He was saying he didn't want either girl in there that he was alright but neither one listened and they insisted going in. In general, I see a lot of double standards on this kind of thing, Women often are not backward in coming forward when they like someone and do all sorts of things to make it obvious they like someone and think "why would they complain" but when men do it, then some women react like Chloe and go into how dare you mode. I see that as a double standard.

On your claim that it was sexual assualt, there was no cameras in there so you have no proof that he did touch her. I believed what he said that he moved part of her robe but didn't grab her breast. I mean, look at cami Li or whatever her name was. She falsely claimed that Ken had called her a whore shen he called her a Hindu and then somehting else!

Its what I think she did, not a suggestion at all. Also funny that she makes the claim in the one place there isn't a camera isn't it? Even more reason why BB was wrong to evict him. They chose to believe her version of events over his.

I don't condone Jeremy's behaviour from anyone. And it's a bit different from making itobvious you like someone and going straight into disrobing someone.


Believe it or not but most acts of sexual assault are not on camera. And there is proof in that both he and she recounted the same events. Jeremy admitted to what he did. I don't think he grabbed her breast either but he did touch her in an inappropriate way by attempting to remove clothing to look at her breasts. Which does fall under the law of sexual assault

And semantics on the Cami Lee issue. Slut and whore are fairly interchangeable. And lets face it Ken has said some nasty nasty sexist and racist things BESIDES that too.

I've had women put their hands on me when making it obvious they like me and I've seen women go beyond what they do to me with other men and do other "raunchy" things to show they like someone.

What Jeremy did was make a pass and Chloe completely over reacted as did BB. I really do suspect she was waiting to get a man into trouble like that. Look at the way she deliberately tried to ressurect an argument between Cami Li and Calum the other day too about the trainer and the way she was laughing when it worked!

On Ken with Cami Li, it was obvious he was paying her a compliment expressed in a slightly risque way. On what he said to Alexander, that was out of order for sure but even then, it could be because he wants to be evicted first. Ken's being a bit stupid though as if he is evicted by BB he might not get his appearance fee money.

Good post Patsy

He shouldn't have done what he did. But I don't think Jeremy is in any shape or form some kind of sexual predator.

He regrets very much what he did, and I believe that he means that. It was a moment of madness in his drunken state that unfortunately led to what he did.

He's not a bad person. I hope he gets the help that he so desperately needs.

I don't condone what those women you described did too. Two wrongs don'#t make a right.

What Jeremy did was touch someone in an highly inappropriate manner in order to ogle therm. I have to admit I think Chloe did over-reacted a bit but as I've said it before people react differently and it shouldn't have that much bearing on the actual event that happened.
I didn't see the bit about Cami Lee and Calum but again I say two wrongs don't make a right.

From Ken that wasn't a compliment. He had been saying things to offend the women all day. It was just another in a list of offensive wording. And couldn't care less if Ken wanted to be evicted you don't say nasty racist scummy things like that EVER!

I am wondering if Chloe might be evicted on Tuesday because of the support Jeremy seems to have

I'd recommend trying to find that bit online or on catch up when Chloe stirred it up between Cami Lee and Callum. Cami Lee was in bed or about to get in bed with Callum and one of the other house mates had just predicted somewhere that they thought those 2 would fight over Callum and Chloe made out that Cami had been slating Callum's trainer and was obviously loving it that she got Callum to react badly and made Cammi Lee lose her chance in getting close to Callum. It was vindictive and gave a way a fair bit about what Chloe is prepared to do imo.

She even said in the diary room about Jeremy in the diary room that she doesn't want it to look like the she deliberatly set out to get him evicted so even she is aware that some people might think that is what she did.

As for Ken and the racist comments, I was "talking" to the TV at the time speaking against him as he made those comments. I was very dissapointed with Ken. I loved Reg Holdsworth in Corrie, for me he was one of the best characters ever in a soap and definetely one of the funniest. I think he would have had a good chance of going far if he had gone into character as Reg again.

I agree with what Jeremy did was totally wtong and he should have been warned not ejected. However for his own well being he is better out of that environment that he clearly shouldn't have been in the first place.
As for Chloe she had a right to ge annoyed and upset but I do feel she went way over the top and Perez made it worse with his hysterics. I do also think had that been Calum and not Jeremy Chloe would have reacted differently.
After watching the 'incident' I was talking with my kids and my youngest son said Chloe was on a show called 'Ex on the Beach' and her behaviour was totally inappropriate (my words as his choice of word would sit well with Ken) I have to say I was shocked to hear him say that. Especially as his generation seem pretty acceptable to things I find should be on .. ahem .. a certain channel . I am no prude but some of these shows apparently are quite explicit. So as I said for him to call her such a name would make her behaviour really shocking. Before certain fms jump up and down with indignation it is relevent as I have seen many reference other hms past including Jeremy so that is why I have mentioned it.

Last night when Chloe was in the diaryroom I thought she said to big brother that she did not think Jeremy meant to touch her I am not 100% sure though,but if she did say that I thought perhaps she was now backtracking, I am not sure what to think of it all,I will watch it back later on.

She didn't "make a meal of it" at all and frankly I'm disturbed that so many people keep parroting that she did.

she'll probably end up winning the show now

If she wins I hope it's because she deserves to win,we had Denise Welch win mainly on the sympathy vote when she went into the diaryroom crying when the American guy( forget his name) argued with her,a few have won doing the same or got to the final like Coleen Nolen etc,I am not saying Chloe is doing the that well hope not

Pretty young females never tend to do well on shows like this, which is no real fault of their own and whilst I can't remember the exact number of times it has happened, you will often have a young woman voted out first. so you never know.

Would be harsh on Chloe who seems a pretty decent sort all in all.

Totally agree. Some of the comments towards her have been pretty disgraceful. although worryingly not entirely unexpected.

Everyone on there is on the downward slide and attemptng to get themselves back in the public gaze - chloe over egged the whole inicident and then the hysterical chums started squealing and wound it all up beyond belief.

IMHO there was something seriously wrong with Jeremy who should not have been passed as fit to be a member the house.