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Perez - any psychologists or psychiatrists on here?
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cazziekay
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“I dunno anymore.
But I do know I want some chocolate hob nobs! BRB”

don't forget the tea.
An Thropologist
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“ do you mean Perez is not acting or that acting doesn't exist ”

Or does it (acting) only exist if there is an audience to perceive it?

Its 1.45 on a Sunday morning and we could have a metaphysical debate. I am sure Bishop Berkley would have approved.
puppetangel
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Geri69:
“But that's my point, some people are trying to diagnose.”

I don't want to diagnose him, there might be nothing to diagnose... I'm just really interested in reading opinions to explain such human behavior. (Thanks everyone who has posted so far).

Is it really an act to make dramatic television or is this really him? How long can you carry on an antagonising act for and not care everyone hates you? How did he get it so wrong from knowing what the British public wanted and it being the Perez show and becoming Big Brother himself to hearing the chanting of Get Perez out...and how come he's going opposite to normal behavior of trying to apologise and build fences. It's like he is getting off on the anger and infamy? He asked Katie Hopkins on the first night what her children thought of her being the most hated woman in Britain...yet the things he is doing his kids will be able to watch for forever on youtube..he's already got the paycheck....what is happening here? Can he really pull off being hated by the majority and still continue to live in the house till the final....maybe they should pull it off so he keeps getting immunity to test it out. Why is he such a cry baby lol He is sulking now which makes me think its not an act at all, but why does he want them to hate him...that fake coughing fit to wake them up makes no sense....it's like he thinks he is the director of Big Brother and its his duty to set things up but he's talking us through it too at the same time.

I can't stand his amateur dramatics and would not give him any time in real life for his attention seeking, but he makes really interesting tv...I just felt that tonight it had gone from amusing attention seeking in the first few days to unhinged and that other housemates might end up doing more than use offensive language.
Panda Eyes
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist but did run a Secure Mental Health Unit many, many years ago. People with a diagnosis of Psychopathy did show some of the behavioural traits Perez is showing (I am not saying he is a Psychopath or anything - not qualified to diagnose) i.e. attention seeking, acting out, instant gratification/reaction, inability to delay needs etc. The thing is Perez has insight and knows exactly what he is doing. The YouTube clip taken from live feed shows him saying he is going to start coughing and wake the housemates up. It's a deliberate act. He doesn't care about the housemates in that sense, has very little empathy with them and doesn't care about the consequences of his actions. Also his blogging too is very attention seeking - some of his blogs show that he doesn't care what effects his pronouncements will have on the lives of others e.g. outing people etc Hence he seems very shallow in nature. When I ran the unit just one person with Psychopathy could set the rest of the patients against each other and cause havoc if whichever person in charge didn't know how to manage it. He is causing havoc too. Perez knows what he is doing and doesn't care who gets hurt in the process e.g. Ken, Jeremy, Alex (all their careers can be harmed by his actions) He makes up his own rules and lives by them and doesn't seem to have much empathy with the group and others. Interesting but he reminds me of some of my best Psychopaths who are great at playing games and the game is always to win.

I wouldn't think he is psychotic - he doesn't show any evidence of hearing voices, seeing visions etc and he isn't totally out of touch with reality at all. He doesn't seem delusional to me either. He really did believe he was giving the public what they wanted till the boos on eviction night but he is aware enough to now know he is disliked. If he were deluded he would still believe the British Public loved him no matter what (Delusion meaning a false, fixed unshift able belief)

This is just my opinion and some of my observations. I am not a doctor and therefore not qualified to offer a medical opinion. AND as someone else has already said much more assessment is needed to make a proper diagnosis. My consultant used to ask one question when we took new patients, is the person mad or not mad and we knew what she meant i.e. psychotic or not psychotic. I would hazard a strong guess that Perez is not mad. He does however have fascinating behaviour!!! ”


Thank you for that. Found it very informative and loved reading it
cazziekay
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Or does it (acting) only exist if there is an audience to perceive it?

Its 1.45 on a Sunday morning and we could have a metaphysical debate. I am sure Bishop Berkley would have approved. ”

Ha ha had to look the Bishop up (oo does that sound right ) but as he was born in Kilkenny and questions a chair really being called a chair .. well then he is indeed worth the google
An Thropologist
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“Ha ha had to look the Bishop up (oo does that sound right ) but as he was born in Kilkenny and questions a chair really being called a chair .. well then he is indeed worth the google ”



Alas I have no perceptions of Kilkenny. I don't even know exactly where it is but would hazard a guess West coast ( but even if right I am none the wiser)

But.. 'Looking up the Bishop' sounds like a euphemism for something rude.
cazziekay
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Alas I have no perceptions of Kilkenny. I don't even know exactly where it is but would hazard a guess West coast ( but even if right I am none the wiser)

But.. 'Looking up the Bishop' sounds like a euphemism for something rude. ”

what is it about the Bishop that brings such thing to mind

As for Kilkenny as memory serves it was a nice friendly place and I have family there too. I think it's South East.
Time for some zzz's me thinks. Night
Gnomsie
18-01-2015
I have a psych degree, but I'm by no means a professional (yet. Hopefully). But I'm pretty sure he's just a tosser.

Some people are just highly strung cocks. The big brother house isn't real life, and you can see him playing up to the cameras. He is very, very aware of what he is doing. Of course we only get the highlights. We only see the playing up. And we only see him in there.
There's no denying he's a narcissistic attention seeker, but 'normal' people can be pricks too.
I'd be interested to see how he behaves when the world isn't watching.
An Thropologist
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Gnomsie:
“I have a psych degree, but I'm by no means a professional (yet. Hopefully). But I'm pretty sure he's just a tosser.

Some people are just highly strung cocks. The big brother house isn't real life, and you can see him playing up to the cameras. He is very, very aware of what he is doing. Of course we only get the highlights. We only see the playing up. And we only see him in there.
There's no denying he's a narcissistic attention seeker, but 'normal' people can be pricks too.
I'd be interested to see how he behaves when the world isn't watching.”

I see you have got the technical terms down well. Wonderful thing education isn't it.
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Gnomsie:
“I have a psych degree, but I'm by no means a professional (yet. Hopefully). But I'm pretty sure he's just a tosser.

Some people are just highly strung cocks. The big brother house isn't real life, and you can see him playing up to the cameras. He is very, very aware of what he is doing. Of course we only get the highlights. We only see the playing up. And we only see him in there.
There's no denying he's a narcissistic attention seeker, but 'normal' people can be pricks too.
I'd be interested to see how he behaves when the world isn't watching.”

aah the colourful language approach, .............you'll go far
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I see you have got the technical terms down well. Wonderful thing education isn't it. ”

Originally Posted by sandy50:
“aah the colourful language approach, .............you'll go far
”

Gnomsie
18-01-2015
Whups. It's nearly 3am, and I spent my night in a pub (although sober. Designated driver cokes for me!). I'm struggling with the colourful pub language to Internet forum transition.

Please excuse my atrocious gob!
RedOrDead36
18-01-2015
Having just found out Perez is hispanic, I think we can close this thread as all now is explained.
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Gnomsie:
“Whups. It's nearly 3am, and I spent my night in a pub (although sober. Designated driver cokes for me!). I'm struggling with the colourful pub language to Internet forum transition.

Please excuse my atrocious gob!”

Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by RedOrDead36:
“Having just found out Perez is hispanic, I think we can close this thread as all now is explained.”

where's Nadia when we need her.


An Thropologist
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Gnomsie:
“Whups. It's nearly 3am, and I spent my night in a pub (although sober. Designated driver cokes for me!). I'm struggling with the colourful pub language to Internet forum transition.

Please excuse my atrocious gob!”

I loved it. I had an image of you during freshers week considering your course options and considering the timetable, wondering whether you could fit Year 2 Tosser in with Pricks - Principles and Processes and wishing it didn't clash with Introduction to highly strung cocks.
Gnomsie
18-01-2015
I'd have definitely combined them, highly strung prick tossing! I also have a biology minor, that certainly would have livened up lab.

My freshers week consisted of dropping the C bomb in the middle of a silent lecture hall, realising I'm probably going to have to spend the next 3 years with duct tape over my mouth, and drinking away my shame. You weren't far off
09beyoncefan
18-01-2015
I am a psychology student, his behaviour does ring alarm bells.... I agree with the Shahbaz comparison, didn't think of it before but that's nail meet head really.
pompeybird
18-01-2015
I have been saying for a few days now to the other half that he is / has lost it.
Its almost as if he is bordering psychotic ...... Wanting air time or not his actions are NOT that of a "normal" person.
Its like he is having some sort of mental breakdown ...... I did find him hilarious in a warped way but i now find him quite uncomfortable to watch. The whole window thing actually made me feel quite sick ...... That is not the actions of a "normal" person.
There is almost something quite twisted and dark about him and the way he is coming across.
yorkiegal
18-01-2015
Put someone into a situation where they don't have control and their symptoms of pd can be a lot worse. I have borderline pd and was a nightmare patient on the secure ward but a lot less symptomanic when back home on my own turf.

Perez has become worse and worse as people have failed to react in the way he expected.
Purple.
18-01-2015
I'm a psychotherapist, if that helps.

Personally, if he has any mental health issue, I would guess something like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. But he may well just be a ****.
quirkyquirk
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I think he's showing a lot of signs of bipolar. I honestly don't think he'd have gotten through the psych tests of the C4 era but, as I said in another thread, C5 would put Norman Bates in CBB without worrying about his sanity”

Shabaz got through the psych tests in the C4 era. I have no idea how.
white tigress
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Chit_Chat15:
“where's Nadia when we need her.


”

She's probably dealing with her personal mouse infestation.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2015
Someone tell me what Michelle, Cami and Katie H's problems are then because they are pure evil, nasty, spiteful people.
EuroFoxi
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“Someone tell me what Michelle, Cami and Katie H's problems are then because they are pure evil, nasty, spiteful people.”

Nice to have your opinion.
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