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Alicia would rather hang around with Perez than Katie.
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Penny Crayon
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Well, now shes questioning whether Perez is using her...about time too.

Katie is rightly not nice to her, shes awful.”

So like Cami Li and Chloe you think that she's not deserving of anyone being nice to her?

Nice.
Captain Kipper
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“So like Cami Li and Chloe you think that she's not deserving of anyone being nice to her?

Nice.”

I didn't say that.

But knowing what we know about Perez everything is for show...so his getting close to Alicia could easily be to create more drama and stoke up the flames in her dislike for Katie...which suits his purposes just fine.
Jay Bigz
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Well of course, Perez crawls up her backside and they agree about Katie, and Katie is onto Alicia's little victim act...so of course she would rather be with Perez.”

Alicia doesn't play a 'victim' act. I haven't seen her shed a single tear, or wallow in any kind of self pity. She's actually coming across as quite strong.

Basically she's ****ed up her face and lost a shit load of confidence. It's hard to be super positive when you know people are judging you every time they look at your face.

I'm not a fan of Alicia, but I do commend how she's handled being picked on.

Katie & Perez have both cried more than once since entering the house - bullies with emotions? My heart bleeds.
Vicky8675309
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“I didn't say that.

But knowing what we know about Perez everything is for show...so his getting close to Alicia could easily be to create more drama and stoke up the flames in her dislike for Katie...which suits his purposes just fine.”

Perez--everything is for the show which is why it is interesting unlike boring Kav and Alexander and some others who do nothing and would need to be manipulated by BB to generate anything interesting for the viewers. Katie is verbally vicious to several people including Alicia so of course Alicia will hang out with people who do not insult her. The mean girls attempt to brainwash their victim into falling in line with their plans to isolate Perez but obviously she is not as thick as they think since she actually things about it and then decides to stick with Perez.

I doubt Perez literally dumps her and most likely he just interacts with some others. If he does dump her in a mean fashion then that would most likely reflect him really wanting to be voted out of the house (who could blame him after the way he has been treated) rather than out of nothing more than malicious intent (like Katie, Michelle, Chloe and Cami horrifying treatment of her)

Alicia doesn't need Perez to justify or stoke up her dislike of Katie. Katie H managed to do that herself----The mean girls (Katie and others) have been horrible to Alicia which is reason enough for her not to like them. Perez doesn't factor into Alicia's dislike of the mean girls except that she sees how mean they are to him…like they were to him.
Captain Kipper
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Perez--everything is for the show which is why it is interesting unlike boring Kav and Alexander and some others who do nothing and would need to be manipulated by BB to generate anything interesting for the viewers. Katie is verbally vicious to several people including Alicia so of course Alicia will hang out with people who do not insult her. The mean girls attempt to brainwash their victim into falling in line with their plans to isolate Perez but obviously she is not as thick as they think since she actually things about it and then decides to stick with Perez.

I doubt Perez literally dumps her and most likely he just interacts with some others. If he does dump her in a mean fashion then that would most likely reflect him really wanting to be voted out of the house (who could blame him after the way he has been treated) rather than out of nothing more than malicious intent (like Katie, Michelle, Chloe and Cami horrifying treatment of her)

Alicia doesn't need Perez to justify or stoke up her dislike of Katie. Katie H managed to do that herself----The mean girls (Katie and others) have been horrible to Alicia which is reason enough for her not to like them. Perez doesn't factor into Alicia's dislike of the mean girls except that she sees how mean they are to him…like they were to him.”

Im sorry, but I don't like diva "everything is for show" kind of HM's...it's fake, and it overshadows everyone else, which is why some of the others come across as boring.

I prefer entertaining but for genuine reasons kinds of HM's...get rid of Perez and other HM's will come out of their shells.

Alicia is a self righteous little madam, she tells others her ideas on how to raise children and doesn't expect any disagreement...and I feel she is playing the victim role of the house.
Captain Kipper
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jay Bigz:
“Alicia doesn't play a 'victim' act. I haven't seen her shed a single tear, or wallow in any kind of self pity. She's actually coming across as quite strong.

Basically she's ****ed up her face and lost a shit load of confidence. It's hard to be super positive when you know people are judging you every time they look at your face.

I'm not a fan of Alicia, but I do commend how she's handled being picked on.

Katie & Perez have both cried more than once since entering the house - bullies with emotions? My heart bleeds.”

Alicia has made a rod for her own back, she comes across as very immature and ignorant...for her to tell others that her idea of bringing up kids is the only way is arrogant to say the least...then gets offended when others disagree with her.
Jay Bigz
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Alicia has made a rod for her own back, she comes across as very immature and ignorant...for her to tell others that her idea of bringing up kids is the only way is arrogant to say the least...then gets offended when others disagree with her.”

She's a health fanatic, so she believes that in her mind, regardless to how bizarre it might seem to others.

Still pretty minor when compared to the ego of others in there - she's coming across as no better or worse than the majority. It's a house full of nutters.
Captain Kipper
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jay Bigz:
“She's a health fanatic, so she believes that in her mind, regardless to how bizarre it might seem to others.

Still pretty minor when compared to the ego of others in there - she's coming across as no better or worse than the majority. It's a house full of nutters.”

For me, her kiss and tell past wrecks any chance of likeability IMO...plus previous shows shes been on haven't made her look very good at all.

Maybe not relevant to this show shes on now perhaps but a leopard doesn't change it's spots.
KatrinaK
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“For me, her kiss and tell past wrecks any chance of likeability IMO...plus previous shows shes been on haven't made her look very good at all.

Maybe not relevant to this show shes on now perhaps but a leopard doesn't change it's spots.”

If we are judging housemates on what they've said in the past, surely Katie Hopkins wins that prize. Alicia isn't perfect but Katie's treatment of her has been nasty and she has done very little to deserve it.
Vicky8675309
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Im sorry, but I don't like diva "everything is for show" kind of HM's...it's fake, and it overshadows everyone else, which is why some of the others come across as boring.

I prefer entertaining but for genuine reasons kinds of HM's...get rid of Perez and other HM's will come out of their shells.

Alicia is a self righteous little madam, she tells others her ideas on how to raise children and doesn't expect any disagreement...and I feel she is playing the victim role of the house.”

I usually can't stand the divas either (Mark was hideous in the non-celeb bb) but Perez doesn't bother me (yet) like Mark did.

I can't stand the verbal attacks and hypocritical behavior by Katie H, Cami and Michelle. They are rude and like to make others feel bad even when unprovoked imo.

Kav and Calum are boring and I can't see them getting interesting unless massive manipulation by BB.

Alicia gets verbally attacked but lately is standing up for herself.

Most of them seem arrogant and often push their views on others. I don't see Alicia as being intentionally hurtful to others (so far). She is ok imo so far but is only interesting because the others are mean to her. hmm…

I don't like Alexander's aggression and his use of the word faggot. Other than that he is boring.

Keith is improving and I am one of the few who likes Nadia so far.

I want Perez to stay to the end and I would be happy (as of now) if Keith or Nadia won but it is too soon to tell. After Helen's win (only because Ashleigh and Christopher split the vote imo), I hope Katie H does not win….but based on some of what I have read here I am concerned another "mean" person will win. I don't buy her crocodile tears.
What name??
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by 64wildcat:
“Or maybe Perez is using her for his own agenda n wouldn't pee on her if she was on fire in the real world.........so who is the real person pr*ck or katie”

Perez because Katie has nominated and bitched about the mean girls as well as everyone else. She's the most blatant user. I haven't seen Perez pretend to be someone's best mate and also back stab them -yet.
KaylaL
18-01-2015
I agree, I haven't seen Perez say anything behind backs at all. But Hopkins did, she said plenty. even before she met the housemates...vile 40 faced bully that she is.
MACTOWIN
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by KaylaL:
“I agree, I haven't seen Perez say anything behind backs at all. But Hopkins did, she said plenty. even before she met the housemates...vile 40 faced bully that she is.”

You did not see the conversations he had with Alicia and Nadia bitching about Katie. Oh well.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“You did not see the conversations he had with Alicia and Nadia bitching about Katie. Oh well.”

But Katie already knows he feels that way. So this here makes no sense.
MACTOWIN
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“But Katie already knows he feels that way. So this here makes no sense.”

I was replying to the poster that says that Perez does not speak behind peoples back imo he does it all the time.
sheila blige
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Well of course, Perez crawls up her backside and they agree about Katie, and Katie is onto Alicia's little victim act...so of course she would rather be with Perez.”

I'd rather spend time with someone who was pleasant to me than someone who constantly calls me stupid and clearly hates the ground that I walk on.

Besides - its a two way street. Has Katie taken the effort to engage in a pleasant chat and spend time with Alicia? I haven't seen it.
fifitrixibelle
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“I'd rather spend time with someone who was pleasant to me than someone who constantly calls me stupid and clearly hates the ground that I walk on.

Besides - its a two way street. Has Katie taken the effort to engage in a pleasant chat and spend time with Alicia? I haven't seen it.”

No she decided instantly that she was 'weak'...........Alicia may be many things but she is astute and spot on in her diary room talks.
It has never been an option for Alicia to prefer one over the other, she didn't make a choice...Hopkins did and along the way she has sucked up to those that would rip her a new one if she dared speak to them in the same way......she was doing it to Price within minutes, stroking her hair etc, all rather nauseating and sad from a grown woman who treats others like shit and demands her crew ostracise another because they upset the 'big man'....the hypocrisy knows no bounds and her sad followers regurgitating her insults and desperately trying to justify just why they have a 'right' to do so are even more pathetic.
He spoke to Alicia, no doubt with selfish motives, she gave him a chance and if she has taken time to reconsider it all and realise it then it is no bad thing imo........that is still 100% better than Hopkins and her crew deciding on spot who she dislikes and brow beating others into sharing her view.
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