Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“I agree with the positive Perez comments--he is entertaining, seems good-hearted, is upfront with people but not in an overly aggressive manner. I mainly lurk but reading some posts in support of Perez made me want to show my support. He is good for the show.”
It seems to me that he isn't entertaining, isn't always upfront, sometimes is overly aggressive, and is such a grabber of camera time that it's making it hard for me to watch the show.
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“Katie is also good for the show but I don't like her hypocritical manner of saying she "tells it to your face" then runs around gossiping behind their backs (sometimes she is upfront and other times she isn't upfront). She also stirs the pot and seems like a coward (others in this thread have explained it already). I do find her entertaining even if I am not a fan of her.”
When someone says they "tell it to your face" (has Katie even has said that in CBB?) I see it as as a relative thing, not to be taken absolutely and literally, and not as a claim that they'll never keep something to themself or never talk about it with someone else instead of confronting.
No HM ever says everything to faces, no matter what their claims about telling it to your face, and I think it's good that they don't. Rather than see it as hypocrisy, I just think it makes them a more interesting character (certainly less 1-dimensional), with some other qualities in the mix. (To make it seem hypocrisy, it has to be interpreted in an absolute and literal way that I don't think was intended.)
But if we're going to go into hypocrisy, Perez has been quite hypocritical himself, as a couple of threads have pointed out.
Re her alleged cowardliness, I've seen posts saying she's a coward; I haven't seen any
explaining it.
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“Perez and Katie will hopefully stay to the end to keep the show interesting. However I hope Katie and her gang don't go all mean-girl/bully….they haven't yet and I think some in her cliche wouldn't stand for it….however I worry about Perez since I think he is sensitive and wants to be liked (some of his crying may be playing up to the cameras but I do think he is genuinely upset/hurt when he cries….also his advice to people, while it may not be good advice, seems to come from a good place (he seems like he is trying to help them and I think it is a sign of "niceness" to try to offer unsolicited help/advice but I can see where it can backfire)
Perez makes the show interesting and while he is OTT, he does't come off as annoying/selfish as the guy on the last non-celeb BB--shorter OTT guy who hung out with Chris (marcus or something like that). Also Perez can realize and admit when he is wrong and offer sincere apologies.”
"Marcus" = Mark, a Liverpudlian? I'd agree in preferring Perez to Mark.
Who do you think is in Katie's clique or 'gang'? I don't think this CBB has divided up in that way, to any great extent.
I think Perez is spiteful, calculating, hypocritical, and desperate to be a central character in every drama. Even Michelle has had to tell him to stop trying to be so involved so often.
However, he has some better qualities too, and if he'd turn down the attention seeking and tactics, they would show through more clearly.