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Perez telling it like it is to Katie...
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The FBI
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jon_Carke:
“I AGREE!!! TOTALLY!!!

She destroyed the other woman's life. The woman came forward and said how hurt she was and the worst was Katie admitted she didn't even love the man - it was just a challenge. That is vile.”

She did not. If I had an affair with a single woman it would be ME ruining my marriage. No one else
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“If only he stayed calm and even semi sane she would have cracked. Her whole existence, children, marriage, holier than thou attitude is based on adultery. In a field. Personally I don't care. r.”


Obviously you do care, otherwise you wouldn't blow up and say such a vindictive thing.

She ended up marrying the guy who was obviously not happy in his marriage anyway.
Do you know much about his wife at the time? NO
Do you know what she was like as a person? NO
Do you know why he may have wanted to be unfaithful? NO

Now unless you're some weird, semi-psychotic religious type, then sure you realize that married men AND women cheat all the time and on the occasions it ends up becoming a new loving relationship then that ends up being a good thing.

But hey, if you'd rather people sat in horrible, soul destroying relationships, then that's fine.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by linmic:
“I think there may have been more than one married man.”

Oh dear, now we have people making things up.
Valentine
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jon_Carke:
“I AGREE!!! TOTALLY!!!

She destroyed the other woman's life. The woman came forward and said how hurt she was and the worst was Katie admitted she didn't even love the man - it was just a challenge. That is vile.”

So the man involved - a married man who chose to cheat on his wife - doesn't bear the responsibility of destroying his marriage with his own actions?
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Valentine:
“So the man involved - a married man who chose to cheat on his wife - doesn't bear the responsibility of destroying his marriage with his own actions?”


No of course not, it must be the fault of the single woman who tricked him with her evil ways of having sex with him!
Mrstim
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Oh dear, now we have people making things up.”

Nope

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1164879/I-cost-married-lovers-3m-Does-Apprentice-husband-stealer-Katie-Hopkins-REAL-regrets.html
psy7ch
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrstim:
“Nope

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...L-regrets.html”

it seems to be the money side of things she is most regretful about which makes it even worse.

A more recent interview she says she doesnt feel anything for the women or children she has hurt


Deaf to distress, her indifference towards anyone else's feelings makes sense. But I'm confused about how she reconciles her contempt for emotional messiness with a private life so colourful that she once listed "stealing husbands" as her hobby on her CV. Her first husband was just one of a string of married fathers whom Hopkins seduced away from their families, including her second husband, the father of her five-year-old son.

How can someone so impatient with indisciplined self-indulgence justify wreaking havoc in so many lives, in of all things the name of love? "Oh, spare me the oestrogen tears," she groans. "We've all got skeletons in our closets. I couldn't be disingenuous enough to say I'm sorry for those women or children, because lots of us have done things wrong. When you look at the statistics for men and women having affairs, it's huge."


http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...kins-interview

Just in the last few weeks she has described Palestinians as 'rodents' encouraging Israel to bomb them more and described the nurse in critical condition with Ebola as sweaty sock, a play on a derogatory term for Scottish people.

She is absolute horror of a human being and there is no other way of dressing it up.
Desy Boy
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Obviously you do care, otherwise you wouldn't blow up and say such a vindictive thing.

She ended up marrying the guy who was obviously not happy in his marriage anyway.
Do you know much about his wife at the time? NO
Do you know what she was like as a person? NO
Do you know why he may have wanted to be unfaithful? NO

Now unless you're some weird, semi-psychotic religious type, then sure you realize that married men AND women cheat all the time and on the occasions it ends up becoming a new loving relationship then that ends up being a good thing.

But hey, if you'd rather people sat in horrible, soul destroying relationships, then that's fine.”

No, honestly I don't care. I really really don't. I care as much as the last episode of Eastenders that I didn't watch. It simply doesn't permeate my life like that, I can't stress that enough. But to play Devil's advocate I feel that it's arguably a salient point. I just like seeing pompous people being held accountable as it's a general lesson for all of us. Unfortunately Perez Hilton is a pretty sh!tty teacher.
Mrstim
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by psy7ch:
“it seems to be the money side of things she is most regretful about which makes it even worse.

A more recent interview she says she doesnt feel anything for the women or children she has hurt


Deaf to distress, her indifference towards anyone else's feelings makes sense. But I'm confused about how she reconciles her contempt for emotional messiness with a private life so colourful that she once listed "stealing husbands" as her hobby on her CV. Her first husband was just one of a string of married fathers whom Hopkins seduced away from their families, including her second husband, the father of her five-year-old son.

How can someone so impatient with indisciplined self-indulgence justify wreaking havoc in so many lives, in of all things the name of love? "Oh, spare me the oestrogen tears," she groans. "We've all got skeletons in our closets. I couldn't be disingenuous enough to say I'm sorry for those women or children, because lots of us have done things wrong. When you look at the statistics for men and women having affairs, it's huge."


http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...kins-interview

Just in the last few weeks she has described Palestinians as 'rodents' encouraging Israel to bomb them more and described the nurse in critical condition with Ebola as sweaty sock, a play on a derogatory term for Scottish people.

She is absolute horror of a human being and there is no other way of dressing it up.”


She really is, if she had only been with one married man I could perhaps agree with her fans but the fact there has been more than one and she appears to find it normal - I think she sees it all as a game.

Perhaps now she really is in love, 3rd time lucky!
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrstim:
“Nope

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...L-regrets.html”


Ok, so married men have slept with her.

So??
SillyBillyGoat
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Valentine:
“So the man involved - a married man who chose to cheat on his wife - doesn't bear the responsibility of destroying his marriage with his own actions?”

Quite a stretch. I see nobody absolving the man of blame. This is a Katie Hopkins discussion, is it not? Of course the main area of talk with be about her.

I do, however, see people straight-up stating that Katie herself bears no responsibility which is complete and utter rubbish. They both share the blame, regardless of how much Katie wishes to wash her hands clean.

But don't let a bit of rational logic get in the way of the "Saint Katie" / "Victim Katie" agenda.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Nobody says she's a Saint, but people seem to think she shouldn't have a go at anyone else because of bad things she may have done in the past.
How does that work?!
SillyBillyGoat
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Nobody says she's a Saint, but people seem to think she shouldn't have a go at anyone else because of bad things she may have done in the past.
How does that work?!”

No, my issue is she doesn't even acknowledge that she did anything bad, so of course her attempting to seize the moral high ground and act like she cares about "making people cry" is ridiculous to some.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“No, my issue is she doesn't even acknowledge that she did anything bad, so of course her attempting to seize the moral high ground and act like she cares about "making people cry" is ridiculous to some.”


Maybe she does think she didn't do anything bad and does care about people being made to cry, ever thought of that?

I wouldn't feel the slightest bit guilty about sleeping with a married woman, I certainly wouldn't apologize for it to someone like Perez.
rwould
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Ok, so married men have slept with her.

So??”

Because it causes distress. Encourage them to get out of the relationship before they start another one.
linmic
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Oh dear, now we have people making things up.”

Oh dear, I dont think so.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by rwould:
“Because it causes distress. Encourage them to get out of the relationship before they start another one.”


So what do you actually want her to do?
Commit hari-kiri?
Apologize on a daily basis for something she feels she's done nothing wrong with?
Never have an opinion on anything?
SillyBillyGoat
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Maybe she does think she didn't do anything bad and does care about people being made to cry, ever thought of that?

I wouldn't feel the slightest bit guilty about sleeping with a married woman, I certainly wouldn't apologize for it to someone like Perez.”

Well then there you have the source of our conflicing views, utterly different morals.

As for "maybe she does care about people being made to cry", I'll remain highly sceptical on that. To bring up an example I've already mentioned (and there are plenty more too), wouldn't someone be upset to see their seriously ill loved one being joked about on social media? She certainly can't shove the blame of that onto someone else the way she did with her willing involvement with the cheating guy, and the "joke" excuse is a weak excuse for causing upset.

So, no, I don't believe she cares. But, again, we evidently see the world and what classes as decent very differently, and aren't going to agree.
linmic
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by rwould:
“Because it causes distress. Encourage them to get out of the relationship before they start another one.”

Correct. It causes so much heartache and pain, it shatters families, lives and children, as I said in another thread - so much so that some people never get over it.

It takes two to make that mistake so they are both equally guilty imo. If it had happened once you could be forgiven to think she didnt know and had made a mistake, but to do it again twice doesnt make her look good at all. Then, to say she has no remorse for the shattered lives she leaves in her wake is truly remarkable.
Rough Diamond
12-01-2015
Horrible little man it is none of his buisness Katie kept her cool it backfired on him, then what does he do starts crying


rwould
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“So what do you actually want her to do?
Commit hari-kiri?
Apologize on a daily basis for something she feels she's done nothing wrong with?
Never have an opinion on anything?”

If you are going to preach and lecture to others then you have standards you have to uphold. She fails miserably at that. Remember the criticism over children beign named after places?

She is not a nice person and I do not like seeing people make money from not being nice. That is what she does. I would rather she never expressed another opinion again. She makes the world a darker place.
Mrstim
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Ok, so married men have slept with her.

So??”

You said the poster was making things up - I was providing proof that they were not.
linmic
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by rwould:
“If you are going to preach and lecture to others then you have standards you have to uphold. She fails miserably at that. Remember the criticism over children beign named after places?

She is not a nice person and I do not like seeing people make money from not being nice. That is what she does. I would rather she never expressed another opinion again. She makes the world a darker place.”

Wow. Well put. I agree with you totally.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrstim:
“You said the poster was making things up - I was providing proof that they were not.”


Yeah I thought I addressed that, I didn't know she had slept with more married man, but then I said I didn't care anyway because in my view she's done nothing wrong even if she'd slept with twenty married men.
Matt_Maher
12-01-2015
Originally Posted by rwould:
“If you are going to preach and lecture to others then you have standards you have to uphold. She fails miserably at that. Remember the criticism over children beign named after places?

She is not a nice person and I do not like seeing people make money from not being nice. That is what she does. I would rather she never expressed another opinion again. She makes the world a darker place.”



Unfortunately the world isn't how you would like it to be and in this country we are allowed to speak our opinions and we won't stop speaking them just because a few people can't handle the fact that they disagree with them.

The thing about kids names was funny because she's sort of right.
If a kid is called Chardonnay, you know their parents are going to be super rough or chavvy.
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