Well everyone has haters, but without doing a poll of the nation it's impossible to say for sure how Nadia is thought of by the majority.

I can't believe some people are falling for the 'sticking up for bullies' rubbish!

Nadia thinks Alicia is as dopey as everyone else does, that's why she thinks she can't defend herself.
Nadia purposely escalated the argument just so she could get involved and do the 'Look at me, the voice of reason' stuff.

Now that is one selfish woman.

Clearly. We have a different perspective. If I saw someone being targeted and made to feel very small...I would hope to god I'd intervene. That's just my nature. Right, or not. So in that case, you wouldn't like me at all. And I'd happily live with that.

How was it "three against one"?

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I didn't say the majority. I said 'many.' And btw, I couldn't give a toss what any 'majority' think. Let them think what they like.

The best thing she's done so far , stuck up for Alicia. I'm glad she stuck her nose in on that one It needed saying.

Mostly likely, yes.


Nadia did not do the right thing. Far from it.


But Alicia did stand up for herself. Which is one reason why Nadia did not need to get involved in the way she did, which distorted what was said and made the argument worse.

Th whole nation does not watch BB

Not worse, it made the argument better.

I absolutely agree with you, what I meant was that Alicia needs to tell Nadia and Perez to butt out as well - they're actually making her look even weaker, as if she needs them to fight her battles.

I'm starting to wonder if there re any women you actually like??

Ah well that's anotner topic entirely.

Yeah, Nadia went up last night, Michelle went down.

I think Nadia was right to defend Alicia, and stood up well to Cami. I detested her interfering with Ken and her bossyness with Perez ordering him to apologise immediately. Some of the times she has been too involved, interfering and bossy. However, in this scenario, I think she did well. And I have a feeling if this incident took place on the first night most people would agree. I could be wrong, but I can't help but think her behaviour now is being judged more negatively because of her behaviour earlier on (which I didn't like either) but it doesn't mean she has to be always wrong.

They absolutely had been butting out, for days.
But finally, it was the last straw. Cami was utterly obnoxious and her temper was rising, so Nadia fought fire with fire. It was NOT pretty I give you that. But it was pretty brilliant.

Someone on Twitter just said she's walked. Does anyone know if its true?

Nadia can't help but get involved at times, and can most certainly be a catalyst for exacerbating certain situations. She took the 'Perez is using Alicia' line and expanded and exaggerated it to mean that they she had said it was impossible for ANY one to like her, and kept repeating the same thing again and again and again, and directly and loudly in front of Alicia and the rest of the room.

Without Nadia doing this, I don't think the row would have been anywhere near what it was. Not even close.

There are ways and means of dealing with certain situations and this for me was certainly not one of the better ways to go about it.

She's really not not the moral arbiter or voice of reason she so clearly thinks she is. Last night was no different. Sometimes the so called peacemaker can actually also be a part of the problem.

I think Nadia was right to say something. Came Li is spiteful.

Nadia is FABULOUS.

What is Cami-Li's beef with Alicia anyway? Where has this hatred began?

Because she lied to her about the implants in her arse? The fact she hid two bananas? Or has there been something more?

I mean, I don't much care for Alicia (though I don't dislike her) but she seems quite an unremarkable hm who doesn't go around making her mouth go or winding people up. Her personality doesn't seem to warrant that much spite from Cami-Li.

Have I missed something?

She made the situation worse IMO. While I think her intentions were mainly good (sticking up for Alicia), I do believe she stuck her nose in for selfish reasons too.

When Cami said Perez was using Alicia, Nadia asked if people would only be friends with Alicia to use her. Cami never said that, she said Perez was only friends with her to use her, because she hates Perez. By asking that question Nadia stirred the pot.
Obviously Cami, in a mixture of her blind hatred of Perez, stubbornness and sheer stupidity, said yes, that is what she meant, but it wasn't.

No one came off well in that argument and I think trying to paint Nadia as some kind of Saint is naive.

Simply put, cami is a bit unhinged imo. No, JT, as far as we know, alicia hasn't done anything overt to get that reaction, maybe irritated people without meaning to but ultimately cami sounded like a mini hopkins last night whilst attacking alicia, so i don't think she's particularly nice and has a bit of a pack mentality thing going on.

She's jealous because she thinks Alicia is more feminine/ more girly than her. She's a threat.

Agreed. Nadia always seems to make things worse, not better - regardless of her initial intentions. She comes across as a nosey, self righteous busybody with very little self-awareness.

Why does Nadia think she needs to save Alicia. Obviously she sees her as weak and pathetic.

It was really embarrassing when Alicia was shouting "nadia, Nadia, did you hear what they said about my family"