to remove him for his own sake. It appears that the people who are upset that he was removed are only upset because they wanted to see him have a complete breakdown for entertainment value. It was clear from the day he entered that all the housemates had concerns about his erratic behaviour and state of mind. The fact that he misread a situation where he was vomiting in a toilet and interpreted it as a come on says quite a lot about his current mental state.”

Nobody has said she was fair game because she was naked underneath her robe. I stopped reading after that lie so can only presume the rest of your post is drivel. He was out of order but much worse has gone unpunished in BB over the years.
Deeferone
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“She has ruined this cbb now they should not have put her in there as she not even a real celebrity.

Hopefully this will make her reconsider getting her boobs out for lads mags”

So in general you have no respect or faith in the male population. You feel if a glimmer of a breast is shown, men will not be able to control their poor wee self's and have to have a quick feel. Well I disagree the men I know can all act appropriately. This was one man that did not have boundaries and had his own set of rules that are not acceptable.
Taintedmeat
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“She better be wearing a robe over that burka, just for extra coverage.



Ugh jfc.

I just can't with this place. It's getting worse. I feel like taking a very hot shower to wash away the ugh, but I don't want to be a naked woman in the world of this sort of victim blaming.

Why are you even hopeful that she doesn't do page 3? What concern is it of yours?”

I don't think any woman should do page 3 it's disgusting and encourages exportation In a way she was selling herself
Sara Webb
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by achro:
“It's not just here. The Facebook post is full of people saying she deserved it.”

How utterly repulsive.
Blondie X
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“So in general you have no respect or faith in the male population. You feel if a glimmer of a breast is shown, men will not be able to control their poor wee self's and have to have a quick feel. Well I disagree the men I know can all act appropriately. This was one man that did not have boundaries and had his own set of rules that are not acceptable.”

Seems like its about 1973 reading this forum this morning. Those poor ickle men have no self control and women have only themselves to blame if they show more than a glimpse of ankle. And it's ok to use racist and sexist language if you're old, no matter who you're speaking to apparently.
kaylz23
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by bleelee:
“So you were a low cut top and I can walk up to you and try a grab a look at ypur tit? You would find this acceptable? You wouldn't get upset by it? Bare in mind I know you as much as Jeremy knows chloe?

In relation to walking about with just a robe on - what if she was about to go to the bathroom to get ready for bed seen Jeremy needed help and decided that was more important than getting changed?



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Ok so you clearly haven't read my post...I said I wasn't saying what Jeremy did was right because it wasn't but I do believe it was all blown out of proportion. It's not like he walked up to when she's been wearing her bikini around the house and grabbed a look at her tit which is basically what you are asking if I would be p1ssed off if I guy done this to me, off course I would and he'd get a good slap across the face.

In this situation they were in the bathroom, who knows what was said or how long they were in there due to editing, he repeatedly told people when he come out he didn't grope her but touched her robe and he even said in the bathroom he was shocked she was naked.

And yes I do find it very strange that a women would walk around the house in a robe with no clothes on. Why they all had to rush to Jeremy and fuss over him anyway is beyond me, the guy was being sick, give him some space. Everyone gets involved in each other's business in the house which in turn causes drama...

I just don't think he seems like a bad guy...
Sara Webb
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Disgusting, but not really surprising to be honest. Victim blaming is still endemic, especially when the victim is a woman. They always "asked for it" in some way or an other.”

Spot on, Vodka. It really is revolting.
kaylz23
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“I am unsure why posters need to announce their gender. Surely people would feel the same if Chloe had touched Jeremy inappropriately. Chloe left the bathroom and went straight to the stairs to the diary room, she was cut off at the pass and it appeared others especially Perez that didn't allow a calm conversation about appropriate behaviour.”

I wanted to announce my gender to explain as a women how I felt about the situation. I do think if others weren't involved maybe it could have been handled differently. Maybe Jeremy could have apologised the next day, whether Chloe accepted that apology would be her choice but Cami and Perez added fuel to the fire, they are just way over the top imo
bleelee
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by madiain28:
“I am repeating my post only because I don't know any other way to respond in a polite non abusive way to some posters who are not only excusing but also justifying Jeremy's behaviour. What really concerns me is the perception that as she had a bathrobe on people keep commenting she was naked and therefor fair game. I'm also not sure how people think a young 21 year old girl most probably 8 stone should react when a man 13 years her senior and twice her size should react to him attempting to remove her clothing. I actually really shocked about some of the posts and find it really worrying that so many people are justifying his Jeremy's actions. Chloe did not go into the bathroom on her own with him Cami was also in the bathroom but she was too busy wanting to gossip about Jeremy vomiting she left. You could clearly see that Chloe was sitting on the floor opposite side of the toilet to Jeremy. You could clearly hear the conversation which in no way was flirtatious. Yes Chloe had a dressing gown on without a bra underneath as she was getting ready for bed when the incident occurred I don't think at any point she said that she did not have knickers on. Which is completely irrelevant as she had a dressing gown on which was neither short or revealing. Jeremy was completely in the wrong and overstepped the mark. There was no misreading the signals but he knew what he had done was wrong. The fact when he came out of the bathroom when asked by Callum why Chloe was upset he knew exactly what he had done wrong and why she was upset. He also immediatly tried to justify himself by saying he was pissed and removed her robe and he actually said he might of accidentally touched her breast. From his own account and the way he attempted to joke with Callum about it showed he knew what he did was wrong.
I actually think Chloe handled herself well she immediatly left the bathroom and initially tried to leave the room without any fuss. It was the other housemates particularly Cami who turned it into a scene running about telling everyone not helped by Perez screaming he felt unsafe. You could clearly see Chloe was shocked and her reaction was one of shock rather than hysteria which the other housemates created. Chloe even in the diary room wasn't hysterical or over exaggerated the incident but she was obviously shaken by what had happened.
Jeremy is a recovering alcoholic who as soon as entering the house began drinking. His behaviour has been erratic over the past few days and he obviously has a lot going on in his life. Given the circumstances that he is a recovering alcoholic and has immediatly started drinking I think BB really had no choice but to remove him for his own sake. It appears that the people who are upset that he was removed are only upset because they wanted to see him have a complete breakdown for entertainment value. It was clear from the day he entered that all the housemates had concerns about his erratic behaviour and state of mind. The fact that he misread a situation where he was vomiting in a toilet and interpreted it as a come on says quite a lot about his current mental state.”

Excellent post. Absolutely spot on.
Deeferone
11-01-2015
Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“I don't think any woman should do page 3 it's disgusting and encourages exportation In a way she was selling herself”

Your entitled to your opinion. So if he had felt the breast of say an accountants breast this would not be acceptable. This young girl who may or may not pose for magazines was at the time sat on a bathroom floor fully covered in a long dressing gown passing toilet roll and being supportive to a man who was vomiting into a toilet. And all you remember of it is she poses for lads mags,sad,
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