Originally Posted by Rapunzal1977:
“Nope she did say that - amongst other things, watch playback thank you”
“Nope she did say that - amongst other things, watch playback thank you”
I have watched it.
Fair Play on Nadia
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Good on Nadia for defending Alicia and not bowing down to the vile Housemates
Was Nadia expected to be like Callum,Kav,Cheggars etc and not getting involved hoping it would go away ,it won;t unless it is confronted by BB or the HMs it will only get worse
I would bet that when Cami is first up for nomination,she will go
BB put them ALL up for eviction and let the GBP speak
Was Nadia expected to be like Callum,Kav,Cheggars etc and not getting involved hoping it would go away ,it won;t unless it is confronted by BB or the HMs it will only get worse
I would bet that when Cami is first up for nomination,she will go
BB put them ALL up for eviction and let the GBP speak
Originally Posted by Rapunzal1977:
“I think you were watching a different show
Alicia was sitting quiet in bed - they started on her! Cholse making ill judged comments, NAdia bounced in when she got very very personal in saying basically no one would hang around with her and being manipulated!”
“I think you were watching a different show
Alicia was sitting quiet in bed - they started on her! Cholse making ill judged comments, NAdia bounced in when she got very very personal in saying basically no one would hang around with her and being manipulated!”
Nadia did what I said. She kept making an issue of it, pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone. The worst of the "ill judged comments" was not said until Nadia had escalated it into a much worse argument.
Under normal circumstances the disgusting treatment of Alicia would be one of the main forum topics, rightly too.
However Perez and KP have overshadowed it.
I was really quite appalled at the horrible treatment she is receiving in there. It was IMO bullying.
However Perez and KP have overshadowed it.
I was really quite appalled at the horrible treatment she is receiving in there. It was IMO bullying.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Nadia did what I said. She kept making an issue of it, pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone. The worst of the "ill judged comments" was not said until Nadia had escalated it into a much worse argument.”
“Nadia did what I said. She kept making an issue of it, pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone. The worst of the "ill judged comments" was not said until Nadia had escalated it into a much worse argument.
”
Yes because the best way of tackling bullies is to 'let it alone'.
If Nadia actually went to sleep or ignored things the amount of times she's threatened to then all would be good in the world of BB - but she just can't keep her pokey little nose out of other people's business.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“She's like anti-entertainment. I'd rather watch even HMs who don't "do anything" than watch her.
They are not a gang, and Nadia is not alone. Haven't you seen her scheming with Perez?
Nadia "supported" Alicia by pushing, and pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone.”
“She's like anti-entertainment. I'd rather watch even HMs who don't "do anything" than watch her.
They are not a gang, and Nadia is not alone. Haven't you seen her scheming with Perez?
Nadia "supported" Alicia by pushing, and pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone.”
No, Chloe and the others kept it going by being vile, they were the ones being 'nasty' . People have to stand up to bullies. Good on Nadia for being the one to do so.
They certainly came across like a gang. Very uncomfortable in the kitchen when Katie, Chloe/Cami and Micelle were ganged up against Alicia.
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“If Nadia actually went to sleep or ignored things the amount of times she's threatened to then all would be good in the world of BB - but she just can't keep her pokey little nose out of other people's business.”
“If Nadia actually went to sleep or ignored things the amount of times she's threatened to then all would be good in the world of BB - but she just can't keep her pokey little nose out of other people's business.”
That's called Appeasement. If we'd done that in 1939, we'd all be talking in German now.
Originally Posted by Javed:
“No, Chloe and the others kept it going by being vile, they were the ones being 'nasty' . People have to stand up to bullies. Good on Nadia for being the one to do so.”
“No, Chloe and the others kept it going by being vile, they were the ones being 'nasty' . People have to stand up to bullies. Good on Nadia for being the one to do so.”
Bully this, bully that, people brandish the word all over the place these days.
They have a disagreement on views and opinions, they discuss (shout) about Perez using her.
Life's like that unfortunately and Nadia just had to get involved, pushing and pushing for clarity, which in turn led to an even more heated debate.
She should have just left the room and left them to it, but no, she went on and on and on.
I haven't watched last night episode yet, but anyone that puts that horrid uncouth harridan in their place gets a thumbs up from me....I hope she gets put down many times before she leave...
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“Bully this, bully that, people brandish the word all over the place these days.
They have a disagreement on views and opinions, they discuss (shout) about Perez using her.
Life's like that unfortunately and Nadia just had to get involved, pushing and pushing for clarity, which in turn led to an even more heated debate.
She should have just left the room and left them to it, but no, she went on and on and on.”
“Bully this, bully that, people brandish the word all over the place these days.
They have a disagreement on views and opinions, they discuss (shout) about Perez using her.
Life's like that unfortunately and Nadia just had to get involved, pushing and pushing for clarity, which in turn led to an even more heated debate.
She should have just left the room and left them to it, but no, she went on and on and on.”
Good for her for standing up to the vile bullies - three against one is not an equal 'disagreement'. if it lead to an even more heated debate - GOOD! It was very revealing.
Some 'men' on here are obviously total cowards.
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“I haven't watched last night episode yet, but anyone that puts that horrid uncouth harridan in their place gets a thumbs up from me....I hope she gets put down many times before she leave...”
“I haven't watched last night episode yet, but anyone that puts that horrid uncouth harridan in their place gets a thumbs up from me....I hope she gets put down many times before she leave...”
Lol, which one Seymour??
Originally Posted by Javed:
“Good for her for standing up to the vile bullies - three against one is not an equal 'disagreement'. if it lead to an even more heated debate - GOOD! It was very revealing.
Some 'men' on here are obviously total cowards.”
“Good for her for standing up to the vile bullies - three against one is not an equal 'disagreement'. if it lead to an even more heated debate - GOOD! It was very revealing.
Some 'men' on here are obviously total cowards.”
Oh like all the women ganging up on Ken because he said he liked looking at their arses?
You mean that kind of ganging up....that Nadia headed like the nasty, vindictive cow that she is?
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Nadia did what I said. She kept making an issue of it, pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone. The worst of the "ill judged comments" was not said until Nadia had escalated it into a much worse argument.”
“Nadia did what I said. She kept making an issue of it, pushing, and pushing to keep the argument going and make it worse. It never would have become so nasty if Nadia had let it alone. The worst of the "ill judged comments" was not said until Nadia had escalated it into a much worse argument.
”
I agree.
It was Nadia that took offence at Chloe saying Perez was manipulating Alicia and turned it into nobody liking Alicia.
It could have ended at Alicia saying "No he isn't" if she hadn't waded in on her behalf.
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“Oh like all the women ganging up on Ken because he said he liked looking at their arses?
You mean that kind of ganging up....that Nadia headed like the nasty, vindictive cow that she is?”
“Oh like all the women ganging up on Ken because he said he liked looking at their arses?
You mean that kind of ganging up....that Nadia headed like the nasty, vindictive cow that she is?”
Nice try at deflecting. We are not talking about that incident but just to be clear, it was him calling them sluts, slappers etc and following them into the bathroom to ogle them and carrying on doing it after they asked him to stop. . But that has been done to death in other threads.
If you feel the need to call names, that just shows your argument has failed,
Originally Posted by lynwood3:
“I agree.
It was Nadia that took offence at Chloe saying Perez was manipulating Alicia and turned it into nobody liking Alicia.
It could have ended at Alicia saying "No he isn't" if she hadn't waded in on her behalf.”
“I agree.
It was Nadia that took offence at Chloe saying Perez was manipulating Alicia and turned it into nobody liking Alicia.
It could have ended at Alicia saying "No he isn't" if she hadn't waded in on her behalf.”
She brought their vileness right out into the open. Why is everyone suddenly saying ' anything for a quiet life'? This is the Big Brother House. It's not about people getting on,
Originally Posted by Javed:
“Nice try at deflecting. We are not talking about that incident but just to be clear, it was him calling them sluts, slappers etc and following them into the bathroom to ogle them and carrying on doing it after they asked him to stop. . But that has been done to death in other threads.
If you feel the need to call names, that just shows your argument has failed,”
“Nice try at deflecting. We are not talking about that incident but just to be clear, it was him calling them sluts, slappers etc and following them into the bathroom to ogle them and carrying on doing it after they asked him to stop. . But that has been done to death in other threads.
If you feel the need to call names, that just shows your argument has failed,”
And yet Nadia headed up the gang - showing that she agrees with gang mentality.
THAT - is undeniable, sorry.
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Once again Nadia made the argument even worse.
And why did she do that?
Oh yeah, because she expects the public to be sat at home going "oh what a wonderful person, full of morals she is!".”
“Once again Nadia made the argument even worse.
And why did she do that?
Oh yeah, because she expects the public to be sat at home going "oh what a wonderful person, full of morals she is!".”
Why do you have such a problem with people doing the right thing? Do you think maybe you need to address that?
Could you just sit there and watch someone get attacked by those two monstrosities? I know I couldn't.
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Ironically it could be said that Nadia was only defending Alicia because she thinks she's too stupid to defend herself.
Ever thought of that?”
“Ironically it could be said that Nadia was only defending Alicia because she thinks she's too stupid to defend herself.
Ever thought of that?”
Nope. Absolutely not true. Nadia sat on it for days. The beginning of the Alicia taunts began way before Nadia finally intervened. Nadia left it to Alicia to say her piece to Katie and to handle it her own way.
Last night was the last straw, and the confrontation was absolutely required at that moment. Nadia was awesome. And I'm very happy to say that many people also feel that way. There will always be haters.
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“Nope. Absolutely not true. Nadia sat on it for days. The beginning of the Alicia taunts began way before Nadia finally intervened. Nadia left it to Alicia to say her piece to Katie and to handle it her own way.
Last night was the last straw, and the confrontation was absolutely required at that moment. Nadia was awesome. And I'm very happy to say that many people also feel that way. There will always be haters.”
“Nope. Absolutely not true. Nadia sat on it for days. The beginning of the Alicia taunts began way before Nadia finally intervened. Nadia left it to Alicia to say her piece to Katie and to handle it her own way.
Last night was the last straw, and the confrontation was absolutely required at that moment. Nadia was awesome. And I'm very happy to say that many people also feel that way. There will always be haters.”
Basically Alicia needs to get a backbone, stand up for herself and have some grit about her.
Nadia didn't need to intervene, she knew by doing so it would make it worse because every other time she's tried...she's made it worse.
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“Why do you have such a problem with people doing the right thing? Do you think maybe you need to address that?”
“Why do you have such a problem with people doing the right thing? Do you think maybe you need to address that?”
I don't have a problem with people doing the right thing, what an odd comment to make.
The right thing in your eyes isn't the right thing in everyone's eyes, you do realize that don't you?
Originally Posted by Javed:
“Yes because the best way of tackling bullies is to 'let it alone'.”
“Yes because the best way of tackling bullies is to 'let it alone'.
”
As if that's what I said.
Nadia made it worse, and the worst parts came after Nadia had pushed things to greater and greater heights. That's what happened.
Originally Posted by Javed:
“So you'd like a 'happy house'? People would complain it was boring then!
And while it may have made the argument worse at that moment, it was cathartic and also very revealing. Cami Li came across as truly vile; Michelle as the opposite of Champion of the underdog and Nadia as someone who sticks up for the bullied. So good nights work I say.”
“So you'd like a 'happy house'? People would complain it was boring then!
And while it may have made the argument worse at that moment, it was cathartic and also very revealing. Cami Li came across as truly vile; Michelle as the opposite of Champion of the underdog and Nadia as someone who sticks up for the bullied. So good nights work I say.”
Spot on. Not often in the BB house do you get such outright, unbridled truth forced out of someone. Nadia allowed that to happen. It also allowed Alicia to do something which made me very proud of her, to stand up, and defend herself, not in a mousy way, but in a way that showed she's got guts.
It was cathartic, and I hope Alicia can bounce back from the hurtful comments from Cami. I think she can, as Cami just showed how juvenile she can be and is not to be taken seriously.
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