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Perez - any psychologists or psychiatrists on here?
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Tess-g
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“I was being flippant obviously. But in all seriousness we do tend to go down the psychoanalysis route a lot in this day and age to explain away behaviour. Sometimes an attention seeking bellend is just an attention seeking bellend.”

I've been around DS for a lot of years but that is my quote of quotes!
jobielad
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“im an armchair psychologist. And in my unprofessional opinion... He's a bellend.”

Oh I just so love this
Ovalteenie
18-01-2015
This reminds me of the early days of this DS:BB forum... we had loads of psychology threads on various housemates during BB3 in 2002...

It's not fair however to single out Perez... I think Katie Hopkins and Cami-Li could do with psychiatric assessments too
MC_Satan
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“I am not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but have a close family member who is a mental health nurse. He says you cannot possibly diagnose a mental disorder by watching someone on telly, needs far more input than that.However his first impression is that Perez knows EXACTLY what he is doing, and looks more manipulating than anything.
However as I said, you can't diagnose on the telly. ”

Not clinically. You can however see traits. For example Steven Goode showed signs of psychopathy, Katie shows signs of Sociopathy. I am a Mental Health nurse. My other half is a Psychiatrist.
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“Yes, but what is making him do it on 'purpose.' The compulsion doesn't just come from thin air. It's defo a personality disorder that goes without saying....Narcissistic sounds likely. But I don't wish to say anymore.
As someone said you can't diagnose from the telly. I just hope he can get help if he wants it.”

Yeah, but let's face it, they are all Narcissistic or they wouldn't be in the house.So you could say that about all celebrities really.
In my amateur opinion, he thinks he makes great telly, is playing up to a role, and found that his role isn't that popular in the house. So now he's taking a hissy fit and wants to go home.
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“I was being flippant obviously. But in all seriousness we do tend to go down the psychoanalysis route a lot in this day and age to explain away behaviour. Sometimes an attention seeking bellend is just an attention seeking bellend.”

He is known for being an exhibitionist isn't he - so I don't really know why everyone is shocked by him, he wants to be unpredictable and shocking .......as he thinks it will make him interesting viewing and make him popular with the British Public. He's even announcing his 'gameplans' as to how he's going to irritate the other HMs. But now he knows that's actually backfired and he's heard the boos from the CBB crowd , he'll present a different 'Perez', he's now going to play the victim of the house, and the tears will flow - he will want to try and get the public to feel sorry for him, a new gameplan will be in the making !
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“This reminds me of the early days of this DS:BB forum... we had loads of psychology threads on various housemates during BB3 in 2002...

It's not fair however to single out Perez... I think Katie Hopkins and Cami-Li could do with psychiatric assessments too ”




Hold your horses! We've only just started!

But seriously though, Katie is on the sociopath spectrum, that's common knowledge. Cami, meh not interested in her. Middling narc, boring. Maybe not even that. Dunno. Ask Mc Satan lol
Geri69
18-01-2015
Also we cannot make assumptions that he has a personality disorder.I know a lot of people who work in Mental health and it's quite a difficult thing to diagnose.
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“Not clinically. You can however see traits. For example Steven Goode showed signs of psychopathy, Katie shows signs of Sociopathy. I am a Mental Health nurse. My other half is a Psychiatrist.”

But that's my point, some people are trying to diagnose.
MC_Satan
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Also we cannot make assumptions that he has a personality disorder.I know a lot of people who work in Mental health and it's quite a difficult thing to diagnose.”

It's really not.
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“But that's my point, some people are trying to diagnose.”

No. Just speculating. And I now will go to bed.
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Also we cannot make assumptions that he has a personality disorder.I know a lot of people who work in Mental health and it's quite a difficult thing to diagnose.”

absolutely -so we can only go by the behaviour we see - anything behind it will remain a mystery. Wouldn't be surprised if he volunteers something of this nature to the HMs at some point.....and the motivation for that, will be in the hope it's shown to the viewers to change what he feels is a perceived opinion they have of him so far , in the hope it will turn in his favour..... We'll see. His view of the house is no longer a playground and pantomime for him right now--- but he has such a short attention span, i'm not sure he will be able to keep up any new 'Perez persona' he may now want to put forward. He's extremely sensitive to criticism, and threatening to leave, is no surprise, his gameplan hasn't worked. But then he'll have another idea how to create drama in the house , and forget what he's done previously that hasn't gone down too well ! He has the attention span of a goldfish.
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“It's really not.”

Ok then. In my amateur opinion, I always considered it an alternative to "actually we haven't a feckin clue what is actually wrong with you so we will just put you into this wee box "
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“No. Just speculating. And I now will go to bed.”

Night night xx
MC_Satan
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Ok then. In my amateur opinion, I always considered it an alternative to "actually we haven't a feckin clue what is actually wrong with you so we will just put you into this wee box " ”

Nope. There are guidelines and everything! Sometimes there is nothing wrong with people other than them having a disordered personality.
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Night night xx”

no still here actually.
cazziekay
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“This reminds me of the early days of this DS:BB forum... we had loads of psychology threads on various housemates during BB3 in 2002...

It's not fair however to single out Perez... I think Katie Hopkins and Cami-Li could do with psychiatric assessments too ”

They even had a show specifically for the analysis of the hms with Davina and her panel of experts
They all have issues but the common denominator is attention seeking and Perez and Katie H are constantly vying for top spot.

Originally Posted by Geri69:
“Yeah, but let's face it, they are all Narcissistic or they wouldn't be in the house.So you could say that about all celebrities really.
In my amateur opinion, he thinks he makes great telly, is playing up to a role, and found that his role isn't that popular in the house. So now he's taking a hissy fit and wants to go home.”

I agree and I also have same opinion on Perez too .. it's just an act.
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“no still here actually. ”

I was being nice, honestly. . I wasn't hoping you were going or anything, it didn't come over like that though
Speckled_Hen
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Its called narcissism.”

I agree, what I see in Perez is an extreme case of narcissistic personality disorder. Steven from the last series was as well, but nothing to the degree of Perez. I also think he is playing it up to a degree, but how much, only he would know. I agree with others who've expressed shock and dismay that he is a father. What a wonderful example he is setting for his young son . . .
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“They even had a show specifically for the analysis of the hms with Davina and her panel of experts
They all have issues but the common denominator is attention seeking and Perez and Katie H are constantly vying for top spot.



I agree and I also have same opinion on Perez too .. it's just an act.”

No such thing imo.
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“I was being nice, honestly. . I wasn't hoping you were going or anything, it didn't come over like that though ”

Haha it's all good.
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“Nope. There are guidelines and everything! Sometimes there is nothing wrong with people other than them having a disordered personality.”

Oh I know, but sometimes it's bizarre. I only said that cos I was talking to my ASD DD last night and she says she is fed up having to fit in to a NT world and wishes people would just fit in with her.So just musing really, on definition of "normal ".
That's probably for another thread though.
cazziekay
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“No such thing imo.”

do you mean Perez is not acting or that acting doesn't exist
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“ do you mean Perez is not acting or that acting doesn't exist ”

I dunno anymore.
But I do know I want some chocolate hob nobs! BRB
Geri69
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“I dunno anymore.
But I do know I want some chocolate hob nobs! BRB”

I have just scranned two packets of crisps. I'm sure Kh will tell me I have to eat less and move more.
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