Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.
The risk of viewers getting offended is ruining Big Brother.
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Originally Posted by Reice1992:
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
Similarly, Ken knew the rules of the show, acted in ways contrary to the rules he agreed to abide by, and was thus punished.
I do agree that in some instances people are very quick to complain about things, but in relation to Ken, it's blatantly obvious that what he did was wholly offensive.
Originally Posted by Reice1992:
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
Yeah! How dare those pc do gooders be offended by sexism and racist language!
People should be allowed to say whatever hateful stuff they like. Ain't good tele if people can't do all that.
The problem I have is that they put warnings on before the programme starts and inbetween the adverts warning viewers that there may be offensive content.
Now they even specifically list what types of content are coming up and may be liable to offend some people.
So really viewers only have themselves to blame if they decide to continue to watch and then get offended.
Now they even specifically list what types of content are coming up and may be liable to offend some people.
So really viewers only have themselves to blame if they decide to continue to watch and then get offended.
It has got progressively worse since the whole Jade and Shilpa thing. It's just gone way too far now. Personally I am rarely offended by anything shown on Big Brother and have never felt the need to complain to Ofcom at all.
I think we all know what to expect from this show and other alike. Why watch something if it is going to offend you, we have become far too sensitive over the slightest thing. At the end of the day, all these celebrities are doing is hurting themselves and their careers, let them get on with it.
I think we all know what to expect from this show and other alike. Why watch something if it is going to offend you, we have become far too sensitive over the slightest thing. At the end of the day, all these celebrities are doing is hurting themselves and their careers, let them get on with it.
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“Similarly, Ken knew the rules of the show, acted in ways contrary to the rules he agreed to abide by, and was thus punished.
I do agree that in some instances people are very quick to complain about things, but in relation to Ken, it's blatantly obvious that what he did was wholly offensive.”
“Similarly, Ken knew the rules of the show, acted in ways contrary to the rules he agreed to abide by, and was thus punished.
I do agree that in some instances people are very quick to complain about things, but in relation to Ken, it's blatantly obvious that what he did was wholly offensive.”
I agree. I think Ken acted up to ensure he was evicted....maybe not seeing it would be by the back door though.
Housemates are ejected for breaking rules they agreed to before entering the house. Not for any other reason. So stop blaming the PC (polite and civilised) brigade.
Originally Posted by Bex7t6:
“Yeah! How dare those pc do gooders be offended by sexism and racist language!
People should be allowed to say whatever hateful stuff they like. Ain't good tele if people can't do all that.”
“Yeah! How dare those pc do gooders be offended by sexism and racist language!
People should be allowed to say whatever hateful stuff they like. Ain't good tele if people can't do all that.
”
actually yes they should, especially on a show like big brother, which is meant to be a social experiment.
its quite simple, if you are someone who is sensitive or easily offended, then you are watching the wrong show.
people like Ken need to be challenged !! not silenced !!
if you keep silencing these people they will just carry on with their dated views.
I agree but is it time that we have 2 big brothers.
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?
Originally Posted by Reice1992:
“Why is BB”
“Why is BB”
Originally Posted by Reice1992:
“ succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
“ succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
Some people will find fault with Blue Peter.
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Housemates are ejected for breaking rules they agreed to before entering the house. Not for any other reason. So stop blaming the PC (polite and civilised) brigade.”
“Housemates are ejected for breaking rules they agreed to before entering the house. Not for any other reason. So stop blaming the PC (polite and civilised) brigade.”
you can be polite and civilized and still support free speech.
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“Similarly, Ken knew the rules of the show, acted in ways contrary to the rules he agreed to abide by, and was thus punished.
I do agree that in some instances people are very quick to complain about things, but in relation to Ken, it's blatantly obvious that what he did was wholly offensive.”
“Similarly, Ken knew the rules of the show, acted in ways contrary to the rules he agreed to abide by, and was thus punished.
I do agree that in some instances people are very quick to complain about things, but in relation to Ken, it's blatantly obvious that what he did was wholly offensive.”
and more to the point, in spite of his formal warning, he carried on regardless. He needed to go.
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
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Some people will find fault with Blue Peter.”
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Some people will find fault with Blue Peter.”
They did once. Presenter Peter Duncan once made a soft core porn film.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/t...ans-tv-4032030
Just copied this from a comment on the DM about Ken's removal...
" We've had a tragic weekend of events in Paris. The crux of it all was the right to be offended and freedom of speech - liberty etc. Now we have offcom receiving complaints of just that! Where does it all start and end? "
It takes all sorts to make the world go round.
" We've had a tragic weekend of events in Paris. The crux of it all was the right to be offended and freedom of speech - liberty etc. Now we have offcom receiving complaints of just that! Where does it all start and end? "
It takes all sorts to make the world go round.
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“and more to the point, in spite of his formal warning, he carried on regardless. He needed to go.”
“and more to the point, in spite of his formal warning, he carried on regardless. He needed to go.”
It was his aim to get thrown out- didn't he say as much to Alexander the other night when he tried covering their mics? I am curious as to what he said to actually get shown the door - I think BB clashes with Broadchurch tonight- decisions decisions
I was thinking about this earlier when I read about Ken's removal. Obviously you couldn't leave someone in there who was genuinely causing extreme distress to another housemate (Its not quite that much of a Victorian freak show... yet) but I actually do think there might be something interesting in leaving in someone who uses grossly offensive and inappropriate comments, especially if they are up for eviction - because a part of me would like the reassurance that we as an audience are quite capable of then registering our own dislike over it by voting them out ourselves.
And in a way that would say a lot more about what this country is prepared to tolerate/not-tolerate than some people in the production office deciding for us.
...Of course my plan could easily backfire and I could be left with the sinking realisation that everyone in the UK is just as horrible as this forum occasionally makes me think they are...
(still love you all though x)
And in a way that would say a lot more about what this country is prepared to tolerate/not-tolerate than some people in the production office deciding for us.
...Of course my plan could easily backfire and I could be left with the sinking realisation that everyone in the UK is just as horrible as this forum occasionally makes me think they are...
(still love you all though x)
Originally Posted by Reice1992:
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
“Why is BB succumbing to the whining of easily offended viewers? If you don't like what you see on BB, don't watch. It's not on the BBC, it's not the only channel available in the UK. They're ruining BB in my view.”
Totally agree, why dont the 'offended' ones bog off. Theres loads of other channels to try and find something to offend these delicate flowers.
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“you can be polite and civilized and still support free speech.”
“you can be polite and civilized and still support free speech.”
You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
Very good point.
Originally Posted by Artemis1:
“I agree but is it time that we have 2 big brothers.
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?”
“I agree but is it time that we have 2 big brothers.
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?”
I agree this would be better. At the moment there are a lot of fans who really enjoy watching the conflicts but the exciting people get booted off way too quickly coz channel 5 are now terrified of viewers being offended. So basically a few offended people ruin it for the majority. Def a cleaner edited version and a more raw real version would be the best. However the offended would prob still go and watch the 'offensive' version and then complain.
Originally Posted by Artemis1:
“I agree but is it time that we have 2 big brothers.
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?”
“I agree but is it time that we have 2 big brothers.
There are 2 audience types out there
1 bb fans who do not like conflict but love the bb experience
2 bb fans who love conflict and are not offended by anything and love the bb experience.
Bb Australia 2013 did for example the normal show and one late night extra show (shown much later )which was not as heavily edited.
The unedited one could be internet only
Thoughts?”
Not for me..........there is no issue here apart from the fact that Ken Morley either deliberately or naturally behaved liked a crass offensive oaf with no regard for common good manners or conduct or the rules of the gameshow he was playing.I don't think there is an issue for the BB concept on the whole and I salute chucking such people out as part of the process.I only hope that in being ejected he doesn't get his fee.
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
i know, and i am fine with that!!
I was disgusted with Evanders comment last year, but i wanted his views challenged !
not him being silenced like a naughty school boy.
There is a button on the tv which means you can switch off. It's not as if the show doesn't give about 6 billion warnings about the content. It looks like the PC Brigade and the Terminally and Fashionably Offended have ruined the show for everyone else.
As has already been said, BB began as a social experiment and yes there are dinosaurs like Ken who live in a by gone age. The point is the public should be allowed to vote and so remove if they don't like what they are hearing and seeing without BB's heavy handed interference. It's particularly annoying when there doesn't seem to be a level playing field - Helen Wood and her golden ticket is a case in point. She got away with murder.
As has already been said, BB began as a social experiment and yes there are dinosaurs like Ken who live in a by gone age. The point is the public should be allowed to vote and so remove if they don't like what they are hearing and seeing without BB's heavy handed interference. It's particularly annoying when there doesn't seem to be a level playing field - Helen Wood and her golden ticket is a case in point. She got away with murder.
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
“You can, but part of supporting free speech is accepting that you'll hear things you don't like or even things that disgust you.”
Free speech doesn't mean you can say anything free of all consequences though does it? Especially when you are doing a job and being paid for it. I'm sure there were rules in Kens contract. I support people right to say what they want even if I find it disgusting (as long as they are not inciting violence), but the BB house isn't exactly real life.
I think BB did the right thing. Apart from anything I think they have a duty of care to the other housemates. I don't think it's fair that Alexander and others should have to live with someone who uses that language. I know Alexander dealt with it well and everything, but in real life you could just walk away and never have to see or speak to that person again, where as in BB you are stuck living with them.
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