On the contrary yes they can

Fact is they both came off like idiots since they got in there, neither of themselves are particularly endearing.

However if push comes to shove and I have to pick between someone who helped to wreck a marriage while showing no remorse or someone who wouldn't let it go that she felt no remorse...Then id say Perez was the lesser of the evils.

They both need to stop acting like prats and nobody came off well but I don't have any sympathy for Katie in that situation.

Perez obviously came off worst for several reasons

He took what had been designed as a fairly light hearted and bonding task to. Give the housemates something to concentrate on after a difficult night and tried to turn it into a chance to get at another housemate
I'm no Katie fan but adultery does happen. She did go onto marry this man, it is not as though it was a heartless fling. He doeSn't know enough about the circumstances to be thrpwing abuse about.
There are so many other things you could haul Katie over the coals for.
Katie responded reasonably and calmly so appeared the bigger person. Any vitriol was saved up for the diary room.

I'm really not a Katie fan but she handled herself well tonight.

Perez lost because people no longer suspect that he's a prat. They are now certain about it.

This.

A bit leading given that Perez is in all-caps, but Katie is in lowercase letters, but still, it was always going to be Perez.

Perez is exhausting and a total attention seeker, as well as being a very insecure little man. So yeah, he definitely came out looking worse tonight.

You've completely missed the point.

Katie doesn't set out to upset people.
When she's clearly joking (like with the ginger babies comment) that's one thing.
But her points about fat people etc aren't just things being said to upset anyone, they are saying, in an extreme way, very important things.

Obesity is a HUGE problem in the UK, costing the NHS millions.
People who moan about Katie are part of that reason, not just obese people.
Because Katie says what needs to be said and opens debate on these things.

Only because he knew his backfire completely backfired and he badly misread the situation.

Saying sorry is overrated anyway, it means very little.

Why on earth should Katie show remorse?
She wasn't married, she wasn't at fault, if anyone was at fault it was the man who was married.

I love how people's morals completely change when it's someone they don't like comes up to be talked about.

Okay im sorry but there is huge hypocrisy there

My morals have not changed in any way shape or form. The fact she wasn't married is NO EXCUSE. They are both to blame, she doesn't get a pass because she wasn't married when she admitted she knew he was married.

If a marriage is going to end, it shouldn't end through cheating. If it has to it should end between them two deciding it doesn't work not somebody else getting involved feeling like she should make that decision.

Please dont ever pretend you think I change my morals because you haven't got a clue about me. I have always thought this and always will think this.

I couldn't care less if its Katie Hopkins or the Queen, I would still feel the exact same

Oh, I see. It looked to me like he was saying what's the difference in Ken asking invasive, probing questions when he was just shut down for doing it. And then he was shut down for doing that.

Silly me.

So, when she says offensive things about anyone other than "fat people" they're just silly little jokes.

Where she (and you kind of, for defending her) loose all credibility is when she says she has no problem with alcoholics. She didn't mention drug addicts, or smokers, so I'm not sure where she stands on that. But they also all cost the NHS millions, and it's just as easy to control as a food addiction.

Of course obesity is a problem. But to trivialize people who are struggling with it as simply being lazy, is insulting.

Katie isn't a lovely housemate by a long shot but she's honest and stands up for people that she thinks deserves to be. Perez is just a drama queen who craves the airtime.

Katie has shown that she isn't a pantomime villain like she was thought to be.

Katie for the final.

Thanks for your concern, but I've not missed any point. Katie fans can make all the excuses in the world (as they have been on here this series), I believe Katie does set out to hurt people.

Is the name Tyler (for example) a HUGE problem in the UK, costing people millions? Oh, wait, judging children and their families because of a name was another of her "jokes", I assume? Mocking a seriously ill woman was another hilarious "joke" too?

And casually calling for more bombing without showing the slightest bit of sympathy for innocents? Was that one of her "important points" that couldn't possible have been said in another way?

What about having sex with a married man, bragging about it as if it was an achievement to her and then absolving herself of any blame because she wasn't the one married? Where does that fit in the "jokes / important point" spectrum?

Excuses, excuses. She's a horrible person in my opinion, and nothing I've seen in the house has changed that.


Complete nonsense. It takes two to tango. If somebody knowingly sleeps with a married man, both are at fault.

And what makes you think anyones' morals have changed? Have you proof any of those criticising Katie for the affair supported infidelity themselves before?

Good god, what a disgusting and ignorant post.
You've just said that addiction is 'easy to control'.

Wow. Just wow.

Someone being grossly overweight does not mean they have a food addiction for a start. Food addiction in itself is still not proven in any way like alcohol or drug addiction is.

Hey, but it's all easy to control according to you.

Ironically, what you've just said is way more offensive than anything Katie Hopkins has said.

'I am liking Katie more and more as time goes. I feel the opposite about Perez and can see him being next out as I think most housemates will nominate him unless BB interferes.

Nope I think refering to something that is practically slave labour as "Well its still a job" is far worse than anything EnricolV said.

I don't agree about addiction being an easy thing but Katie still takes the idiocy crowd.

Perez by a country mile just for acting like a 5yr old sticking his tongue out and making noise like a child, Katie did well not to slap him (which is probably what he wanted her to do)
Also when he was trying to preach about addition, taking over in the dancing it was all about him and if it isn't he gets all sulky - pathetic and he will be up next week for sure

Katie is just the b*tch we know she is who has no morale compass however it's pretty scary when she is coming across as sane compared to some of the others!!

Erm, the 'well it's a job' JOKE is 'far worse' than an ignorant and real comment about addiction being an easy thing to sort out?

Not in the real world.

Who came off worst?
The one snivelling into his woolly hat in the diary room. Back to the US asap please.

You know its a joke do you? Did Katie let on it was a joke? Did anybody laugh or did their eyes double in size in shock at what she said.

The well its a job comment is by far the most ignorant thing I have heard in a long time.

Was it a joke saying she would judge children's class by their name?

Or what about the comment about Life Expectancy in Scotland after the helicopter crash?

Insulting the Trade Union Leader Bob Crow after he passed away.

Described Palestinians as "Filthy Rodents" and urging Isreal to resume attacks on them..

Made comments about an aid who travelled to help with the ebola virus after she contracted it herself.

All of these are jokes are they

Yeah Katie Hopkins is a bloody riot

Moi and loudly.

I know the rabid Katie haters will disagree but this thread has to be a joke right?

Who was worse out of Katie and Perez? I mean seriously?

Perez is the far far worse in every way shape or form, and last night was no different.

Perez made an absolute fool of himself