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I prefer Perez to Katie and her gang
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ultros
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“I think you're wrong. I doubt Michele is in the know where Katie is concerned. ”

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Originally Posted by Bionic01:
“Agreed. And Michelle is definitely aware of who Katie is and has spoken on twitter before against her. I'm kind of disappointed she hasn't taken her to task a bit, being the 'protector' and all. I do think she is slightly intimidated by her.”

Exactly !!
She has given it the big'un on twitter about Katie Hopkins but now she has come face to face with her she is not so brave.
She is a pussy
She knows that if she goes against Katie and Katie gets the better of her it will expose the 'strong alpha female' image of her as a load of rubbish. So instead she is sucking up to Katie and is trying to say she is a nice person really, it's just her 'twitter persona' that is bad
She is firmly on the Katie party wagon of hate, and will continue to 'coincidentally' dislike the same people Katie does (Alicia,Perez so far) until the end, as it will save her having to have a run-in with Katie herself
Hypnoali
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by bingoes:
“Agree.

Perez is a drama queen but I think he has a good heart and I find myself laughing at his antics. Katie is a mean condescending, patronising ***** with no sense of joy.”

Totally agree. I'm team Perez too
Vesna
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
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Exactly !!
She has given it the big'un on twitter about Katie Hopkins but now she has come face to face with her she is not so brave.
She is a pussy
She knows that if she goes against Katie and Katie gets the better of her it will expose the 'strong alpha female' image of her as a load of rubbish. So instead she is sucking up to Katie and is trying to say she is a nice person really, it's just her 'twitter persona' that is bad
She is firmly on the Katie party wagon of hate, and will continue to 'coincidentally' dislike the same people Katie does (Alicia,Perez so far) until the end, as it will save her having to have a run-in with Katie herself ”


What vulgar and unnecessary language.
rfonzo
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Katie is just a masive coward. At least perez is not not afraid to speak out and make a fool of himself. Which he does daily....probably hourly.”

I know Perez should not have said what he did to Cami Li but I felt sorry for him when Nadia started telling what to immediately apologise when he was trying to explain himself. He could not get a word in and ended up crying.
ultros
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“What vulgar and unnecessary language.
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What the heck are you talking about

Definition of 'a pussy' - a weak or cowardly person : wimp, sissy

You have a filthy mind
Veri
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
“Perez is incredibly annoying but strangely I think he means well...
Yet Katie and her coven seem to be only happy when they've got a target for their venom. The way Katie floats around rolling her eyes & pulling faces to egg on her crew whenever something is about to kick off is truly vomit inducing.”

Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“I agree with EVERYTHING you just said except from Perez being annoying.

Finally! Someone who also dislikes Katie Hopkins! She's annoying me with her sneaky, behind-the-back eye rolling and I can't understand why everyone on here likes her so much.”

Now I'm trying to remember which BB series had a HM making a big deal of another HM's eye-rolling. Was it BB 15 (the most recent non-celeb one)?
Vicky8675309
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Now I'm trying to remember which BB series had a HM making a big deal of another HM's eye-rolling. Was it BB 15 (the most recent non-celeb one)?”

I'm not sure but I think it may have been Kimberly (from Helen's year) from the non-celeb series who did the eye rolling?
Vicky8675309
15-01-2015
I agree with the positive Perez comments--he is entertaining, seems good-hearted, is upfront with people but not in an overly aggressive manner. I mainly lurk but reading some posts in support of Perez made me want to show my support. He is good for the show.

Katie is also good for the show but I don't like her hypocritical manner of saying she "tells it to your face" then runs around gossiping behind their backs (sometimes she is upfront and other times she isn't upfront). She also stirs the pot and seems like a coward (others in this thread have explained it already). I do find her entertaining even if I am not a fan of her.

Perez and Katie will hopefully stay to the end to keep the show interesting. However I hope Katie and her gang don't go all mean-girl/bully….they haven't yet and I think some in her cliche wouldn't stand for it….however I worry about Perez since I think he is sensitive and wants to be liked (some of his crying may be playing up to the cameras but I do think he is genuinely upset/hurt when he cries….also his advice to people, while it may not be good advice, seems to come from a good place (he seems like he is trying to help them and I think it is a sign of "niceness" to try to offer unsolicited help/advice but I can see where it can backfire)

Perez makes the show interesting and while he is OTT, he does't come off as annoying/selfish as the guy on the last non-celeb BB--shorter OTT guy who hung out with Chris (marcus or something like that). Also Perez can realize and admit when he is wrong and offer sincere apologies.
Mrs Checks
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Now I'm trying to remember which BB series had a HM making a big deal of another HM's eye-rolling. Was it BB 15 (the most recent non-celeb one)?”

I'm not sure but now you say that, I'm reminded of Louise's problem with Maisie "she looks at me funny"
Captain Kipper
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“I agree with the positive Perez comments--he is entertaining, seems good-hearted,”

He's proud to be known as an online bully...that's not a kind hearted person.
Dexter Fan1
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Now I'm trying to remember which BB series had a HM making a big deal of another HM's eye-rolling. Was it BB 15 (the most recent non-celeb one)?”

Wasn't that Jale?
scout2006
15-01-2015
Perez has made me laugh (unintentionally) but Katie hasn't. Atm I'd like Perez to make the final as he's been central to what's been going on in the house, good and bad. I don't really care when Katie leaves as long as it's not last, as the winner.
R82n8
15-01-2015
There will always be "fans" of certain housmates just here to take the piss and wind you up.

Robert Mugabe could enter the house and there will always be a vocal few who support him unconditionally.
That's the nature of the beast on DS.

Easy to spot, thick as dried Camel shit, but this place needs them for the laugh.
rsefitpro07
15-01-2015
Perez is so annoying and so irritating. He makes the BB House into the Perez Hilton Chat Show every time

The guys annoying, and he needs to get chucked out especially over his comments and behaviours!
zabe
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by rsefitpro07:
“Perez is so annoying and so irritating. He makes the BB House into the Perez Hilton Chat Show every time

The guys annoying, and he needs to get chucked out especially over his comments and behaviours!”

Well according to the DS poll almost 80% of the forum agrees so far ~ I dont get the love for him on here I'm afraid, he is a troublemaking, vindictive, vicious little man with huge issues
icefall
15-01-2015
Perez has so far been far kinder in the house generally than Katie and her coven.

Of course this may change, but so far I prefer him and his loud annoying ways over Katie, Michelle, Cami and Chloe any day.
Veri
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“I agree with the positive Perez comments--he is entertaining, seems good-hearted, is upfront with people but not in an overly aggressive manner. I mainly lurk but reading some posts in support of Perez made me want to show my support. He is good for the show.”

It seems to me that he isn't entertaining, isn't always upfront, sometimes is overly aggressive, and is such a grabber of camera time that it's making it hard for me to watch the show.

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“Katie is also good for the show but I don't like her hypocritical manner of saying she "tells it to your face" then runs around gossiping behind their backs (sometimes she is upfront and other times she isn't upfront). She also stirs the pot and seems like a coward (others in this thread have explained it already). I do find her entertaining even if I am not a fan of her.”

When someone says they "tell it to your face" (has Katie even has said that in CBB?) I see it as as a relative thing, not to be taken absolutely and literally, and not as a claim that they'll never keep something to themself or never talk about it with someone else instead of confronting.

No HM ever says everything to faces, no matter what their claims about telling it to your face, and I think it's good that they don't. Rather than see it as hypocrisy, I just think it makes them a more interesting character (certainly less 1-dimensional), with some other qualities in the mix. (To make it seem hypocrisy, it has to be interpreted in an absolute and literal way that I don't think was intended.)

But if we're going to go into hypocrisy, Perez has been quite hypocritical himself, as a couple of threads have pointed out.

Re her alleged cowardliness, I've seen posts saying she's a coward; I haven't seen any explaining it.

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“Perez and Katie will hopefully stay to the end to keep the show interesting. However I hope Katie and her gang don't go all mean-girl/bully….they haven't yet and I think some in her cliche wouldn't stand for it….however I worry about Perez since I think he is sensitive and wants to be liked (some of his crying may be playing up to the cameras but I do think he is genuinely upset/hurt when he cries….also his advice to people, while it may not be good advice, seems to come from a good place (he seems like he is trying to help them and I think it is a sign of "niceness" to try to offer unsolicited help/advice but I can see where it can backfire)

Perez makes the show interesting and while he is OTT, he does't come off as annoying/selfish as the guy on the last non-celeb BB--shorter OTT guy who hung out with Chris (marcus or something like that). Also Perez can realize and admit when he is wrong and offer sincere apologies.”

"Marcus" = Mark, a Liverpudlian? I'd agree in preferring Perez to Mark.

Who do you think is in Katie's clique or 'gang'? I don't think this CBB has divided up in that way, to any great extent.

I think Perez is spiteful, calculating, hypocritical, and desperate to be a central character in every drama. Even Michelle has had to tell him to stop trying to be so involved so often.

However, he has some better qualities too, and if he'd turn down the attention seeking and tactics, they would show through more clearly.
diesels hummin
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Now I'm trying to remember which BB series had a HM making a big deal of another HM's eye-rolling. Was it BB 15 (the most recent non-celeb one)?”

Helen bitched about Jale for allegedly rolling her eyes when Pauline was speaking.
Veri
15-01-2015
Thanks for the replies about eye-rolling.
Cranberryapple
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“Blimey four posts I agree with.

Some people in general but especially on DS (Not everyone but some) want to be a part of taking someone who is a complete outsider and making them into the winner and find ways of jsutifying any behaviour. For example "Well it's still a job" has been referred to as a "joke" when you only need to look at her history to know that sort of thing isn't a joke coming from her.

They praise the qualities in Katie but condem them in Perez when the only difference is Perez is 100% more upfront about them to people...that's deemed annoying. But with Katie its deemed "Witty, intelligent" or whatever.

They are probably more alike than any other two people in there just some people cant see it. ”

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by claire33:
“I agree, shes full of shit and has proven to be the coward she is. all she does is bitch about others behind there backs. I thought she was this up front tell it to the face person. maybe its cos she hasn't got a keyboard on hand:D”

She's got the DR

If I had to choose between KH or Perez. Would definitely be Perez.
leanleft
15-01-2015
I just started watching this season. How far this show has fallen. Its essentially become The Real World. Ply them with tons of alcohol, watch them get pissed, and then be oh so shocked when shit happens that is inappropriate.

As to Perez, I'm really perplexed that there are people on here that are saying he is a good person. The man clearly has a mental illness of some sort. His 'good person' routine is simply a tool to use to keep the attention on him.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he has any interest in being a good person. When Kev was booted out the other night and he burst out into tears- this is the perfect example of who he is. Those tears were not about anyone else, they were about him. He couldn't stand that the attention was away from him for one iota, and thus here comes the waterworks. His outrage at Jeremy's actions, even when other housemates, rightly so, ask why are you so bothered, this does not affect you, also shows this tendency.

Of course, I watched BBBOTS last night and they are playing him up as being a great character. Completely lovely.

The whole damn show is so predictable at this point.
ultros
15-01-2015
<<< Bumping my Team Perez thread of power >>>
haphash
15-01-2015
Can't stand Perez or Katie. Hope neither of them win.
Artemis1
15-01-2015
Can someone explain to me , if Parez knows that Katie is the most hated woman in Britain ,why did he over rule Nadia's nomination suggestion.
ultros
15-01-2015
Originally Posted by Artemis1:
“Can someone explain to me , if Parez knows that Katie is the most hated woman in Britain ,why did he over rule Nadia's nomination suggestion.”

Like he said, he knows it will be a wasted vote. The people will keep her in with a vote to save for the drama.
He managed to get 2 of her closest allies up instead
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